HAMMER BENCHMARKS 800MHz!!!!! 256K L2 Cache vs Athlon MP 800!!!!

[Athlon4all]

here!!!! It's in German, and Bablefish is doing pretty decent with it!!! Theres only a few (Q3A, and their own custom SSE and regular memory benchmark). Any validity to these do ya think??? I'm inclined to think yes. In Q3A, CH is about 30% faster than an equivalent Athlon MP.

Edit: The version that I linked to is now English

 

[Adul]

 

[Adul]

translated

 

[Athlon4all]

Link don't work for the translation Adul, but for those looking for babel fish, you can get it here.

 

[Adul]

stange...

 

[Adul]

the bus is 6.4 GB

 

[acejj26]

benchmarking alpha silicon is pretty much ridiculous right now, though a few things i did like:

the clawhammer supports SSE2
800 MHz clawhammer currently does Q3 as fast as a 1600 MHz Willamette

there will be doubtless tweaks of the core, plus they're gonna ramp it up, plus they're running it on a beta-at-best chipset with raw chipset drivers. i'm encouraged by the two things i mentioned above, but also, showing such benchmarks right now doesn't say a whole lot about the future state of hammer

 

[Adul]

it shows it has promise.

 

[joohang]

I drool at the thought of a dual 2 GHz ClawHammer.

 

[Athlon4all]

the bus is 6.4 GB

Yea. but the best thing about the entire Hammer architechure is that there's no fsb to limit the memory bus, so as a result, no more KT333+DDR333 that doesn't benefit performance.

benchmarking alpha silicon is pretty much ridiculous right now, though a few things i did like:

the clawhammer supports SSE2
800 MHz clawhammer currently does Q3 as fast as a 1600 MHz Willamette

Not only that, but lkeep in mind that this is indeed Alpha silicon and alpha CHipset and yet, it's 30% faster than an equivalent Athlon XP (it doens't even have 512k L2 Cache) and thus it will only get better. Lets hope that AMD mature's the .13 micron SOI process

 

[Nocturnal]

can anyone tell me the differences?

so clawhammer is the next athlon to come out? and what is thorobred or whatever.

 

[joohang]

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
can anyone tell me the differences?

so clawhammer is the next athlon to come out? and what is thorobred or whatever.

Thoroughbred will be a .13µ revision of the K7 Palomino core. ClawHammer is just.. Hammer.

 

[Booster]

Why would you want to use babelfish when you can just click english version?

 

[Athlon4all]

so clawhammer is the next athlon to come out? and what is thorobred or whatever.

Clawhammer is the next generation CPU core from AMD. To sum up, it features a slightly longer pipeline, an integrated memory controller and thus memory accesses are much quciker. Thats the main points. I'd suggest reading Anand's artcile on the Hammer architechure. Hammer is supposed to be 25% faster than an equivalently clocked Athlon XP. Hope this helps

 

[Smoke]

OK, somebody tell me how fast this will do a SETI Work Unit?

 

[SexyK]

Looks pretty good, but I have a sneaking suspicion none of us will have a shot at one of these chips until the middle of 2003, by which time Intel probably will have Prestonia with Hyperthreading and 667MHz FSB at 4GHz. Of course that's pure speculation, but we should have had Thouroubred about 3 months ago, so I'm willing to bet AMD is having serious fab problems.

Kramer

 

[Booster]

Originally posted by: SexyK
Looks pretty good, but I have a sneaking suspicion none of us will have a shot at one of these chips until the middle of 2003, by which time Intel probably will have Prestonia with Hyperthreading and 667MHz FSB at 4GHz. Of course that's pure speculation, but we should have had Thouroubred about 3 months ago, so I'm willing to bet AMD is having serious fab problems.

Kramer

Yeah, Hammer is much like the Doom III - everybody knows that it exists, that it works just fine and that it will not be released for another 6 months or a year. I think I read Doom III is scheduled for release at the end of 2003 (!!! OMG!!!), but they're already showing it, just like the Hammer.

 

[Pabster]

Good lord, ClawHammer @ a measly 800MHz (with DDR at conservative timings) comes within 1fps of P4 Willamette at 1.6GHz with PC800 RDRAM? My, I need to start a Hammer fund

 

[joohang]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Good lord, ClawHammer @ a measly 800MHz (with DDR at conservative timings) comes within 1fps of P4 Willamette at 1.6GHz with PC800 RDRAM? My, I need to start a Hammer fund

Your dual Palomino with Cheetah ain't good enough, Pabster?

Get a Hammer VIA chipset for your next system.

 

[Athlon4all]

Originally posted by: SexyK
Looks pretty good, but I have a sneaking suspicion none of us will have a shot at one of these chips until the middle of 2003, by which time Intel probably will have Prestonia with Hyperthreading and 667MHz FSB at 4GHz. Of course that's pure speculation, but we should have had Thouroubred about 3 months ago, so I'm willing to bet AMD is having serious fab problems.

Kramer

I see your point, and I agree that I am definately concerned but I think that a good sign is that TBred will be finally being launched on Monday, and not just at 2200+ but at 2GHz (2500+) and that is definately good to see considering. So, we shall see if AMD can deliver.

 

[formulav8]

According to AMDZone.com there is no 2500+ cpu this month.

Originally posted by: Athlon4all

Originally posted by: SexyK
Looks pretty good, but I have a sneaking suspicion none of us will have a shot at one of these chips until the middle of 2003, by which time Intel probably will have Prestonia with Hyperthreading and 667MHz FSB at 4GHz. Of course that's pure speculation, but we should have had Thouroubred about 3 months ago, so I'm willing to bet AMD is having serious fab problems.

Kramer

I see your point, and I agree that I am definately concerned but I think that a good sign is that TBred will be finally being launched on Monday, and not just at 2200+ but at 2GHz (2500+) and that is definately good to see considering. So, we shall see if AMD can deliver.

 

[Shazam]

Hot damn, I'm drooling!!!

 

[SteelCityFan]

Underclock the P4 willy to the same Mhz as the Hammer. We all knew clock for clock what the results would be.

 

[XMan]

Originally posted by: Athlon4all

Originally posted by: SexyK
Looks pretty good, but I have a sneaking suspicion none of us will have a shot at one of these chips until the middle of 2003, by which time Intel probably will have Prestonia with Hyperthreading and 667MHz FSB at 4GHz. Of course that's pure speculation, but we should have had Thouroubred about 3 months ago, so I'm willing to bet AMD is having serious fab problems.

Kramer

I see your point, and I agree that I am definately concerned but I think that a good sign is that TBred will be finally being launched on Monday, and not just at 2200+ but at 2GHz (2500+) and that is definately good to see considering. So, we shall see if AMD can deliver.

It's not right to tease like that . . . is that really gonna come down on Monday?

 

[Baldy18]

Originally posted by: Smokeball
OK, somebody tell me how fast this will do a SETI Work Unit?

I'd say that with the integrated memory controller it will blow everything else out of the water at SETI. Latencies should be cut in half and you know how SETI uses memory bandwidth and hates latencies. If the make a 64-bit version of the client specifically for the Hammer then look out, time will really dip and WUS will fly!!!!! This thing will be far and away the best at SETI more than any other application.