Hamas reiterate it doesnt want peace with israel.

[Lemon law]

Let me take a few JOS quotes, " No, Arafat was a twat that stole from the population to enrich his family and knew very well that IF there had been a serious peace treaty he would have been toast because it would have been known then." What JOS fails to mention is that Arifat monetary corruption basically started after Israel granted him the booby prize of Palestinian leadership after the camp David talks collapsed. And JOS forgets that the previous Israeli PM, Olmert, and a pile of other Israeli leaders lost their jobs for the same corruption and theft.

Then JOS says something something siome what dubious, "I'll excuse your little quip about Afghanistan since every member here that has ever been in Afghanistan or knows anything about it agrees with me on the matter." But never considers the basic fact that turds of the feather small minds think alike. Because the proof of the pudding is results, and when conventional stinking thinking, results in the unmistakable Nato results of grasping defeat out of the jaws of victory. At least I have articulated what we need to change to start winning, we have not done it and Nato is still losing. DUH. But at least Gen. Petraues is smart enough to totally reject your JOS stinking Thinking. But still too little too late. Not even enough to dig ourselves out of the hole idiots like you put us into in 2002.

 

[bfdd]

Did LL just blame Israel for Arifat's actions? LL you do know what "personal responsibility" is right?

 

[EagleKeeper]

Israel made him do it.

They forced him to siphon off all the aid money into his personal banking system.

The logic is that is Israel had given Arafat everything then Arafat would be in control, Israel would be chicken feed. Then Arafat could legally steal the money with the world blessing as leader of his government.

Araft was reduced to being a tin hat wanna be dictator by Israel instead; he had to steal from the very people that the world was trying to help and he professed to love and care for.

 

[JEDIYoda]

As stated earlier....the Palestinians are their own worse enemas....

 

[Lemon law]

Did LL just blame Israel for Arifat's actions? LL you do know what "personal responsibility" is right?

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Don't be an idiot bfdd, I merely pointed out that many Israeli leaders were the exact moral equivalent of Arifat or worse, the question of causality is a far far deeper question that stretches far further back in history.

But we can maybe say, if wiser heads had ruled the day in the mid-east immediately post 1948, and one wrong was not used to justify another wrong, we would not be in the fine mess we are today in the mid-east.

And now its far harder to repair the damage than it would have been in 1948.

But if anything, The collective myth of pro Israeli fan clubbers is that Israel will totally escape their fair share of the blame.

 

[bfdd]

LL, every time someone brings up some shitty shit the Palestinians did to fuck over peace talks you go "BUT ISRAEL!!!!!!" is that all you have? You say and I quote "What JOS fails to mention is that Arifat monetary corruption basically started after Israel granted him the booby prize of Palestinian leadership after the camp David talks collapsed. And JOS forgets that the previous Israeli PM, Olmert, and a pile of other Israeli leaders lost their jobs for the same corruption and theft. " You are saying "well Arifat had accomplices who were Israeli so it's not all his fault." Yeah they MADE him do that shit. I can understand bringing the subject up as it adds to the discussion of that specific topic, but the way you present it is laughable.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

It's LemonLaw, he's the invention of insanity on the internet, if there is a right he springs into action declaring it to be wrong, if there is a wrong, he springs into action declaring it right.

He's the opposing side superman who loves terrorists and hates Jews, NATO and especially USAF for some reason.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

"I'll excuse your little quip about Afghanistan since every member here that has ever been in Afghanistan or knows anything about it agrees with me on the matter." But never considers the basic fact that turds of the feather small minds think alike. Because the proof of the pudding is results, and when conventional stinking thinking, results in the unmistakable Nato results of grasping defeat out of the jaws of victory. At least I have articulated what we need to change to start winning, we have not done it and Nato is still losing. DUH. But at least Gen. Petraues is smart enough to totally reject your JOS stinking Thinking. But still too little too late. Not even enough to dig ourselves out of the hole idiots like you put us into in 2002.

Son, anyone in the know will tell you that it's not getting better since General Petreus took over, it's gotten worse and everyone can tell you why too, they will all say the exact same thing i have told you.

If not for Iraq, the WOT would have ended before 2004, there would be a rebuilding mission that would last for a long time, with opportunities for both locals and foreign companies to get in on it, but no...

You can take what you think you know, shove it up your arse and it'll come out as the shit it went in as.

You are a retarded little fucker who doesn't know shit about anything but can't keep his fucking mouth shut on anything, you always need to have your fucking say and opinion no matter how retarded and so far from the truth it is that i'm starting to think that there is something seriously wrong with your brain.

You cannot just make up your own truth to justify your opinions, well you can but that is just bloody daft.

 

[Lemon law]

Simply more JOS excuses, find some cause, any other cause, to blame the failures of Nato on.

But I must say, the blame it on the Iraq quagmire is somewhat a new one. And here silly me, I thought it was blame it on Pakistan. Or maybe Iran was the standard off the shelf excuse.

 

[EagleKeeper]

It's LemonLaw, he's the invention of insanity on the internet, if there is a right he springs into action declaring it to be wrong, if there is a wrong, he springs into action declaring it right.

He's the opposing side superman who loves terrorists and hates Jews, NATO and especially USAF for some reason.

I think he is more of the other stripe of turn the other cheek and extend your arms to the enemy in friendship, no matter the reason.