Hamas: Israel assassinated operative in Dubai

[JEDIYoda]

Consider me shocked and appalled and distraught that Israel would go after enemies of the state....I am just amazed that the Israeli`s have nothing better to do than search out and kill enemies of the state...hmmmmm.....rofl...j/k



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100129...jA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yaWVzBHNsawNoYW1hc2lzcmFlbGE-

By ALBERT AJI, Associated Press Writer Albert Aji, Associated Press Writer – 8 mins ago

DAMASCUS, Syria – Hamas claimed on Friday that Israeli agents assassinated one of the Palestinian militant group's veteran operatives in a killing allegedly carried out last week in the Gulf city of Dubai, and vowed to retaliate.

The group blamed Israel for the slaying of Mahmoud al-Mabhouh but offered no evidence of foul play or Israeli involvement in the man's death. Israel's government had no immediate comment.--- wow--I am shocked!!

Izzat Rashaq, a top member of Hamas' exiled leadership in Damascus, told The Associated Press that details have not been released to avoid compromising an ongoing investigation, and that Hamas' delayed announcement was linked to an attempt to "reach the Israeli agents who implemented this operation."

Al-Mabhouh lived in Syria and was passing through Dubai when he was killed late Jan. 19 or early Jan. 20, Rashaq said. Originally from the Gaza Strip, al-Mabhouh was married and had four children, he said.--- awwwwwww

"We in Hamas hold the Zionist enemy responsible for the criminal assassination of our brother, and we pledge to God and to the blood of the martyrs and to our people to continue his path of jihad and martyrdom," read the statement on Hamas' Palestinian Information Center Web site. The group pledged to "retaliate for this Zionist crime at the appropriate time and place."-- and people wonder what the hell is wrong with the palestinians..

Al-Mabhouh will be buried Friday at the Palestinian refugee camp of Yarmouk, near Damascus, the statement said.

The Hamas statement identified al-Mabhouh as one of the founders of Hamas' military organization, which has been responsible for hundreds of deadly attacks and suicide bombings targeting Israelis since the 1980s. He was 50 years old.--- Now i am truly shocked and amazed that hamas would be so blatantly open...

It said al-Mabhouh was involved in the kidnapping and killing of two Israeli soldiers in 1989 and that he was still playing a "continuous role in supporting his brothers in the resistance inside the occupied homeland" at the time of his death.

He was born in the Gaza Strip.

In Dubai, officials could not be immediately reached for comment.

Hamas rules the Gaza strip, but has leaders and operatives based in Damascus, Syria and elsewhere. The group's members abroad have been targeted in the past. The leader of the group's Damascus-based politburo, Khaled Mashaal, survived an Israeli assassination attempt in Amman, Jordan, in 1997. Last month, two Hamas men were killed in a mysterious late-night blast in Beirut. Hamas said at the time that Israel was an obvious suspect but stopped short of openly accusing Israel of the killings.

Israel is suspected of being behind the assassination of a senior military commander from the Lebanese guerrilla group Hezbollah in Damascus in 2008. The Mossad, Israel's intelligence arm abroad, never openly discusses its operations and Israel's government typically does not comment on incidents in which the Mossad's involvement is suspected.

 

[Noobtastic]

I sincerely doubt this was a Mossad op.

Mostly like just another case of Hamas gangsters turning on each other. It's taken 6 days for Hamas to blame Israel and announce the "assassination."

Why the delay?

 

[Craig234]

Jedi. you are better on other issues, but on Israel you come across like an inhuman monster.

Zero consicence about any wrong by Israel does no matter how bad, even if this were a 'justifiable act' you add a sarcastic 'awwwww' regarding his wife and four children.

That's just the sort of insanity behind the mindset of the persecutors of Jews in the past.

Real Jews, more moral, don't sound like you, but more like Golda Meier saying Jews can forgive their enemies killing Jewish children, what she can't forgive is their making Israel kill their children.

Now that may be propaganda, I don't know her history well enough to say, but it shows a moral sense far from your cackling bloodlust.

You are an example of how Israel can turn from a moral leader to the new perpetrator with an ideology of just atrocity, excusing the ongoing persecution of millions.

It's a little like how Israel's Supreme Court carved out a tiny situation where its forces could use excessive violence on detainees, similar to the 'ticking bomb' fallacy, and saw it become commonplace.

 

[StageLeft]

you are better on other issues, but on Israel you come across like an inhuman monster.

I guess you didn't see him in the thread about the 13 year old girl sentenced to 90 lashings.

 

[dphantom]

Jedi. you are better on other issues, but on Israel you come across like an inhuman monster.

Zero consicence about any wrong by Israel does no matter how bad, even if this were a 'justifiable act' you add a sarcastic 'awwwww' regarding his wife and four children.

That's just the sort of insanity behind the mindset of the persecutors of Jews in the past.

Real Jews, more moral, don't sound like you, but more like Golda Meier saying Jews can forgive their enemies killing Jewish children, what she can't forgive is their making Israel kill their children.

Now that may be propaganda, I don't know her history well enough to say, but it shows a moral sense far from your cackling bloodlust.

You are an example of how Israel can turn from a moral leader to the new perpetrator with an ideology of just atrocity, excusing the ongoing persecution of millions.

It's a little like how Israel's Supreme Court carved out a tiny situation where its forces could use excessive violence on detainees, similar to the 'ticking bomb' fallacy, and saw it become commonplace.

Be careful what snippets you pick out. Golda Meir was a great Prime Minister but her first and primary concern was the establishment and maintenance of the State of Israel.

Quote from Wikipedia with original source:

"In January 1948, the treasurer of the Jewish Agency was convinced that Israel would not be able to raise more than $7–8 million from the American Jewish community.[4] Meir traveled to the United States and managed to raise $50 million, which was used to purchase arms in Europe for the nascent state.[4] Ben-Gurion wrote that Meir’s role as the "Jewish woman who got the money which made the state possible," would go down one day in the history books.[4]" (Mother of a nation, but not much of a mother Haaretz, 7 July 2008)

 

[Lemon law]

In my mind, its somewhat irresponsible to accuse Mossad without any evidence. Even though they have to be high on the list of suspects.

But if Mossad is willing to use assassination on foreign soil as a routine tool, any organization, no matter how competent, will sooner or later screw up, and Israel will end up paying a very big public relations price. With the rape of Lebanon and Gaza fresh on minds and the associated war crimes accusations still pending, the Pollard case also lingering, about all Israel has going for it is a pro Israeli US press that too much Israeli monkey business risks.

Nor do we know what the authorities in Dubai have found but is not releasing, if nothing else they can examine the passenger manifests of those coming in and out of the country, and connect dots from there. And the next time any who hit the suspect list want to play have gun will travel, they may find themselves under surveillance every inch of the way. And if they even think about spitting on the sidewalk, they are then subject to arrest and search.

 

[JEDIYoda]

In my mind, its somewhat irresponsible to accuse Mossad without any evidence. Even though they have to be high on the list of suspects.

But if Mossad is willing to use assassination on foreign soil as a routine tool, any organization, no matter how competent, will sooner or later screw up, and Israel will end up paying a very big public relations price. -- do ya think Israel actually cares??? You win the free ipod if you stated--NO!!With the rape of Lebanon and Gaza fresh on minds and the associated war crimes accusations still pending, the Pollard case also lingering, about all Israel has going for it is a pro Israeli US press that too much Israeli monkey business risks.

Nor do we know what the authorities in Dubai have found but is not releasing, if nothing else they can examine the passenger manifests of those coming in and out of the country, and connect dots from there. And the next time any who hit the suspect list want to play have gun will travel, they may find themselves under surveillance every inch of the way. And if they even think about spitting on the sidewalk, they are then subject to arrest and search.

 

[Noobtastic]

With the rape of Lebanon and Gaza fresh on minds and the associated war crimes accusations still pending, the Pollard case also lingering, about all Israel has going for it is a pro Israeli US press that too much Israeli monkey business risks.

LOLZ.

You think Israel values the opinions of the world over the lives of its citizens?

they aren't the Palestinian Authority....

 

[StageLeft]

Israel will end up paying a very big public relations price.

Yep some countries might even want them gone

 

[Sclamoz]

Gaza- Ma'an – Hamas' armed wings the Al-Qassam Brigades announced the death of its co-founder in exile Mahmoud Al-Mabhuh died of terminal cancer in a hospital in the UAE on Wednesday.

The Al-Qassam leader, a refugee living the Jabalia Refugee Camp until he left Gaza for the UAE, was behind a mission that successfully captured two Israeli soldiers, a statement from the brigades said.

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=255640

This is what they are reporting to the Palestinians

 

[werepossum]

I sincerely doubt this was a Mossad op.

Mostly like just another case of Hamas gangsters turning on each other. It's taken 6 days for Hamas to blame Israel and announce the "assassination."

Why the delay?

Word processors are complicated, dude, not simple like suicide bombs and rocks. Press releases don't just write themselves.

I'm torn between automatically disbelieving anything Hamas says and hoping Mossad did knock off one of them.

 

[woolfe9999]

I'm torn between automatically disbelieving anything Hamas says and hoping Mossad did knock off one of them.

This.

- wolf

 

[Noobtastic]

Word processors are complicated, dude, not simple like suicide bombs and rocks. Press releases don't just write themselves.

I'm torn between automatically disbelieving anything Hamas says and hoping Mossad did knock off one of them.

actually, now that i've thought about it im most certain this was a mossad op.

hamas didn't tell the press because it was trying to capture the agent.

hamas, and most palestinian groups are very familiar with internet technologies and exploit them for propaganda purposes.

 

[Jaskalas]

I only lament that there is still a Hamas member left alive to complain.

 

[Dari]

I remember walking on 48th and 2nd Ave. a couple of years ago. This guy was hit by a truck then, suddenly, another truck came to pick up his body(parts) and blood on the street. It was all done in less than 23 seconds. Very professional.

 

[Moonbeam]

Did you happen to notice how many milliseconds past 23 it was?

 

[SamurAchzar]

In my mind, its somewhat irresponsible to accuse Mossad without any evidence. Even though they have to be high on the list of suspects.

Most likely that's Mossad work, similar to the attempted assassination of Haled Mashal in Jordan back in 1997.

But if Mossad is willing to use assassination on foreign soil as a routine tool, any organization, no matter how competent, will sooner or later screw up, and Israel will end up paying a very big public relations price.

Israel has routinely been using this practice for handling terrorist organizations, assassinating their senior operatives. Remember what happened after Munich massacre? The current Mossad chief is more active, in this regard, than his predecessor, and the results are showing (especially getting Imad Mughniya, long sought dead by both US and Israel).

Nor do we know what the authorities in Dubai have found but is not releasing, if nothing else they can examine the passenger manifests of those coming in and out of the country, and connect dots from there. And the next time any who hit the suspect list want to play have gun will travel, they may find themselves under surveillance every inch of the way. And if they even think about spitting on the sidewalk, they are then subject to arrest and search.

He was poisoned, not shot. And Israel has already done assassinations in much more advanced countries than Dubai and got away with it, I don't think they'll have issues this time.

 

[palehorse]

Great news! :ninja:

 

[brandonb]

Great job Israel, keep up the good work. Maybe in a few more years, you'll finally be able to convince the masses that in the end, you are really no better than the enemy you are fighting. But then again, you'll probably be so busy pumping out Adam Sandler and Sasha Cohen movies that nobody will notice.

At any rate, carry on.

 

[Lemon law]

Shot or poisoned, does it really matter, if we caught someone with anthrax, if anything the outrage would be greater.

Nor do most seem to understand the electoral appeal of Hamas, they may have a small military wing, but their social wing that aids the Palestinian people is ever so much larger.

And as the military wings of Hamas and Fatah battle each other, even Fatah realizes that a reunification is inevitable as Fatah lie down and plays dead in the West Bank is slowly allowing Israel to keep expanding, expanding, and expanding while Fatah does nothing.

 

[SamurAchzar]

Great job Israel, keep up the good work. Maybe in a few more years, you'll finally be able to convince the masses

I really doubt the Mossad trying to convince anyone of anything :biggrin: When the terrorist leaders are all hiding in fear, and get hit even in heart of Arab territory, you know you're doing something right.

 

[SamurAchzar]

And as the military wings of Hamas and Fatah battle each other, even Fatah realizes that a reunification is inevitable as Fatah lie down and plays dead in the West Bank is slowly allowing Israel to keep expanding, expanding, and expanding while Fatah does nothing.

So what do you suggest will Fatah do? Start another Intifada? Embrace Hamas? Are you looking for another 1300 dead Palestinians? Go on, lay out the plan.

 

[Lemon law]

Don't be an idiot sammy, when Israel will not even do anything but play Fatah for suckers, its not rocket science to predict that Hamas and other groups will replace Fatah.

 

[SamurAchzar]

Don't be an idiot sammy, when Israel will not even do anything but play fatah for suckers, its not rocket science to predict that Hamas and other groups will not replace Fatah.

So that's the fault of Israel as well? Where's the one great Palestinian who'll bring them to the negotiation table? I find it amusing they are snubbing Israel with unrealistic prerequisites when they are on the receiving end.

 

[Noobtastic]

Don't be an idiot sammy, when Israel will not even do anything but play Fatah for suckers, its not rocket science to predict that Hamas and other groups will replace Fatah.

the only thing that's preventing hamas from destroying the west bank and removing the "moderate" fatah (lol!) is israel.

israel isn't playing anyone for suckers. fatah is a greedy, corrupt, and most notorious terrorist organization on the planet.

al qaeda is green peace when actually enumerating body count.

israel doesn't mind so much as long as their is stability. and fatah will continue to play the victim and try to make this conflict more international to get more money and donations.

as long as hamas is isolated everything will be beloved patriot dory.

the biggest problem right now is iran and lebanon.

once that sets off you can pretty much guarantee the israeli-palestinian conflict will end for good.