Halflife or Return to Castle wolfenstein? Which is better? =D Also post about any other good action FPS games you like

yata

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I haven't played RtCW but Half-life's a game that I finished. Well... my friend played half of the game on my comp. I like the physics in Half-life. You should try Heavy Metal FAKK2 too. Awesome graphics
 

Sleater

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They're both great games. Play both of them. Which is better? half-life is 3 years old, in it's day it was the best. By todays standards RTCW is better. But again, they're both great. Other good FPS:

Serious Sam -- crazy balls-out action from start to finish
Deus Ex -- much more subtle, story driven, RPG/Action hybrid

Heavy Metal FAKK2 does, as the previous poster mentioned, have awesome graphics. But it's not a FPS. It's a 3rd person action game.
 

Keego

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After playing both (again) recently, my vote still goes to HL because of the storyline. True, RTCW had a great story and VERY nice scenes (outdoors, airfield, etc) I liked HL's story (tunnels, water, etc) more. It's all someone's opinion, you'll have to try both to find out :D
 

FredLocks

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Tough one, but half life is still my undisputed king. I'm halfway through RTCW and love it. You won't go wrong with either. Also try:

Thief Dark project or Metal age - oustanding FPS/Sneaker games Play it on hard and you must complete missions with no kills, you can knock people out
Deus EX - Had some RPG qualities as well as being a classic FPS
Undying - Very good game with weapons/spells and scary too
No one Lives Forever- Excellent story line, humor, good graphics
Hitman Codename 47 - No saves in this game play missions till you complete objectives, very challenging

 

Saltin

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RtCW is an excellent FPS, and the multiplayer is absolutley remarkable. That said, Half-life holds a special place in my heart (and many other's as well I am sure). It will certainly be remembered as one of the all time greats.
 

BFG10K

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RTCW owns Halflife in terms terms of plot. I never thought Halflife was that good anway.

And obviously RTCW has better technology too but it makes little sense to compare the games in that way.
 

Whitecloak

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i prefer rtcw to halflife.
my favorite fps is system shock 2. it owns all other fps out there!
 

CrowDog

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Well...we are comparing RTCW to a game that came out 3 years ago...I think that says enough. 3 years from now people will say " whats RTCW?". HL is the greatest FPS of all time with more more replay value than anygame EVER!.....RTCW dosent even come close! I have RTCW(lookin at it right now) and Im already burnt out on it. RTCW is very good game...but alot of games are "very good"...very few games are the GREATEST OF ALL TIME! And you could buy 3 HLs for the $ of 1 RTCW! again I will say...it isnt even close....HL is by FARRR the vetter game and always will be.
 

NicColt

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You just can't compare the two, RTCW has 60 people working on it, took 4 years todo and $4-5 Million. Of course it's going to be a good game but hardware and graphics change and RTCW took advantage of that and learned from the "pioneers" and one of those pioneers was Half Life. To me the pioneers in FPS's are

The Original Wolfenstein 3D
DOOM 1 and 2
Duke Nukem
Half Life
and now RTCW.

others are just wannabies.... right now I'm playing Red Faction, ok it's good and everything but It's no Half Life or RTCW... and everytime a major FPS comes out it will up the anti everytime. Who knows, in one year or two from now we'll be saying that RTCW is so lame compared to Half Life 2 or Doom 3 or Duke Nukem forever. Take the time and Enjoy them while you can.
 

CrowDog

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Ohhhh..ahhhh...just seeing the "Half Life 2".....:D

I agree with you..and you make a good point....But to compare anything thats out NOW to HL? RTCW just dosent do what HL did for the FPS or anything close.
 

Doh!

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RTCW
Half-Life
NOLF
Red Faction
Soldier of Fortune
Alien vs Predator 2
SiN
Shogo
 

Ragnarock

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I haven't played RTCW, but I'm wondering why no one suggested Tribes or Tribes II. They are first person, and the graphics in both are damn good, too. I'm pretty sure that what they're done for multiplayer is pretty groundbreaking, too.
 

tecumseh

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I was dissapointed in Tribes 2!! I had it for a while, but I just couldn't get into it :( Great game though and the graphics are very nice.

My favorites:

NOLF (right up there with Half Life)
Dues Ex (great story, plot... It's like reading a good novel!)
Half Life (what can you say? This game got me into FPS)
Undying (Very underappreciated!! This game had great sound. Scared the hell out of me)
UT (much better than Quake.. IMO)

:)
 

sandorski

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I'll add Unreal as a very good fps for single player.

I'll second some other gems such as:

Shogo MAD
Sin
System Shock 2

Also like to add the unique Battle Zone, which is a combo of FPS/RTS/and a flight/vehicle sim. It is quite under rated. There is also a Battle Zone 2, but I haven't played it.
 

Saltin

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I liked the original Tribes more than Tribes 2, but they are both excellent games.
 

ConFuseMe

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I liked the original Tribes better myself. You can use 3rd person or 1st person views in T1 and T2, so you can't technically call it a pure fps. ;)

As for the RTCW or HL game. It's a tough choice. Some people have probably been taking into account all the MODs, and not to mention fond memorys they have of HL.
What if Half-life never had any MODs or add-ons. Meaning no Counter-strike, no Opposing Force, no Team Fortress Classic, ect.
All those things were never part of the original Half-life game and are not Half-life. So they can't be used for judgement.
Would HL even still be remembered if there had been no "add-ons" to it?

So the question is would you still choose a 3 year old game, compared to a game with recent technology and graphics as being better?
Thats up to the user I guess.
You have to take many other things than graphics into account of course, such as, Storyline, re-playability, and just how damn fun it is to play. :)

I agree that Half-life is an original, a pioneer, and classic. It's old though, the graphics grey, the storyline stale, and the re-playability almost doesn't exist for me. So I would have to say that RTCW is better by default.
People learn, technology advances, and players get bored of playing the same game over and over again.
So most aspects of a newer game will almost certainly be better to any user.

 

sep

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RTCW is my current MP game and UT. HalfLife never really clicked with me, but I have several friends that jam on it every chance they get.

fyi...RTCW is more newer and would require faster hardware.
 

Parrotheader

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I'm still working on Wolfenstein, but right now I'd still have to give the nod to Half-Life. It was an amazing breakthrough for its time, while Wolfenstein's really just a natural extension of everything that's come before it.

Like several others, I'd also have to give HUGE props to the Thief series. That was without a doubt the most intense FPS game I have ever played. I can't wait for the final release in that trilogy.
 

shurato

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I'm going to have to say so far, Half Life is a better game still even after 3 years compared to RTCW...I am not too far in RTCW but I am VERY impressed...It gave me the same chilled spooked out feeling I used to have when playing half life, especially in the beginning castle stages. I miss my cable modem very much...I will never be able to play a decent multiplayer online game again unless I move out of my new APT...
 

KentState

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I wasn't impressed with HL when I played through it. It was ok at the time, but it never grabbed my attention the way Quake and then Quakeworld did. Quakeworld became an addiction because of the multiplayer game. Max Payne was the only game that I've actually enjoyed the plot and story. I guess many people didn't understand why the tone of the story and Max where so verbos. I think they where trying to caputer the older police movies where the detective spoke in an unlikely discriptive tone. As far as RTCW goes, I've only played the demo so the verdict will be out for awhile.
 

TimberWolf

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Get both -

Decent prices for both at this site.

Search for the Half-Life "Generations Pack" - you'll get HL, Op Force, and Counter-Strike together (along with Team Fortress) for under $30 (RtCW is $40, so you may do better for that elsewhere).
 

Mike99C5

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I have to go with RTCW for the fun factor...especially in MP mode. There are a lot of new maps coming out and some great mods. If you haven't dl'ed the weapon sounds mod go and do that right now. It gives most of the weapons a whole new sound based on it's actual live gunfire sound. Very sweet. Another good one changes all the Axis logos to actual Nazi symbols instead of the other goofy one. Gives the game a much more realist feeling.

www.rtcwfiles.com