Half Life 2 could revive the PC gaming industry..

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tec699

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CNN...

We all know that sales of PC games has been on a decline the last few years. But with upcoming titles such as Stars Wars Galaxies, Doom 3 and Half Life 2 that may come to an end.

Also.. Nice that Chris Morris has the sense to notice the console/PC sales cycle. So much of the mainstream press just repeats the "PC is dead" mantra, completely ignoring the long history of electronic gaming.

PC games have seen sales decline over the last few years, as consoles stole the spotlight. 2003 might rectify that with "Half-Life 2," "Doom III" and other, unannounced titles that will be unveiled at E3 next month.

"Holiday of 03 is going to be a really big year for the PC," said P. J. McNealy, research director at GartnerG2.

It's not just high-profile games that are behind that surge. The industry is nearing the apex of the console cycle and will soon start to see declines there. Typically, that's when PC titles pick up steam. PC hardware is now considerably faster than consoles ? and the graphics capabilities of computers are noticeably superior.

While Alyx's father survived the first game, her mother wasn't so lucky.
As a result, said McNealy, "they need more intensive games ? bigger, badder, faster. ... So far, there have been very few games that have challenged the latest PC builds. Graphically, there have been no challenges. We expect that to change this year."
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MustangSVT

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i didnt know it was on a decline..

cause when i play games, it has been either Counter Strike, Star Craft Brood war (i love beating cheaters :)), and sometimes morrowind.

i didnt want these next gen consoles before and I still dont want them.. yet i spend all these money on pc :D

p.s. I cant stop listening to X-tina: fighter :p
 
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PC gaming will never die. It has it's own little nich of games which can't be the same on the console. All though are good strides in regards to FPS on the console, it still isn't the same. Furthermore, I will NEVER play a RTS game on the console... it's just aboslutely horrible to do so.

Consoles are in fact becoming MORE like computers IMO and thats why their market is growing larger.
 
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When I upgrade my comp for doom 3 I better get good framerates... planning on getting the 256 mb ati 9800 pro when it comes out.
 
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Originally posted by: MustangSVT
i didnt know it was on a decline..

cause when i play games, it has been either Counter Strike, Star Craft Brood war (i love beating cheaters :)), and sometimes morrowind.

i didnt want these next gen consoles before and I still dont want them.. yet i spend all these money on pc :D

p.s. I cant stop listening to X-tina: fighter :p
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it has been on the decline for a while now, both in % and $ share vs the consoles. the consoles are far more accesible than PCs. you can get a console for $200 and that same $200 buys you a 2nd tier video card (or 3rd tier if you check out the fx 5200... what an overpriced POS!)
 
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It hasnt been declining it just hasnt been growing. Its still the $1-1.6billion industry it always has been, its just the console market has grown leaps and bounds while the PC market hasnt. The PC market wont grow, it'll still be the $1-1.6billion industry it has been.
 
Bignate603

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Originally posted by: Atlantean
When I upgrade my comp for doom 3 I better get good framerates... planning on getting the 256 mb ati 9800 pro when it comes out.
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You bring up a good point, there's no game driven upgrades anymore. We used to upgrade to be able to play a specfic game, now you just upgrade for gaming in general. You don't need it for one game to be able to run and it wouldn't before you upgraded, you do it because you just want everything to look marginally better.
 
MustangSVT

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: MustangSVT
i didnt know it was on a decline..

cause when i play games, it has been either Counter Strike, Star Craft Brood war (i love beating cheaters :)), and sometimes morrowind.

i didnt want these next gen consoles before and I still dont want them.. yet i spend all these money on pc :D

p.s. I cant stop listening to X-tina: fighter :p
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it has been on the decline for a while now, both in % and $ share vs the consoles. the consoles are far more accesible than PCs. you can get a console for $200 and that same $200 buys you a 2nd tier video card (or 3rd tier if you check out the fx 5200... what an overpriced POS!)
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im just wondering, are u a girl elfenix? cause I thought there were few cute girls on atot and it reminded me of ur name

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Meh...PC Gaming will always have its purpose. For me it's RTS games like Warcraft 3.

Aren't Doom3 and Half-Life 2 both coming out for Xbox anyway?

mmmm....half life and doom on my 50" HDTV in 5.1. yum yum

BTW anyone have links to the half life 2 scans? i am late to the game and all the links are dead :(
 
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hawkeye81x

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I agree with Gr1mLock

PC gaming will not disappear any time soon. RTS and first person shooters are just terrible to play on consoles because of cumbersome controls.
If a practical form of virtual gaming ever comes into existence, then maybe...
 
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Who cares about new FPS games? Homeworld 2 is coming out soon!!

/amok slides back into lurker mode
 
guyver01

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Doom 3 and Half Life 2 are gonna be X-BOX console exclusives... at least at launch.
 
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BD2003

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Hopefully. PC gaming is such a snore right now.

Back in the 32bit era I paid no attention to consoles, they sucked.

Nowadays, consoles run circles around PC games. All thats left thats good on the PC is a few FPS and RTS games here or there, and even so theyre still not as good as they used to be. PC gaming used to have online gaming over consoles, but that is slowly fading.

I simply am getting sick and tired of the driver bugs, the game bugs, the unoptimized performance, unfinished games, terrible netcode, cheaters etc. I pop the game in the console and I play. No bugs, runs great.
 
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: guyver01
Doom 3 and Half Life 2 are gonna be X-BOX console exclusives... at least at launch.
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BULLSH!T
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By "console exclusive", he meant that XBox will be the only console with those two games. PC will obviously still have them.
 
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Originally posted by: juiio
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: guyver01
Doom 3 and Half Life 2 are gonna be X-BOX console exclusives... at least at launch.
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BULLSH!T
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By "console exclusive", he meant that XBox will be the only console with those two games. PC will obviously still have them.
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I second the cry of BS. IIRC, Carmack's deploying the PC version of D3 before Xbox - I don't know about HL2, but it would be utter blasphemy to roll that on anything other than a bare minimum of a simultaneous PC-XBox launch.

- M4H
 
guyver01

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: guyver01
Doom 3 and Half Life 2 are gonna be X-BOX console exclusives... at least at launch.
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BULLSH!T
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Did i possibly scoop the newsmaster??

http://www.gamepro.com/index.html?/gamepro/domestic/games/news/28843.shtml

An article in the current issue of Wired magazine confirms what a lot of gamers were suspecting already: Microsoft is actively courting id Software for the exclusive console rights to Doom III. According to the article?a feature on current developments in the jaw-dropping PC FPS?the company behind the Xbox is offering an undisclosed amount of money to id in exchange for the right to make their latest game an Xbox-only title as far as consoles are concerned. (It'd still come out on the PC, of course.)

The folks at id reportedly haven't made a decision on the matter yet?it seems a reasonable enough assumption (lead programmer John Carmack has made comments in the past that seem to show a preference for the Xbox), but we'll see how it turns out. The PC game will likely be playable at the Electronic Entertainment Expo next month in Los Angeles.


 
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I don't think Doom III would run on anything less than an XBox, honestly. The PS2 would just butcher the graphics with its powerful 4MB of texture RAM - just look at Splinter Cell, runs like crap and looks like it too - and the GameCube just doesn't seem like the type of console that would invest in Doom. Could happen though.

- M4H
 
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Eli

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Revive? I didn't know it was struggling.

As long as they can charge 400$ for a new video card, i'd say it's doing just fine.
 
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