"Hadji Girl"

[KDOG]

I am former military, but thats' not the point. Who do you think made that picture - a left-wing peace activist? "nuff said....

 

[AmdEmAll]

I'd buy his cd.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: KDOG
I am former military, but thats' not the point. Who do you think made that picture - a left-wing peace activist? "nuff said....

LOL i thought so.

 

[Babbles]

Awesome little song. I can't believe people are moaning and groaning about this - over in Iraq (and elsewhere) these guys are putting life and limb out on the line every day and as such I am sure they relish in opportunities to blow off a little steam.

The asshats who are attempting to make a big deal about this need to shut the hell up for the time being.

 

[KDOG]

Can't wait till it shows up on iTunes. 😉

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Babbles
Awesome little song. I can't believe people are moaning and groaning about this - over in Iraq (and elsewhere) these guys are putting life and limb out on the line every day and as such I am sure they relish in opportunities to blow off a little steam.

The asshats who are attempting to make a big deal about this need to shut the hell up for the time being.

I don't think there's a single person in this thread making a big deal about this. I'm not offended by it in the slightest. I just don't find it funny. I honestly can't see how anyone would. I mean, what's funny about it?

 

[Babbles]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: Babbles
Awesome little song. I can't believe people are moaning and groaning about this - over in Iraq (and elsewhere) these guys are putting life and limb out on the line every day and as such I am sure they relish in opportunities to blow off a little steam.

The asshats who are attempting to make a big deal about this need to shut the hell up for the time being.

I don't think there's a single person in this thread making a big deal about this. I'm not offended by it in the slightest. I just don't find it funny. I honestly can't see how anyone would. I mean, what's funny about it?

Oh, no I am sorry I was totally being unclear. No, the media/news people who are making it out to be a bigger deal than it is, not people in this thread.

 

[altonb1]

LOL...I was expecting a parody song to the "Barbie" song.

I'm a Hadji girl, in a hadji world. wrapped in burka, it's absurda..."

😕 :roll:

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Babbles

Oh, no I am sorry I was totally being unclear. No, the media/news people who are making it out to be a bigger deal than it is, not people in this thread.

I see. I hadn't heard any of this controversy.

 

[bignateyk]

damnit.. whered the video go? any mirrors?

 

[Jassi]

You guys are mentally sick if you think its funny or normal. Hadji is the equivalent to the N-word (as it is currently used). I am not Arabic or Muslim but because of the way I look, I have gotten some flak from idiots in the past.

All I gotta say is, its not funny, I agree with some people who are fighting this (if you don't draw the line here, then where?) and don't expect me to salute the morons (uniform or not) who agree with the song. Its a free country and I am allowed to disagree with it as much as they are allowed to say those things and I am also not obligated to respect ignorant dipsh!ts.

 

[AndrewR]

That's awesome! He's a decent singer, and if he wrote that song, not a bad songwriter either. I need to download that for safekeeping.

And thanks for explaining "derka" to me as I've never seen that movie, either (keep meaning to, but the wife isn't keen to watch). I kept seeing reference to it in a military chat room (classified chat) because it was an acronym or a callsign or something (DIRCA). I knew there was another meaning, but I wasn't in the know. 🙂

Originally posted by: Jassi
You guys are mentally sick if you think its funny or normal. Hadji is the equivalent to the N-word (as it is currently used). I am not Arabic or Muslim but because of the way I look, I have gotten some flak from idiots in the past.

All I gotta say is, its not funny, I agree with some people who are fighting this (if you don't draw the line here, then where?) and don't expect me to salute the morons (uniform or not) who agree with the song. Its a free country and I am allowed to disagree with it as much as they are allowed to say those things and I am also not obligated to respect ignorant dipsh!ts.

"As it is currently used"? Hadji means someone who has been on the Hajj, and while the current usage among American forces doesn't refer to that, it's mostly just a term to refer to Iraqis in a familiar way. It's more akin to "Charlie" than [censor won't let me put the word -- spelled like BOOK with a G instead of B], to compare it to Vietnam (though Hadji doesn't simply refer to the enemy). For what it's worth, nearly everyone uses it, and it's also used to refer to locally produced items such as a "Hadji" shoulder holster that's made in Iraq.

Yes, it's a free country so go ahead and tell some Marines to their faces about your views and allow them to express themselves in return. Or, are you only brave online, tough guy? What a punk. :roll:

 

[McGyver]

if bush can joke about WMD and he's the commander in chief, i don't see any reason why can't a solder joke about the war.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Yes, it's a free country so go ahead and tell some Marines to their faces about your views and allow them to express themselves in return. Or, are you only brave online, tough guy? What a punk. :roll:

In all fairness, you're the one who turned this into a fightin' challenge. I'll never understand people who start challenging the manhood of strangers over the Internet (particularly where they're GIs, as you are), but to each his own.

I have never understood "beloved patriot" to be a slur either. I just don't see how anyone could find this song funny - it seems completely witless to me. I think maybe you need the Stone/Parker gene to find it funny - I generally find South Park completely stupid, and didn't crack a smile at Team America either. It's not that I dislike juvenile humor - I am a fanatical Howard Stern fan - but this doesn't strike me as even marginally amusing.

I guess if you like it you should DL it - the corporal who made it was apparently reprimanded, and has apologized for it and deleted it from any sites under his control. That strikes me as slightly silly political correctness, but given our tenuous PR situation in the middle east, it's hardly surprising.

 

[Jassi]

Originally posted by: AndrewR
"As it is currently used"? Hadji means someone who has been on the Hajj, and while the current usage among American forces doesn't refer to that, it's mostly just a term to refer to Iraqis in a familiar way. It's more akin to "Charlie" than [censor won't let me put the word -- spelled like BOOK with a G instead of B], to compare it to Vietnam (though Hadji doesn't simply refer to the enemy). For what it's worth, nearly everyone uses it, and it's also used to refer to locally produced items such as a "Hadji" shoulder holster that's made in Iraq.

Yes, it's a free country so go ahead and tell some Marines to their faces about your views and allow them to express themselves in return. Or, are you only brave online, tough guy? What a punk. :roll:

Most people I know, know it from Johnny Quest (brown guy with a turban). Furthermore, I didn't challenge anyone. I don't need to say it on anyone's face, I am allowed to have my own opinions right?

As for the tough guy comment, you don't know me so please refrain from making judgements.

 

[1prophet]

Maybe this will help some here understand why this marine wrote and played that song.

These songs served as a strategy for survival, as a means of unit bonding and definition, as entertainment, and as a way of expressing emotion. All of the traditional themes of military folksong can be found in these songs: praise of the great leader, celebration of heroic deeds, laments for the death of comrades, disparagement of other units, and complaints about incompetent officers and vainglorious rear-echelon personnel . Like soldiers from time immemorial they sang of epic drinking bouts and encounters with exotic young women.

SONGS OF AMERICANS IN THE VIETNAM WAR

Imagine what would happen to a serviceperson today singing a song similar to this one

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: Babbles
Awesome little song. I can't believe people are moaning and groaning about this - over in Iraq (and elsewhere) these guys are putting life and limb out on the line every day and as such I am sure they relish in opportunities to blow off a little steam.

The asshats who are attempting to make a big deal about this need to shut the hell up for the time being.

I don't think there's a single person in this thread making a big deal about this. I'm not offended by it in the slightest. I just don't find it funny. I honestly can't see how anyone would. I mean, what's funny about it?

Oh, no I am sorry I was totally being unclear. No, the media/news people who are making it out to be a bigger deal than it is, not people in this thread.

It's really not so much that they are making a big deal of it as much as it is they are completely misrepresenting what the Marine is singing about without apparently even looking at the lyrics themselves.

Throw on top of that Marine brass caving into CAIR so quickly and it is really quite mind-boggling.

 

[AndrewR]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Yes, it's a free country so go ahead and tell some Marines to their faces about your views and allow them to express themselves in return. Or, are you only brave online, tough guy? What a punk. :roll:

In all fairness, you're the one who turned this into a fightin' challenge. I'll never understand people who start challenging the manhood of strangers over the Internet (particularly where they're GIs, as you are), but to each his own.

I have never understood "beloved patriot" to be a slur either. I just don't see how anyone could find this song funny - it seems completely witless to me. I think maybe you need the Stone/Parker gene to find it funny - I generally find South Park completely stupid, and didn't crack a smile at Team America either. It's not that I dislike juvenile humor - I am a fanatical Howard Stern fan - but this doesn't strike me as even marginally amusing.

I guess if you like it you should DL it - the corporal who made it was apparently reprimanded, and has apologized for it and deleted it from any sites under his control. That strikes me as slightly silly political correctness, but given our tenuous PR situation in the middle east, it's hardly surprising.

I turned nothing into a "fightin' challenge" -- I only wanted to find out if the author was willing to call a Marine a "moron" or an "ignorant dipsh!t" to his (or her, for that matter) face. I never said anything about manhood, only an implication about the author using the keyboard as a shield to spout off about those who are out there dying in the line of duty. Marines are being hit pretty hard, and it irks me to no end to see some punk throwing epithets online without any regard for what those troops are doing on a daily basis.

I don't find the song uproariously funny, only mildly amusing and just interesting for the Marine's fairly obvious talent.

I wouldn't be surprised if his commander, who has to reprimand him, did it tongue-in-cheek. This is political correctness run amuck, as usual.

 

[AndrewR]

Originally posted by: Jassi

Originally posted by: AndrewR
"As it is currently used"? Hadji means someone who has been on the Hajj, and while the current usage among American forces doesn't refer to that, it's mostly just a term to refer to Iraqis in a familiar way. It's more akin to "Charlie" than [censor won't let me put the word -- spelled like BOOK with a G instead of B], to compare it to Vietnam (though Hadji doesn't simply refer to the enemy). For what it's worth, nearly everyone uses it, and it's also used to refer to locally produced items such as a "Hadji" shoulder holster that's made in Iraq.

Yes, it's a free country so go ahead and tell some Marines to their faces about your views and allow them to express themselves in return. Or, are you only brave online, tough guy? What a punk. :roll:

Most people I know, know it from Johnny Quest (brown guy with a turban). Furthermore, I didn't challenge anyone. I don't need to say it on anyone's face, I am allowed to have my own opinions right?

As for the tough guy comment, you don't know me so please refrain from making judgements.

You don't know this Marine, anyone in his unit, and probably no one in the entire Corps. Why don't you start refraining from judgments, especially given the extraordinarily difficult conditions under which most Marines in Iraq are operating? You're entitled to opinions, but it is not always wise to express them. Critisizing the troops for some harmless humor is asinine.