Had to take an Honesty test for a job i am trying to get, heres one of the questions

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coolred

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Originally posted by: dderidex
But 433mhz doesn't make sense for a 100fsb. That's a 66mhz FSB clock speed. 400 or 450 (4x or 4.5x) would be the 100fsb speeds.

Yes I know that, if you had read the whole post you would have seen that I left that question to the end and was running out of time, so I guessed, I didn't have time to realize that it was a stupid guess due to the reason you listed.
 

Joemonkey

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Originally posted by: TwiceOver
I don't believe there was a 433. The identification is silk screened on to the top edge of the processor something like 80xxx/100/512/malay where xxx is the processor speed.

dang you beat me to it! I don't know about the "80xxx" part but i know the CPU speed, FSB, and cache are all on the top of the CPU, as in the opposite side of the slot that goes in the socket. Its hard to see unless you get it in the right light
 

EyeMWing

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Top edge of my 233MHz P2 says...

80522PX233512 SL2HD
<S/N> Philippines

Bold is speed, italic is cache. There's also a 2d barcode there with the same info encoded in it.
 

Xionide

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Originally posted by: Zolty
hard drive size and cpu clock speed can be easially obtained from the initial post of the machine

How exactly do you get the hard drive size since it could be partitioned? And also the bios could have settings for a slower processor and it would read as such. Also the initial post never really shows the hard drive size anyway.
 

Yossarian

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are you kidding me? that's like hitting the jackpot on a slot machine. I'll take that free Snickers any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
 

Zenmervolt

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Trick question. It's there to trap people. Anyone answering that they would pay for the second item is flagged as having given a dishonest answer. These sorts of questions are inserted into numerous tests. They are "check" questions.

Surely you've noticed that tests which screen for various psychological traits (and psychological "malfunctions") will have at least a few questions that ask exactly the same question in slightly different ways, and that these questions are placed far away from each other in the testing order. The idea on those is to check for consistancy in answer, the theory is that if someone is attempting to consciously influence their score, they will likely not remember the answer they gave to the other, similar, questions (or, even more likely, they will not even think to notice until after the test) while a person giving genuine answers will answer all questions similarly. Discrepancies between the answers are flags.

In the case of the honesty test you took, they have a question where it is known that nobody would actually take the "honest" choice. Anyone giving the answer that they would put more money in is very clearly attempting to manipulate the test.

To be honest, most of these tests are complete jokes unless the testee is completely clueless. With a little background knowledge of what the test is designed to predict, a person can easily and pretty damn transparently answer the questions to give whatever impression he desires while raising fewer "flags" than average.

ZV
 

daniel1113

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You don't think these sorts of "errors" are calculated into the cost of the soda or vending machine? What a crock. I'd have written some sort of huge ass essay on the back of the exam explaining how life isn't that simple, Donnie Darko style.
 

wbresson

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the speed is wrote on the top of the black plastic when you are looking down at the motherboard, its right before the cache speed, so look for a 512 and the number right before it is the speed, IE 233,266,300,333,366,400
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: daniel1113
You don't think these sorts of "errors" are calculated into the cost of the soda or vending machine? What a crock. I'd have written some sort of huge ass essay on the back of the exam explaining how life isn't that simple, Donnie Darko style.
You missed everything in the thread about how that's not a real question but rather a "check" to make sure that a person isn't manipulating the test.

ZV
 

coolred

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Yeah so I got my interview set for Tuesday at 10:30, will have to check specifcally on the benefits for it. The company is owned by Micro Electronics who also owns the chain of micro center stores. Microcenters benefits seem pretty good.

ompetitive, Comprehensive Benefits
Micro Center offers a high-quality and competitive benefits program designed to be flexible in nature and comprehensive in scope. All associates who work on a full-time basis - at least 30 hours per week - are eligible to participate in our cafeteria benefits plan on the first of the month following 90 days of active service. The insurance options include:

Group Life and AD&D
Coverage at one times your annual base income (rounded to the nearest thousand) is provided at no cost to the associate up to a maximum of $50,000. You may purchase supplemental life insurance for yourself and your eligible dependents at low group rates.

Medical, Dental and Vision Coverage
Micro Center associates can use the Preferred Providers Organization (PPO) network of physicians and hospitals (which includes a prescription card), and save money. Dental and vision coverage is also available. Micro Center offers Vision Service Plan (VSP) to all assoicates nationwide. The company pays the majority of the premium, and associates pay the balance each pay period with pre-tax contributions. Single or family coverage is available.

Short and Long Term Disability Plans
To insure against the loss of earning power in the event of a non-work related disability, you can elect either or both of these options. Different plans are available to choose from at low group rates.

Flexible Spending/Dependent Care Accounts
You can set aside pre-tax dollars for certain anticipated medical, dental and vision and/or dependent care expenses.

Our other Benefits include:
401(k) Savings Plan
This option allows associates to plan for the future by making convenient, tax deferred contributions of up to 20% of their pay using payroll deductions. Eligible part and full-time associates must be 21 years of age, have completed one year of service and worked at least 1000 hours. Associates can roll over a distribution from a previous employer's qualified plan upon meeting the eligibility requirements.

Paid Time Off
Micro Center recognizes the need for time away from the job for relaxation as well as for family needs or unexpected events. Eligible full and part-time associates receive one week after six months of employment, two weeks of vacation time after one year of employment, three weeks after five years, and four weeks after ten years. In addition, full-time associates receive five paid absence days and seven paid holidays per year.

Tuition Reimbursement Program
The company will assist financially in the reimbursement of tuition for pre-approved job related outside educational courses for full-time associates who meet the one year employment requirement.

Employee Discount Program
With Micro Center's Employee Discount Program, both full and part-time associates can purchase in-stock products at slightly above cost. This means great savings on top-of-the-line products for our associates.

Employee Referral Program
Associates who recruit new associates can receive additional compensation when their recruits are hired and they remain with us for 90 days.

So if Redemtechs are about the same, its seems pretty good. Their pay is decent, base pay is 11.00 per hour, with a .50 cent diferential for 2nd or 3rd shift, and an additional dollar for an A+ certification which I have. So if I work second or third shift I would start at 12.50/hour. At 40 hours thats 500 a week, practically double what I make now, although I currently only work part time.

Just wondering if I would like the job. They took us on a tour and you basically are on a small line. Someone puts the computers on the line, and then you hook them up and run some diagnostics and whatnot to see what they have in them. Then you run thier disk eraser program. From their I am guessing, but I imagine if it needs reconditioning, it gets done. They estimate the market value on it, and either upgrade it and send it back to the client or leave it as is or maybe upgrade it and then send it out for resale. So the job could be kinda boring just standing there hooking computers up and running diagnostics on them all day. I am actually kinda hoping I could do more work with the monitors, printers and laptops.

I also applied for another job at a place called unisys. It basically involves traveling to client locations, usually within about an hours drive. And doing break fix work on thier dell desktops and laptops. Its a part time job with some benefits, mandatory overtime, and as I said a lot of travel. You use your own car and they offer 37.5 cents per mile for reimbursment, they also provide you with a smartphone PDA, with internet access. Not sure exactly on the pay, but I imagine its decent. They also will pay fro pretty much any certifications I want to get, as long as they are IT related. They don't actually have to be related to the work I am currently doing. So it sounds pretty good except for all the traveling. But considering I could easily be getting paid 500 bucks per week plus mileage, and some if not much of that time I would just be cruising in my car, and they pay for certs.

I originally though I wanted the first job since it was closer and with full benefits, but man that other job sounds enticing.
 

daniel1113

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
You missed everything in the thread about how that's not a real question but rather a "check" to make sure that a person isn't manipulating the test.

ZV

No, I realize that. But that doesn't change the ridiculous nature of the question.
 

Velk

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Originally posted by: coolred

The third question was easy enough it was an Intel Pentium 2 slot processor. Unfortunately I didn't really start working with computers till after the good old days of slot processors, so I couldn't seem to find the info onthe processor that specified the speed of it. Is that located on the back of the processor? There where some stickers with numbers and whatnot on them on the CPU, but none of theme seemed like a plausible number to be the speed of the chip.

As far as I remember, the P2 days were before processor speed info setting and bios autodetect, so the bus and multiplier settings had to be done through motherboard dipswitches or jumpers. Those were almost always labelled.