Had Enough Yet?

[strummer]

Despite the highest level of oil reserves in 8 years, we get $3.00/gallon gas - and Lee Raymond of Exxon Mobil gets $400,000,000 in a retirement package:

http://www.yahoo.com/s/292719

This is what happens when you put an incompetent, failed oil man in the Whitehouse with a rubber stamping, head-in-the-sand GOP Congress.

Bush doesn't care that you have to spend almost twice now what you used to pay for gas, when he came into office. Had enough yet?

 

[conehead433]

GD

 

[43st]

You're anti-American buddy! Without that cash incentive Mr. Raymond wouldn't have been able to do his job or make any money. :|

 

[HardWarrior]

Had enough? What can I do about what Exxon pays in retirement benefits? Demand that the government regulate private industry even more than it already does? How about grow an ulcer over one more thing I can't control, and don't care about? Please... :roll:

 

[theeedude]

They made $36 Billion in 2005. So as a percentage, it's not a huge deal. I don't think it makes much business sense to pay that kind of money for someone to retire, since he already got very good compensation while working. But hey, it's their money to waste. They have $30B in cash they don't know what to do with.

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: strummer
Bush doesn't care that you have to spend almost twice now what you used to pay for gas, when he came into office. Had enough yet?

Not that i care, but i wonder what DumbYa has to pay for gas? Oh wait, nothing. Not a red cent, a wodden nickel, or a tin dime. I dont drive so my sentiment is a bit hollow, but ... well, but ... just BUT, why cant i have enought polotical power to not pay for gas. Wait, i DONT CARE! You driving assholes can go fvck yourselves for all i care. Made your bed -> lie in the fvcking thing! Im in my early 30s and dont even own a god damn car. The concern should be why do so many amurikkkans "need" to drive? THis question is answered via past administrations (yes, the ones striving to push amurikkka to the 'burbs).

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: homercles337

Originally posted by: strummer
Bush doesn't care that you have to spend almost twice now what you used to pay for gas, when he came into office. Had enough yet?

Not that i care, but i wonder what DumbYa has to pay for gas? Oh wait, nothing. Not a red cent, a wodden nickel, or a tin dime. I dont drive so my sentiment is a bit hollow, but ... well, but ... just BUT, why cant i have enought polotical power to not pay for gas. Wait, i DONT CARE! You driving assholes can go fvck yourselves for all i care. Made your bed -> lie in the fvcking thing! Im in my early 30s and dont even own a god damn car. The concern should be why do so many amurikkkans "need" to drive? THis question is answered via past administrations (yes, the ones striving to push amurikkka to the 'burbs).

Don't you read..if you do not live in the burbs you will get shot and raped by (insert gang of the week).

 

[compuwiz1]

SOS!!! SOS!!! SOS!!! It's all Bush's fault we have a free enterprise system and capitalism is alive and well in America! :roll:

 

[strummer]

Originally posted by: HardWarrior
Had enough? What can I do about what Exxon pays in retirement benefits? Demand that the government regulate private industry even more than it already does? How about grow an ulcer over one more thing I can't control, and don't care about? Please... :roll:

You don't care about high gas prices? Clinton would've never allowed something like this to happen. We had gas price run ups a couple times during his Presidency - they always were ended by a Senate, Congress or DOJ investigation. You will not get that with the current crew in power in DC.

 

[strummer]

Originally posted by: senseamp
But hey, it's their money to waste.

You're kidding right?

 

[strummer]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
SOS!!! SOS!!! SOS!!! It's all Bush's fault we have a free enterprise system and capitalism is alive and well in America! :roll:

There is not much "free enterprise" in the oil industry. It is an oligopoly.

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: homercles337

Originally posted by: strummer
Bush doesn't care that you have to spend almost twice now what you used to pay for gas, when he came into office. Had enough yet?

Not that i care, but i wonder what DumbYa has to pay for gas? Oh wait, nothing. Not a red cent, a wodden nickel, or a tin dime. I dont drive so my sentiment is a bit hollow, but ... well, but ... just BUT, why cant i have enought polotical power to not pay for gas. Wait, i DONT CARE! You driving assholes can go fvck yourselves for all i care. Made your bed -> lie in the fvcking thing! Im in my early 30s and dont even own a god damn car. The concern should be why do so many amurikkkans "need" to drive? THis question is answered via past administrations (yes, the ones striving to push amurikkka to the 'burbs).

Don't you read..if you do not live in the burbs you will get shot and raped by (insert gang of the week).

[sarcasm detector off] Yea, i dont live in the burbs. The guy that just enabled my cable conneciton told me he pays $800 a month for a suburb place with 3, yes thats 3 bedfrooms! I pay, well, i pay more boublel that for a 1BR no USABLE kitchen. He commuutes 45 minutes ONE way during OFF hours. Amurikkkans are cash cows fors gas. Now were "trying" (poorly as fvck all) to force democracry on a poulation that doesnt know the word

 

[EatSpam]

Hey, this is wonderful news. Our American CEOs are a rare treasure, second only to God. Any compensation they receive is far less than their actual value.

</neocon>

 

[johnnobts]

if it was up to you libs, the oil companies and the pharmaceutical companies would all be non-profit...

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: johnnobts
if it was up to you libs, the oil companies and the pharmaceutical companies would all be non-profit...

Nah.. they, and I would just vote that Republicans be forced to pay twice as much as everyone else..

AND why does the oil industry get a $15,000,000,000 tax cut while we take the same amount away from our higher education system - I guess the oil industry is hurting for cash

 

[Jeff7]

I don't know what the hell any human could do to warrant receiving that level of money. To say that he "earned" it is ludicrous. "Oh, he was with the company a long time." Plenty of people work with companies a long time, sometimes longer than he was with Exxon. What do they get? Maybe a pension, assuming that corrupt CEOs didn't bankrupt the company and walk away with a lavish severence package, and a slap on the wrist by the government. In that case, the employees receive nothing, except the knowledge that their company's executives won't feel a pinch of pain from the collapse of the company.
What in the hell does one person even need with that kind of money? Ridiculous excess. Absolutely ridiculous. Sure we have capitalism, but like any system, capitalism can break. Capitalists can be corrupt.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: johnnobts
if it was up to you libs, the oil companies and the pharmaceutical companies would all be non-profit...

Actually, I do think pharma should be non-profit. Its disgusting to profit off of the misery and suffering of others.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: strummer

Originally posted by: senseamp
But hey, it's their money to waste.

You're kidding right?

Unfortunately, no. If their shareholders don't mind, they can spend that money on whatever they want. It's their money, not community chest. There really aren't enough places for them to stick that much money. I guess they could increase the dividend or buy another oil company, but that wouldn't really help you either way. There aren't really that many politically secure areas for them left to explore, so they are just living off the fat at this point.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: strummer
Despite the highest level of oil reserves in 8 years, we get $3.00/gallon gas - and Lee Raymond of Exxon Mobil gets $400,000,000 in a retirement package:

http://www.yahoo.com/s/292719

This is what happens when you put an incompetent, failed oil man in the Whitehouse with a rubber stamping, head-in-the-sand GOP Congress.

Bush doesn't care that you have to spend almost twice now what you used to pay for gas, when he came into office.

Had enough yet?

No, the Sheeple want to spend all of their hard earned money to the Oil Barons.

It is their God given right.

 

[Vic]

I'm curious... is there anything bad in your opinions that is NOT Bush's fault? If I stub my toe while walking, should I blame Bush?

Since when is the President of the USA an Almighty God? An all-powerful dictator? And since when did we ever want him to be?

Originally posted by: strummer

Originally posted by: HardWarrior
Had enough? What can I do about what Exxon pays in retirement benefits? Demand that the government regulate private industry even more than it already does? How about grow an ulcer over one more thing I can't control, and don't care about? Please... :roll:

You don't care about high gas prices? Clinton would've never allowed something like this to happen. We had gas price run ups a couple times during his Presidency - they always were ended by a Senate, Congress or DOJ investigation. You will not get that with the current crew in power in DC.

This is inaccurate. Oil/gas prices have not been capped in the US since the 70s (ironically, when Reagan cut the price caps, prices tumbled). The most the Clinton Administration ever did to control oil prices was to tap the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

I find it odd that the people who claim to hate Bush the most are the same ones who want to give him (and have him exercise) more and more power.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: strummer
You don't care about high gas prices? Clinton would've never allowed something like this to happen. We had gas price run ups a couple times during his Presidency - they always were ended by a Senate, Congress or DOJ investigation. You will not get that with the current crew in power in DC.

What does foaming at the mouth over a retirement package have to do with what I think about the price of gas? Moreover, what makes you think Clinton gave a damn about anyone but himself? I sure didn't see any concrete indications of altruism streaming from the white house during his tenure. Yeah, another multi-million dollar investigation will fix gas prices, but good.

And before ANYone starts trying to paint me into one corner or another, I don't think either party is worth defending. 99% of them are arrogant, self-absorbed babies who should have been sent home a long time ago. The truth is that we're fiddling while THEY burn Rome.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: johnnobts
if it was up to you libs, the oil companies and the pharmaceutical companies would all be non-profit...

Actually, I do think pharma should be non-profit. Its disgusting to profit off of the misery and suffering of others.

I do think they should profit off curing people. But there should be price regulation, so that the rest of the US economy is not harmed by medical costs. And there should be ban on direct to consumer advertising of prescription drugs.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
No, the Sheeple want to spend all of their hard earned money to the Oil Barons.

It is their God given right.

Ah, Dave... you're always a laugh-a-minute. Speaking of "God given rights," I bet you don't know who prosecuted the Scopes trial.

 

[compuwiz1]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: strummer
Despite the highest level of oil reserves in 8 years, we get $3.00/gallon gas - and Lee Raymond of Exxon Mobil gets $400,000,000 in a retirement package:

http://www.yahoo.com/s/292719

This is what happens when you put an incompetent, failed oil man in the Whitehouse with a rubber stamping, head-in-the-sand GOP Congress.

Bush doesn't care that you have to spend almost twice now what you used to pay for gas, when he came into office.

Had enough yet?

No, the Sheeple want to spend all of their hard earned money to the Oil Barons.

It is their God given right.

Well, unless I want to go buy a bike to pedal my ass around town, I guess I have no choice but to pay for the cost of fuel. It's not like a forum discussion is going to change the cost of fuel.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: johnnobts
if it was up to you libs, the oil companies and the pharmaceutical companies would all be non-profit...

Actually, I do think pharma should be non-profit. Its disgusting to profit off of the misery and suffering of others.

I do think they should profit off curing people. But there should be price regulation, so that the rest of the US economy is not harmed by medical costs. And there should be ban on direct to consumer advertising of prescription drugs.

No price regulation in history ever lead to lower prices.