Hackers take aim at the GOP.

[Fausto]

This (while somewhat amusing) is going to be a big, fat backfire.

More ammunition for GOPers to claim "the Left hates America!" :frown:

 

[Amused]

It's just more proof that the radical left is every bit as fascist as the radical right. Neither can stand, nor will tolerate dissenting opinions.

 

[isasir]

"In an interview, CrimethInc boasted that his associates defaced the website for Drug Abuse Resistance Education, or DARE, with a pro-pot-legalization screed, and promised similar strikes against Republican sites."

What a bunch of morons. :roll:

 

[Red Dawn]

Sounds like the work of Anarchists.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Sounds like the work of Anarchists.

That's funny. Nearly every self proclaimed "anarchist" I've talked to is, in reality, a communist.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Sounds like the work of Anarchists.

That's funny. Nearly every self proclaimed "anarchist" I've talked to is, in reality, a communist.

They actuallo took time out from pounding their stupid drums to talk to you?

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Sounds like the work of Anarchists.

That's funny. Nearly every self proclaimed "anarchist" I've talked to is, in reality, a communist.

They actuallo took time out from pounding their stupid drums to talk to you?

LOL!

 

[ndee]

I'm middle extreme.

 

In the past, veteran online activists have called these tactics the "kind of stupidity that gives hacking a bad name."

Definatly.

This will accomplish nothing.

Isn't this a P&N thread?

 

[halik]

"We want to bombard (the Republican sites) with so much traffic that nobody can get in,"

---wow thats some l33t hax0rz there :roll:

 

[JackStorm]

heh, hackers...Sure, whatever. Sounds like a bunch of script kiddies too me.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: SampSon

In the past, veteran online activists have called these tactics the "kind of stupidity that gives hacking a bad name."

Definatly.

This will accomplish nothing.

Isn't this a P&N thread?

It is now. Observe as it immediately devolves into a partisan pissing match. :roll:

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Amused
It's just more proof that the radical left is every bit as fascist as the radical right. Neither can stand, nor will tolerate dissenting opinions.

Yup, they shouldn't be allowed to be intollerant.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Amused
It's just more proof that the radical left is every bit as fascist as the radical right. Neither can stand, nor will tolerate dissenting opinions.

Just a bunch of idiots with too much time on their hands. Hope they get caught and slammed into federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison!

 

[Moonbeam]

Yup, how dare they retaliate against the class warfare waged against the poor and the left by the moneyed interests.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Amused
That's funny. Nearly every self proclaimed "anarchist" I've talked to is, in reality, a communist.

They actuallo took time out from pounding their stupid drums to talk to you?

If by "stupid drum" you mean "3 inch trouser snake"...

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Yup, how dare they retaliate against the class warfare waged against the poor and the left by the moneyed interests.

So are DOS attacks a valid form of protest, or are they only valid when used against a cause you do not support?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Amused
That's funny. Nearly every self proclaimed "anarchist" I've talked to is, in reality, a communist.

They actuallo took time out from pounding their stupid drums to talk to you?

If by "stupid drum" you mean "3 inch trouser snake"...

WTF would I mean that?

 

[dannybin1742]

hmmm does anyone remember when repbulican party members of the house and senate were accessing private files of democrats, and then when caught, they said "it was an accident, they should not have been able to do it"

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: Red DawnWTF would I mean that?

Because most anarchists that I've talked to (not that it is a huge sample group) accomplish about as much (in terms of their political goals) as they would if they spent that time beating off. Well, actually, they accomplish less... if they spent that time beating off, they'd have something to show for it.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Yup, how dare they retaliate against the class warfare waged against the poor and the left by the moneyed interests.

So are DOS attacks a valid form of protest, or are they only valid when used against a cause you do not support?

You mean you disagree with German law that bans fascist speak from the public dialog? Who is going to prevent the fascists from propagandizing our wonderful country into a fascist state is people who can see the truth better than others don't act, hum? I mean, come on, this is a basic neocon principle. People are too stupid to know what's good for them so the elite need to exercise control. Why wouldn't the real elite do the same, hum? Come on, the means justify the ends, right?

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Yup, how dare they retaliate against the class warfare waged against the poor and the left by the moneyed interests.

So are DOS attacks a valid form of protest, or are they only valid when used against a cause you do not support?

You mean you disagree with German law that bans fascist speak from the public dialog? Who is going to prevent the fascists from propagandizing our wonderful country into a fascist state is people who can see the truth better than others don't act, hum? I mean, come on, this is a basic neocon principle. People are too stupid to know what's good for them so the elite need to exercise control. Why wouldn't the real elite do the same, hum? Come on, the means justify the ends, right?

Yes, I disagree with the German law. And I dont have a problem with people acting, I have a problem when they decided to start DOS attacks as a political statement. But you refused to (directly) answer my question:
Are DOS attacks a valid form of protest, or are they only valid when used against a cause you do not support?

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Yup, how dare they retaliate against the class warfare waged against the poor and the left by the moneyed interests.

So are DOS attacks a valid form of protest, or are they only valid when used against a cause you do not support?

You mean you disagree with German law that bans fascist speak from the public dialog? Who is going to prevent the fascists from propagandizing our wonderful country into a fascist state is people who can see the truth better than others don't act, hum? I mean, come on, this is a basic neocon principle. People are too stupid to know what's good for them so the elite need to exercise control. Why wouldn't the real elite do the same, hum? Come on, the means justify the ends, right?

Yes, I disagree with the German law. And I dont have a problem with people acting, I have a problem when they decided to start DOS attacks as a political statement. But you refused to (directly) answer my question:
Are DOS attacks a valid form of protest, or are they only valid when used against a cause you do not support?

You refused to extract your answer from the dialog I provided. You answered the first question but did not deal with the elite and neocon issue. How can I answer unless I understand who I'm talking to. Maybe if you had suffered under Hitler you would have more sympathy for German law. I guess you don't like Ashcroft and the Patriot Act either. Do you let your kids not swallow their medicine cause it tastes bad? I hope you understand that when the statement, give me freedom or give me death, was made, death was an abstraction. We know that people actually prefer slavery over death, right. Only the elite have the intellectual capacity to deal with these issues, right?

 

[KevinH]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Yup, how dare they retaliate against the class warfare waged against the poor and the left by the moneyed interests.

So are DOS attacks a valid form of protest, or are they only valid when used against a cause you do not support?

You mean you disagree with German law that bans fascist speak from the public dialog? Who is going to prevent the fascists from propagandizing our wonderful country into a fascist state is people who can see the truth better than others don't act, hum? I mean, come on, this is a basic neocon principle. People are too stupid to know what's good for them so the elite need to exercise control. Why wouldn't the real elite do the same, hum? Come on, the means justify the ends, right?

Yes, I disagree with the German law. And I dont have a problem with people acting, I have a problem when they decided to start DOS attacks as a political statement. But you refused to (directly) answer my question:
Are DOS attacks a valid form of protest, or are they only valid when used against a cause you do not support?

You refused to extract your answer from the dialog I provided. You answered the first question but did not deal with the elite and neocon issue. How can I answer unless I understand who I'm talking to. Maybe if you had suffered under Hitler you would have more sympathy for German law. I guess you don't like Ashcroft and the Patriot Act either. Do you let your kids not swallow their medicine cause it tastes bad? I hope you understand that when the statement, give me freedom or give me death, was made, death was an abstraction. We know that people actually prefer slavery over death, right. Only the elite have the intellectual capacity to deal with these issues, right?

Lol. Dude, I consider myself a pretty liberal guy but come on Moonie! Answer the man's question. Now you've piqued my curiosity. Nothing cryptic either! =)

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: KevinH

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Yup, how dare they retaliate against the class warfare waged against the poor and the left by the moneyed interests.

So are DOS attacks a valid form of protest, or are they only valid when used against a cause you do not support?

You mean you disagree with German law that bans fascist speak from the public dialog? Who is going to prevent the fascists from propagandizing our wonderful country into a fascist state is people who can see the truth better than others don't act, hum? I mean, come on, this is a basic neocon principle. People are too stupid to know what's good for them so the elite need to exercise control. Why wouldn't the real elite do the same, hum? Come on, the means justify the ends, right?

Yes, I disagree with the German law. And I dont have a problem with people acting, I have a problem when they decided to start DOS attacks as a political statement. But you refused to (directly) answer my question:
Are DOS attacks a valid form of protest, or are they only valid when used against a cause you do not support?

You refused to extract your answer from the dialog I provided. You answered the first question but did not deal with the elite and neocon issue. How can I answer unless I understand who I'm talking to. Maybe if you had suffered under Hitler you would have more sympathy for German law. I guess you don't like Ashcroft and the Patriot Act either. Do you let your kids not swallow their medicine cause it tastes bad? I hope you understand that when the statement, give me freedom or give me death, was made, death was an abstraction. We know that people actually prefer slavery over death, right. Only the elite have the intellectual capacity to deal with these issues, right?

Lol. Dude, I consider myself a pretty liberal guy but come on Moonie! Answer the man's question. Now you've piqued my curiosity. Nothing cryptic either! =)

Surely it would be OK to dos attack evil but not good, right? You are not the only one who is curious. So tell me what you think and we can go from there. It is something of an axiom with me that telling people things is a waste of time. I prefer to look at ideas within the realm of thought. You thinking this through will leave you richer than anything I can say to you. My position is to ask if the means justify the end in relationship to whether the ends are good or evil. Once we know what you think of this we can move on to the question as to what is good and evil.