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Ha, friend PWNED some guy in online poker

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again. party is not rigged. and bots cut in to their profits. If bots proliferate, players will soon realize that they can't win and they will leave.

Party makes half a mill a day from rake. They won't risk this to rig their games.

 
If I posted a Yahoo chess game in which somebody got "pwned", would I expect the lazy population of Anandtech to go through it line by line? No. The only thing that would make this thread worth reading is the hack that made the Royal Flush possible.
 
Hmmm...lets think about that one....

There are roughly 275 possibly hands in Hold'Em preflop
Heads up that means KK has a 1 in 273 chance of being the inferior hand before any more cards are dealt. Even in a 10 player game, if it has come down to 2 players, the odds should become 1 in 265 (assuming 8 players with weaker hands fold).

I'll take my chances with those odds, if the cards beat me after that then it just is bad luck.
 
i've gotten a royal flush once, too bad at the time i wasn't playing for money.

bt seriously, tis is pwned? and also : how many of you have had royal flushes before?
 
how do you get 1 in 265 from 1 in 273? you can't just subtract 8 hands from the list. also, while there might be 265 unique hands in holdem, your occurences of AA ( 6 ways) is much lower than the occurrences of say 56o.


you are assuming that your villain would make this move with ANY 2 cards. only then does it make your analysis even somewhat accurate. you know what, if I was playing against an opponent that would go all in with a 10k BB stack with any 2 cards, I would probably call too. but this is rarely the case.

if you really think that always getting your money in with KK preflop is the right move, then I would love to play some deepstack poker with you.

Another caveat is lets assume your 1 in 265 is correct. why can't I call this all in with QQ then? the odds of him having KK or AA is only 1 out of 132.5. sounds good to me.

incidentally, a flush only hits about 1 in 100 hands. so if I see an opponent go all in on a 3 flush board, I should always call because the likelyhood of him having the flush is so low?



 
incidentally, if we assume that your 273 unique hands are correct ( it really isn't as some hands occur more often than others like I've explained above), the odds of any 1 of 9 players having a specific hand like AA is

1- (272/273)(271/272)(270/271)(269/270)(268/269)(267/268)(266/267)(265/266)(264/265)

= 1- 264/273

= 9/273

= 3.2%

and not 1/265.

 
The odds of getting a specific pocket pair would be .45%, if my math is right. The odds of any pocket pair would be 5.88%
 
Originally posted by: oogabooga
i've gotten a royal flush once, too bad at the time i wasn't playing for money.

bt seriously, tis is pwned? and also : how many of you have had royal flushes before?
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"Pwned" would be if he had nothing and bluffed the other guy out.
 
yes you might be right, I never said 3.2% is right, only that it is right based on the assumption that there are 273 unique hands.

if the odds of 1 person getting a specific pocket pair is .45% about 1/222 then the odds of at least 1 in 9 people getting a specific pocket pair would be

1- (221/222)(220/221) .......(212/213)

= 10/222

= 4.5%

seems a bit high.

 
people are so worried about online rigging when good hands come up but they never even raise a peep about somebody hitting the lottery.

when that many hands are dealt out per second, somebody is bound to get lucky and hit it.

 
Originally posted by: thegimp03
The only thing that would make this thread worth reading is the hack that made the Royal Flush possible.
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the hack...lol. everyone's gotta get lucky once.
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i have made a royal before playing 10K + hands

and probably 5 or 6 straight flushes



can't say that my time has been worth it but at least i'm not down but alot of that time has been ups and downs

now i have been going up steady for a few months now but play much less often

bought in $500 now up to about $1400 but it is still fun to play so its not a total wash
 
on a strategy note, I don't like the OP's friend's move on the river.

pot on the river was about $9.

villain bets $9.

hero raises all in to $57.

the only time that hero gets paid off is if villain has a fullhouse or maybe a flush. all other times, villain is probably folding to the big all in.

Why doesn't hero raise instead to $20.

if villain really has a good hand like fullhouse or flush, he will probably push it in himself after your $20 raise. If he doesn't, the raise is still low enough where he feels he is pot comitted enough to call with say set of queens so you make an extra $11 off of him those times that he doesn't have the goods.
 
Another strategy note, I don't understand why someone would check top two pair on the flop. If you bet the pot at that time, you probably take it down. But he decided to check, and bet on the turn, which brought the straight into play, as well as a flush draw. Horrible play, if you ask me. Always better to take down a small pot than lose a large one.
 
if it was headsup, I can see checking top 2 on the flop since it was a rainbow flop. he was also first to act so maybe he was hoping to check raise the flop.





 
Originally posted by: 95SS
Another strategy note, I don't understand why someone would check top two pair on the flop. If you bet the pot at that time, you probably take it down. But he decided to check, and bet on the turn, which brought the straight into play, as well as a flush draw. Horrible play, if you ask me. Always better to take down a small pot than lose a large one.
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yes i agree that the opponent should have bet the two pair on the flop

but your second statement I would have to disagree with

of course it is better to win rather than lose

but it certainly is not always better to win a small pot than to risk losing a large pot
 
Originally posted by: mchammer187
Originally posted by: 95SS


but it certainly is not always better to win a small pot than to risk losing a large pot
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good strategy for the short run...but in the long run..if you want to stay in the plus its better to take the smalls.
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the answer is it depends. how big the pot when you say big pot? how small the pot when you say small pot?

do the EV calculations and come up with the correct answer in every situation.

There is no hard or fast rule about what is better, taking it down now when its small or slowplaying.

 
Originally posted by: Ticks
Originally posted by: mchammer187
Originally posted by: 95SS


but it certainly is not always better to win a small pot than to risk losing a large pot
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good strategy for the short run...but in the long run..if you want to stay in the plus its better to take the smalls.
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not really odds play into everything

would you rather have a 85% chance at a $40 pot

or a 50% chance at a $200 pot?

i know what i'll take

edit: notice in my other post i said NOT ALWAYS
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