H60 and 980x?

[muskie32]

Do you think a H60 will be able to cool a 980x? I just bought another 980x and wanted to use a small htpc case/ midtower case for this build. How will the H60 do with the 980x overclocked?

 

[Lightflash]

I would not see why it could not cool the 980X.

 

[Zap]

The H60 will cool like high end air cooling, but with the flexibility of mounting the rad somewhere other than right over the CPU like a tower cooler.

 

[aigomorla]

980x for a htpc? :O

ummm... i think your getting greedy... lol..

 

[muskie32]

greedy? Its not going to be my HTPC My HTPC is my 965BE rig. I am a folder. Most/all of my rigs are folding 24/7. I only am using a small case because after a while full towers can take up a hunk of space

 

[aigomorla]

greedy? Its not going to be my HTPC My HTPC is my 965BE rig. I am a folder. Most/all of my rigs are folding 24/7. I only am using a small case because after a while full towers can take up a hunk of space

so the machine will be under load 24/7....

ummm go air.. my best advice... trust me, its more reliable.. quieter... and u can pull your objective off better.

Ur not going to get the reliability ud get on air on a AIO watercooling setup.
Not unless u go full on custom.

In a LC'd system u have 2 variables which can go wrong.. the Fan + Pump.
On air, its just the Fan.

On a folding machine, id go with just a fan + air, unless u can afford the more reliable enterprise pumps or industrial pumps.

 

[muskie32]

Ok, I also have a Noctua NH-U12P I could use. I could build a loop for this, I have all the parts, but wanted to keep it simple... Maybe I should build a loop Would be kinda fun. Its going in an lian li lancool, and I have a few 120mm rads, cpu blocks and a few pumps. Guess I will think about it!

 

[bunnyfubbles]

I think it really depends on what kind of overclock you're aiming for

http://portals.hexus.net/?item=29609&page=5&id=microdirect

My H50 struggled during the summer to keep my 130W TDP i7 930 cool (even with push/pull or when using a 3000rpm ultra kaze) so I upgraded to the H70

Of course you can always grab the H60 and take the 980X to whatever the H60 will allow and then upgrade to an H80 or H100 whenever those hit the market and move the H60 to one of your quadcore rigs

 

[bunnyfubbles]

so the machine will be under load 24/7....

ummm go air.. my best advice... trust me, its more reliable.. quieter... and u can pull your objective off better.

Ur not going to get the reliability ud get on air on a AIO watercooling setup.
Not unless u go full on custom.

In a LC'd system u have 2 variables which can go wrong.. the Fan + Pump.
On air, its just the Fan.

On a folding machine, id go with just a fan + air, unless u can afford the more reliable enterprise pumps or industrial pumps.

do you realize that if the cooler fails, Corsair has a 5 year warranty that will foot the expenses to replace any components of the system that die as a result?

 

[muskie32]

I am thinking I will just do a custom loop. I have all the stuff to do it. I already bought the H60 so I think I will just put it on one of my 2600k's.

The overclock I will be aiming for is 4.2-4.4 GHZ.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

probably for the best, I don't consider the H50/H60 particularly well suited for cooling 130W TDP chips that are being overclocked

it'll be a great match for a 2600K

 

[Zap]

do you realize that if the cooler fails, Corsair has a 5 year warranty that will foot the expenses to replace any components of the system that die as a result?

Is it actually written in their warranty policy?

 

[muskie32]

Yeah, I dont remember hearing anything about that...

 

[aigomorla]

do you realize that if the cooler fails, Corsair has a 5 year warranty that will foot the expenses to replace any components of the system that die as a result?

and u are aware he's crunching.

a 980X @ 4.0ghz crunching is roughly 40-50k ppd.
Now u factor a 5 day down time, vs a 1-2 day fan replacement, you got a total of 3 - 4 days of lost production.

For a cruncher 3-4 days @ 40-50k ppd ~ 160-200K points LOST is a matter of crying about.

And im 1000% muskie agree's with me, because he invested in such a expensive cpu for crunching reasons.

Not to mention anyone with a decient sized farm... like muskie im assuming would have spare fans laying around, so a 1 day downtime doesnt even apply.

Its more like a 4 hour downtime...

2 hours b4 u realize the machine is off because of fan failure, and another 2 hours in cleaning / fan replacement.

VS. Having to wait for a RMA on 2 potential items which can die, where only 1 is serviceable quickly.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Is it actually written in their warranty policy?

not specifically (although like any good legal form there is wording that can go either way ), but it has happened before: http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=83249

it was probably wrong of me to claim that they are guaranteed to replace any damage components, but I would be surprised if they wouldn't and you had proof you weren't at fault and that faulty cooler caused the damage. Of course I'd be even more surprised if it failed in the first place.

and u are aware he's crunching.

a 980X @ 4.0ghz crunching is roughly 40-50k ppd.
Now u factor a 5 day down time, vs a 1-2 day fan replacement, you got a total of 3 - 4 days of lost production.

For a cruncher 3-4 days @ 40-50k ppd ~ 160-200K points LOST is a matter of crying about.

And im 1000% muskie agree's with me, because he invested in such a expensive cpu for crunching reasons.

Not to mention anyone with a decient sized farm... like muskie im assuming would have spare fans laying around, so a 1 day downtime doesnt even apply.

Its more like a 4 hour downtime...

2 hours b4 u realize the machine is off because of fan failure, and another 2 hours in cleaning / fan replacement.

VS. Having to wait for a RMA on 2 potential items which can die, where only 1 is serviceable quickly.

I honestly don't believe these are prone to the level failure like you seem to be suggesting, I've had one H50 and two H70s for over a year on 24/7 rigs (never hardcore F@H, but I have dabbled) and I have seen nothing to suggest I can't count on them as much if not more than any other cooler I have ever used.

muskie32 inquired about the H60 for high performance cooling in confined space (and I'm sure the simplicity of it was another big factor), and if there's one thing these coolers do best its precisely that

if we really want to get into max PPD we could always consider multiple ITX SSF rigs that can actually be setup to use a cooler like the H60 for a situation where you couldn't possibly hope to fit a comparably performing tower cooler into. In the extremely super duper rare chance that one of the pumps fail, well with enough such rigs in a folding farm going it wouldn't exactly be out of the question to have a spare H60 lying around to swap out

 

[muskie32]

I could always toss a prolimatech megahalems on it and call it a day. But I am thinking of just doing a loop for it...

 

[aigomorla]

its a rule of statistics..

You have 2 potential dead zones on a H6O.

1. Pump
2. Fan.

Statics shows since u have 2 units, 1 of those 2 failing is higher then 1 single failing.
Not to mention i dont trust those direct drive pumps for long term usage.
so the chances of the pump failing is higher then the fan.

Which is considerably higher then a DDC and even higher on a D5.
Seeing how those are enterprise series pumps / industrial pumps.


If your doing it for fun go ahead..
See how long that pump will last when its on 24/7.

But i wouldnt hold my breathe too long on that direct drive.

People notice them failing after a few months when they mod the loop to add a larger rad.

Not to mention the flow rate though that pump is less then .2gpm, which is very dismal compared to a typical custom which has 1-1.5gpm.