H.r. 369/s.328 - Passing tariffs on China to address the currency inequity

werepossum

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Here's a simple, bipartisan bill re-introduced in both House and Senate aimed squarely at China that would apply a tariff to balance the effective subsidy that a fundamentally undervalued currency provides. This bill would simply add a tariff (or specifically a duty) to anything imported from China until such time as China brings its currency up to its market value, which would make Chinese-made imported goods more expensive here and American-made exported goods cheaper there. Last Congress' identical bill passed the House last year with a 348-79 vote, with 99 of the “Yea” votes coming from Republicans, but died in the Senate. This Congress, with a Republican Speaker, may present an even bigger battle, even though (at least according to Redstate.com) 96% of Republicans support strong trade laws protecting our businesses.

Here's an article.
http://economyincrisis.org/s-328-cu...ct-h-r-639-currency-reform-for-fair-trade-act
Legislation has been introduced in Congress that could curb the effect of Chinese currency manipulation on the U.S., but since its introduction, the bill has stalled in committee and no action has been taken on this crucial measure.

In February Senators Sherrod Brown (D-OH) and Olympia Snowe (R-ME), along with Representatives Sander Levin (D-MI), Tim Murphy (R-PA), and Tim Ryan (D-OH) introduced versions of the Currency Reform for Fair Trade Act of 2011 in the Senate (S. 328) and House (H.R. 639), respectively. The House version of the bill currently has 156 cosponsors, while the Senate version has 12.

The goal of the legislation is to level the playing field for American businesses that have been hurt by foreign currency devaluation, largely perpetrated by China. The bill would allow undervalued currency to be viewed as a subsidy under U.S. trade law, which would allow companies to seek higher countervailing duties on imports.

“China has been given free rein to manipulate its currency for far too long, with hundreds of thousands of American jobs lost and unsustainable global trade imbalances as a result,” said Rep. Levin, D-Mich.

“Those imbalances contributed to the global economic crisis, and most experts expect the imbalances will worsen in the coming years unless there is a significant change in the status quo. The measures included in this bill provide the Administration with additional tools for enforcing the rules of trade…”

An identical bill was introduced in the 111th Congress and received broad, bipartisan support. The bill passed the House last year with a 348-79 vote, with 99 of the “Yea” votes coming from Republicans. Unfortunately, the bill was never voted on in the Senate, which necessitated its reintroduction this year.

Despite support for the previous bill, the current bill is stuck in committee in both the House and Senate with no sign of movement.

Failure to act on this bill is failure to act for American businesses and American jobs. The undervaluation of the yuan has been a major factor in China’s accumulation of a massive trade surplus with the U.S. A study published earlier this year by the Economic Policy Institute found that devaluation of the Chinese yuan and its satellite currencies may be costing the U.S. as much as $285.7 billion in GDP, and 2.25 million jobs.
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Text of each bill (they are identical) follows below.

HR 639 IH
112th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 639
To amend title VII of the Tariff Act of 1930 to clarify that
countervailing duties may be imposed to address subsidies
relating to a fundamentally undervalued currency of any foreign
country.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
February 10, 2011
Mr. LEVIN (for himself, Mr. ACKERMAN, Mr. ALTMIRE, Mr. AUSTRIA,
Mr. BECERRA, Ms. BERKLEY, Mr. BISHOP of Georgia, Mr. BISHOP of
Utah, Mr. BLUMENAUER, Mr. BOSWELL, Mr. BRALEY of Iowa, Mr.
BURTON of Indiana, Mr. CARSON of Indiana, Mr. CICILLINE, Mr.
CLARKE of Michigan, Mr. COBLE, Mr. COHEN, Mr. CONNOLLY of
Virginia, Mr. CONYERS, Mr. COSTELLO, Mr. COURTNEY, Mr. CRAVAACK,
Mr. CRITZ, Mr. DAVIS of Illinois, Mr. DEFAZIO, Ms. DELAURO, Mr.
DINGELL, Mr. DONNELLY of Indiana, Mr. DOYLE, Mr. ELLISON, Mr.
FILNER, Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts, Mr. GARAMENDI, Mr. GENE
GREEN of Texas, Mr. GRIJALVA, Mr. HIGGINS, Mr. HINCHEY, Mr.
HOLDEN, Mr. HOLT, Mr. HUNTER, Mr. JOHNSON of Georgia, Mr. JONES,
Ms. KAPTUR, Mr. KILDEE, Mr. KISSELL, Mr. KUCINICH, Mr. LARSON of
Connecticut, Mr. LATOURETTE, Mr. LEWIS of Georgia, Mr. LIPINSKI,
Mr. LOEBSACK, Mr. MANZULLO, Mr. MCHENRY, Ms. MCCOLLUM, Mr.
MCCOTTER, Mr. MCDERMOTT, Mr. MCGOVERN, Mr. MCKINLEY, Mr.
MICHAUD, Mrs. MILLER of Michigan, Mr. GEORGE MILLER of
California, Mr. MURPHY of Connecticut, Mr. MURPHY of
Pennsylvania, Mrs. MYRICK, Mr. NEAL, Ms. NORTON, Mr. PALLONE,
Mr. PASCRELL, Mr. PETERS, Mr. PETRI, Ms. PINGREE of Maine, Mr.
PLATTS, Mr. ROGERS of Kentucky, Mr. ROGERS of Alabama, Mr.
ROHRABACHER, Ms. ROYBAL-ALLARD, Mr. RUSH, Mr. RYAN of Ohio, Ms.
LINDA T. SANCHEZ of California, Mr. SENSENBRENNER, Ms.
SCHAKOWSKY, Mr. SHULER, Mr. SHUSTER, Ms. SLAUGHTER, Mr.
STUTZMAN, Mr. STARK, Ms. SUTTON, Mr. THOMPSON of California, Mr.
TIERNEY, Mr. TONKO, Mr. TOWNS, Mr. TURNER, Mr. VISCLOSKY, Mr.
WELCH, Mr. WOLF, and Ms. WOOLSEY) introduced the following bill;
which was referred to the Committee on Ways and Means
A BILL
To amend title VII of the Tariff Act of 1930 to clarify that
countervailing duties may be imposed to address subsidies
relating to a fundamentally undervalued currency of any foreign
country.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the `Currency Reform for Fair Trade
Act'.
SEC. 2. CLARIFICATION REGARDING DEFINITION OF COUNTERVAILABLE
SUBSIDY.
(a) Benefit Conferred- Section 771(5)(E) of the Tariff Act of
1930 (19 U.S.C. 1677(5)(E)) is amended--
(1) in clause (iii), by striking `and' at the end;
(2) in clause (iv), by striking the period at the end and
inserting `, and'; and
(3) by inserting after clause (iv) the following new clause:
`(v) in the case in which the currency of a country in which the
subject merchandise is produced is exchanged for foreign
currency obtained from export transactions, and the currency of
such country is a fundamentally undervalued currency, as defined
in paragraph (37), the difference between the amount of the
currency of such country provided and the amount of the currency
of such country that would have been provided if the real
effective exchange rate of the currency of such country were not
undervalued, as determined pursuant to paragraph (38).'.
(b) Export Subsidy- Section 771(5A)(B) of the Tariff Act of 1930
(19 U.S.C. 1677(5A)(B)) is amended by adding at the end the
following new sentence: `In the case of a subsidy relating to a
fundamentally undervalued currency, the fact that the subsidy
may also be provided in circumstances not involving export shall
not, for that reason alone, mean that the subsidy cannot be
considered contingent upon export performance.'.
(c) Definition of Fundamentally Undervalued Currency- Section
771 of the Tariff Act of 1930 (19 U.S.C. 1677) is amended by
adding at the end the following new paragraph:
`(37) FUNDAMENTALLY UNDERVALUED CURRENCY- The administering
authority shall determine that the currency of a country in
which the subject merchandise is produced is a `fundamentally
undervalued currency' if--
`(A) the government of the country (including any public entity
within the territory of the country) engages in protracted,
large-scale intervention in one or more foreign exchange markets
during part or all of the 18-month period that represents the
most recent 18 months for which the information required under
paragraph (38) is reasonably available, but that does not
include any period of time later than the final month in the
period of investigation or the period of review, as applicable;
`(B) the real effective exchange rate of the currency is
undervalued by at least 5 percent, on average and as calculated
under paragraph (38), relative to the equilibrium real effective
exchange rate for the country's currency during the 18-month
period;
`(C) during the 18-month period, the country has experienced
significant and persistent global current account surpluses; and
`(D) during the 18-month period, the foreign asset reserves held
by the government of the country exceed--
`(i) the amount necessary to repay all debt obligations of the
government falling due within the coming 12 months;
`(ii) 20 percent of the country's money supply, using standard
measures of M2; and
`(iii) the value of the country's imports during the previous 4
months.'.
(d) Definition of Real Effective Exchange Rate Undervaluation-
Section 771 of the Tariff Act of 1930 (19 U.S.C. 1677), as
amended by subsection (c) of this section, is further amended by
adding at the end the following new paragraph:
`(38) REAL EFFECTIVE EXCHANGE RATE UNDERVALUATION- The
calculation of real effective exchange rate undervaluation, for
purposes of paragraph (5)(E)(v) and paragraph (37), shall--
`(A)(i) rely upon, and where appropriate be the simple average
of, the results yielded from application of the approaches
described in the guidelines of the International Monetary Fund's
Consultative Group on Exchange Rate Issues; or
`(ii) if the guidelines of the International Monetary Fund's
Consultative Group on Exchange Rate Issues are not available, be
based on generally accepted economic and econometric techniques
and methodologies to measure the level of undervaluation;
`(B) rely upon data that are publicly available, reliable, and
compiled and maintained by the International Monetary Fund or,
if the International Monetary Fund cannot provide the data, by
other international organizations or by national governments;
and
`(C) use inflation-adjusted, trade-weighted exchange rates.'.
SEC. 3. REPORT ON IMPLEMENTATION OF ACT.
(a) In General- Not later than 9 months after the date of the
enactment of this Act, the Comptroller General of the United
States shall submit to Congress a report on the implementation
of the amendments made by this Act.
(b) Matters To Be Included- The report required by subsection
(a) shall include a description of the extent to which United
States industries that have been materially injured by reason of
imports of subject merchandise produced in foreign countries
with fundamentally undervalued currencies have received relief
under title VII of the Tariff Act of 1930 (19 U.S.C. 1671 et
seq.), as amended by this Act.
SEC. 4. APPLICATION TO GOODS FROM CANADA AND MEXICO.
Pursuant to article 1902 of the North American Free Trade
Agreement and section 408 of the North American Free Trade
Agreement Implementation Act of 1993 (19 U.S.C. 3438), the
amendments made by section 2 of this Act shall apply to goods
from Canada and Mexico.

From my original Redstate.com email:
The Oakland Bay Bridge, an iconic American landmark in the San Francisco Bay, is being built with millions of dollars of Chinese-made steel.

We could have made it here. We didn't. And it's just one of many ways China holds us in an economic stranglehold:

• The U.S. – China deficit grew from $84 billion in 2001, when China entered the WTO, to $295 billion in 2011

• This deficit has eliminated or displaced nearly 2.8 million U.S. jobs since 2001, representing about 2 percent of total U.S. employment

• Of the nearly 2.8 million jobs lost or displaced, 1.9 million were in manufacturing – nearly half of all U.S. manufacturing jobs lost between 2001 and 2010

• In a national poll, 96% of Republican voters say they support keeping America's trade laws strong and strictly enforced to provide a level playing field for our workers and businesses

• China owns 9 percent of our public debt

• Take a stand on China's currency manipulation.

• Stop China's illegal and unfair trade practices.

• Pass H.R. 639/S. 328 – NOW!

Will Washington have the courage to act? Tell Congress to hold China accountable

We've handed them our future, buying and borrowing like mad. So when unfair trade practices have cost 2.8 million Americans their jobs, Congress does nothing. When our trade deficit with China hits a new record, we fail to curb our insatiable desire for their artificially subsidized exports.

This is more than economic suicide. It's a national security threat that requires urgent action by Congress.

If you agree, please contact your Congresscritter and urge support.
 
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Infohawk

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Possum, you should have made the title more informative.

I suppose I support this bill, but they need to go much further.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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This can help expand welfare!

Any money taken in should be used for domestic job creation and I don't mean mindless giveaway programs.
 

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I agree with something that 96% of Republicans agree with...

I have serious doubts that 96% of Republicans support trade restrictions. The question was probably worded in a leading way. The Republican party itself is hugely in favor of free trade.
 

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I fully support these measures and hope that they get more publicity so that it can pass. It is LONG overdue.
 

cubby1223

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The basic summary I seem to be getting from that article,

is that this bill if passed is 100% good benefit to the U.S.?

And yet this bill has not passed.

Is there commentary on why the bill is not fully supported? I mean, for reasons other than "Republicans want to destroy America"?
 

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I'm very much in favor of this (the though of bringing back production jobs to the U.S. makes me giddy), but I think it'll be a fight to get it passed. This will raise prices on all our electronic toys and other products that come from China, and for people representing lower income areas it could be used against them in an election. So many people lack the ability to looks at things like this in the long term and will only see the government passing a law that will make everyday items more expensive. Also, companies that use China to maximize profits won't take kindly to it, and their money goes a long way in D.C.
 

werepossum

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Possum, you should have made the title more informative.

I suppose I support this bill, but they need to go much further.
Agreed, and now edited.

Wow.

I agree with something that 96% of Republicans agree with...

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Well - I have the same reaction about Levin. LOL I suspect they intentionally made the question so biased as to get the result they wanted. Could likely have gotten the opposite result by asking "Do you think government should add tariffs to make consumer goods more expensive?" However, Redstate.com is attempting to lobby Republican leaders, including Boehnor. Can't very well do that by saying something like "56% of Republicans support this bill".

I was once polled about chemical companies. The poll showed strong support for chemical companies. The questions were in the vein of "Do you think American chemical companies are intentionally trying to poison their customers?" I was laughing at the slant, even the girl polling me was laughing, but given the questions I was indeed 100% behind American chemical companies. (Not that I have any major problems with American chemical companies - I'll trust them as long as I have someone to verify compliance.)
 

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Hmm. Let's see.

Who pays these tariffs?

Yep, the American people.

Yet again the correct answer to the question is 'raise taxes'. Doesn't matter what that question is, that's always the correct answer.

China screwing us over? Yes, well then, raise taxes on the American people.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

Fern
 

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I was once polled about chemical companies. The poll showed strong support for chemical companies. The questions were in the vein of "Do you think American chemical companies are intentionally trying to poison their customers?" I was laughing at the slant, even the girl polling me was laughing, but given the questions I was indeed 100% behind American chemical companies. (Not that I have any major problems with American chemical companies - I'll trust them as long as I have someone to verify compliance.)

Complete sidetrack, but I was once polled about government initiatives towards healthcare. The questions were worded such that those able to give even reasonable educated answers were probably less than 5%. Things like "do you think if the government directly provided health care on native reserves as opposed to providing health care funding to native reserves that health care quality would increase". This wasn't even some largely talked about issue at the time.

The respondent kept trying to press me when a bunch of my answers were: "I'm not educated enough on the subject matter to have an opinion". There wasn't a 'no comment' option only ranges from strongly agree to strongly disagree.

The amount of salt I take with poll results increased a hell of a lot after that.
 

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Hmm. Let's see.

Who pays these tariffs?

Yep, the American people.

Yet again the correct answer to the question is 'raise taxes'. Doesn't matter what that question is, that's always the correct answer.

China screwing us over? Yes, well then, raise taxes on the American people.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

Fern

Are you completely opposed to the idea that sometimes government action can improve things (in other words, that the benefits will outweigh the costs)? Or is it just in this case?
 

actuarial

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Hmm. Let's see.

Who pays these tariffs?

Yep, the American people.

Yet again the correct answer to the question is 'raise taxes'. Doesn't matter what that question is, that's always the correct answer.

China screwing us over? Yes, well then, raise taxes on the American people.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

Fern

By this standard of 'taxes' you may as well start advocating the elimination of the minimum wage as its a 'tax' paid by Americans.

China has some particularly huge advantages over the US in terms of trade - no minimum wage, no environmental standards, no health and safety standards that make 'free trade' a joke. The currency manipulation is only the tip of the iceberg.
 

werepossum

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I'm very much in favor of this (the though of bringing back production jobs to the U.S. makes me giddy), but I think it'll be a fight to get it passed. This will raise prices on all our electronic toys and other products that come from China, and for people representing lower income areas it could be used against them in an election. So many people lack the ability to looks at things like this in the long term and will only see the government passing a law that will make everyday items more expensive. Also, companies that use China to maximize profits won't take kindly to it, and their money goes a long way in D.C.
Going to be very hard to even get it through committee. Last Congress the Democrat House passed it and the Democrat Senate killed it in committee. This time around we have the same Democrat Senate but a Republican House - and Republicans are generally speaking much less protectionist.

Hmm. Let's see.

Who pays these tariffs?

Yep, the American people.

Yet again the correct answer to the question is 'raise taxes'. Doesn't matter what that question is, that's always the correct answer.

China screwing us over? Yes, well then, raise taxes on the American people.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

Fern
Yes, Chinese-made goods will get more expensive. Non-Chinese goods may well get more expensive too as the lowest priced competition becomes more expensive. I see no practical alternative. China has all our technology - indeed, China is becoming the driving force in new technology. I'd love to be for free trade as it generally enriches a nation, but as we lose our manufacturing base, we're increasingly becoming a nation of a very small resource owner class and a very large parasitic class. That can only end in Marxism - assuming we don't collapse economically before we collapse politically. No nation can long survive consuming more than it produces.
 

werepossum

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By this standard of 'taxes' you may as well start advocating the elimination of the minimum wage as its a 'tax' paid by Americans.

China has some particularly huge advantages over the US in terms of trade - no minimum wage, no environmental standards, no health and safety standards that make 'free trade' a joke. The currency manipulation is only the tip of the iceberg.
This is true, plus if it's a project the Party sees as advantageous the red tape can be easily and quickly cut. But we have to start somewhere.
 

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I don't support this for several reasons:
We already have protectionism and it doesn't work. Sugar in the U.S. costs 20x or so more than the market price due to U.S. gov imposed tariffs and quotas. If the U.S. is protecting a sugar producing American family, then they've got to be protecting other American industries.
The U.S. gov already subsidizes American businesses (via negative taxes, payments for nothing, the Federal Reserve lending to bigger businesses first so the big businesses get the newly created credit before it's devalued into circulation) and that doesn't and hasn't create jobs.
Chrysler was bailed out in the late 70s which was a form of protectionism and we see how well Chrysler did compared to higher quality less expensive Japanese imports.
Our corporate tax rate is higher than any other developed country!
Our currency is always being devalued. I have to ask... why is it okay for the U.S. gov to devalue, but it's not okay for China's gov to devalue?
U.S. gov IP protection is extremely strong. That hasn't created jobs here.
If the Chinese currency is so devalued, then American businesses could just buy up businesses in China and bring them here.

It wouldn't surprise me if Levin is just in some wealthy lobbyists's pockets.
 

Atreus21

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By this standard of 'taxes' you may as well start advocating the elimination of the minimum wage as its a 'tax' paid by Americans.

How's that?

China has some particularly huge advantages over the US in terms of trade - no minimum wage, no environmental standards, no health and safety standards that make 'free trade' a joke. The currency manipulation is only the tip of the iceberg.

Yep. And who gets stuck with the bill for artificially raised prices on ordinarily cheap goods? Consumers.

Question for the OP: Will the bill apply to China and only China? If so, then I have less problem with it. Vietnam or other emerging markets will serve to fill those shoes.
 

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How's that?

It's the government artificially increasing costs that are eventually passed on to the consumer. Same as environmental and health and safety standards.

In the other cases the government isn't directly getting any revenue, but if you set a tariff high enough it won't either. They'll just be replaced by American made products that aren't subject to the tariff once the cost of using American workers is less than the cost of Chinese workers + tariff.
 

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Are you completely opposed to the idea that sometimes government action can improve things (in other words, that the benefits will outweigh the costs)? Or is it just in this case?

I'm completely opposed to the notion that whenever there is some problem the solution must always be to tax people and thereby raise govt revenue. This sort of notion ensures that those in Washington DC will always be able to find some problem, any problem.

So, China is manipulating it's currency, somehow the only solution offered in Congress is a(nother) tax on the American people?

Tariffs are an indirect tax and authorized by the Constitution.

Fern
 

werepossum

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How's that?



Yep. And who gets stuck with the bill for artificially raised prices on ordinarily cheap goods? Consumers.

Question for the OP: Will the bill apply to China and only China? If so, then I have less problem with it. Vietnam or other emerging markets will serve to fill those shoes.
I believe China is the only nation to peg its currency to the dollar. The problem in principle is the same - if we consume more than we create, how do we pay the difference? But China is by far the biggest problem because of its combination of size, iron-clad political control, efficiency, and currency pegged to ours.