[H]ardocp's OC'd 9600

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Rogozhin

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They were able to go from a 400/300 factory clock to 567/357 before they got their first hardlock!


The benchmarks are here. http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NDY0LDI=


Splinter Cell ran MUCH faster with the OC'd 9600! One of my favorite games. If i didin't have a 9700 already I'd be on this. Also seems like the bios isn't locked and all you would need is radclocker!

Poor geforce 5600 fx ultra.

Rogo
 
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SickBeast

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yup, methinks i'm going to buy a 9600 as soon as they hit the street and people can verify that it overclocks like a beast. the street price is also in question...should be reasonable tho. ati cards are always so nice and cheap here in toronto :)
 
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sinensis

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How are you overclocking these? I tried it with a 9500 but ended up doing something bad to my OS (XP) and I can't run the card anymore and can't figure out how to fix it. I'm about to reinstall the OS.
 
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Rogozhin

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I use rage3dtweak to oc my 9700 non pro. But I had to flash the bios to a retail because it was clock locked from the bios.

Is your 9500 a pro or a regular?

Rogo
 
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sinensis

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It is a regular 9500 64 Mb. I posted on it in technical support but only got one reply :(

I am returning the card (possibly bad card) since I tested the card in another computer and it didn't finish a run through with 3D Mark both tries I did.

And I am going to get a 9500 Pro. Are the 9500 Pros clocklocked?
 
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Rogozhin

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Yes, they are overclockable, you will need either rage3dtweak, radedit, or rivatuner to overclock it though

rogo
 
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gururu

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finally, the advantages of 0.13u are materializing.

UNBELIEVABLE. hopefully the retail cards will do as well, and ATI doesn't cripple them to preempt
a decline in 9800 sales.
 
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Rogozhin

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It really is amazing, little heat and huge performance.

The cooler is so small on that 9600 it's almost unbelievable that it can reach those speeds!


Rogo
 
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Eclipse01

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But the big question is, buy a 9500 Pro, or wait for the 9600 Pro. Both have advantages...but which would really be the better buy?
 
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bunnyfubbles

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The overclocked 9600 may sound like a winner but you have to remember that it is overclocking and such results aren't guaranteed. I still think that the 9500 Pro will hold on to crown for the midrange board simply because it isn't really a board designed to be midranged. Sure a heavily overclocked 9600 Pro might be able to give the 9500 Pro a major chase and even pull away, but do not forget that the 9500 Pro itself is no slouch when it comes to overclocking and it in turn can be overclocked giving it back the performance advantage. Other than that the 9600 Pro does looke to be a fairly promising product.
 
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Eclipse01

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yeah, thats what i've been thinking. That and it seems that the heatsink for the 9600 isn't attached by screws :Q I thought the 9600 might be a good idea, since i had one of those Vantec copper chipset things lyin around, thought that would increase overclocking...and would give better scores. But after looking, i have to say the 9500 is better
 
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lifeguard1999

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The real question is why ATI clocked it so low!!! If it can o/c this much, why not clock it this high by default and put the hurt even more on NVidia!

unless...

AT has hinted that NVidia is coming out with a new GPU in about a month or so. Do you think that ATI is holding back in anticipation of this NVidia release? Then ATI can up the clock to compete with NVidia.
 
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Rogozhin

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Just for oc reference.

I have a sapphire 9700 non pro that came running 274/270, after a bios flash it runs 324/315 stable, no volt mod, and a little extra cooling.

rogo
 
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JBT

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That benchmark would mean alot more if they showed a OCed 9500 pro. My 9500 pro at 324/297 gets better scores....
 
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gururu

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IMO, the issue isn't whether the 9600pro is better than the 9500pro. The issue is whether the 9600pro will be a good successor to the 9500pro as it gets phased out. the answer seems to be yes. but I agree, at the moment, a 9500pro is a better choice. unless the 9600pro prices end up being better.
 
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bunnyfubbles

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But the thing is, it will only be phased out on paper, smart buyers will still be able to get a 9500 Pro and now there are all those 3rd party 9500 Pros that have found their way onto the shelves which means the supply will be there, and that with the 9600 Pro to be targeting the consumers who don't know any better, the 9500 Pros dont seem to be in line to sell out like hot pants. More ppl buy the 9600 Pro means less people snatching up the superior 9500 Pro and because of that the 9500 Pro will probably remain a possible solution for quite some time.

Although the core clock is a good question, with it stable at 525MHz+ on such a relatively dinky cooler you'd think a non pro version would be "only" 400MHz and that a Pro would be pushing as high as possible for 450-500MHz at least and perhaps with a larger heatsink, and the higher the core clock the more the 9600 Pro makes up for having half the rendering pipes that the 9500 Pro has...
 
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Originally posted by: Rogozhin
It really is amazing, little heat and huge performance.

The cooler is so small on that 9600 it's almost unbelievable that it can reach those speeds!


Rogo
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i thought it was amazing too, perfromance wise...until i thought, look at how much the 9600 had to be overclocked to show up the older 9500
though going 167mhz over the rated speed with such a small stock cooler is damned impressive, nVidia should salivate over this :)
 
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Blain

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Every since my old Voodoo5 days, I've been a big AA fan. It looks like the new breed of ATI cards are king of the mountain for AA & image quality.
Funny... but it seems I didn't hear much chit-chat about "image quality" during the NVIDIA revolution.

Could it be that frame rates are high enough and that people are actually caring about how the images on their screens look?

I'm sick of seeing multiple benchmarks for video cards with 1% difference in the results. Ok ok, we get it... NVIDIA brand X is 1% faster than NVIDIA brand Y! :p
 
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Rogozhin

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yea

the 9500 pro is a beast of a card and in all those benchies it is obvious what a powerhouse it is. I myself own a sapphire 9700non pro unlocked running 330/317 and I LOVE this card. Cost $235 and I run FB 1024x768 4x AA and 8x quality AF!

Wish you guys had Forgotten Battles, there is a track in the directory that we run to bench our hardware and it stresses sytems amazingly, RAM, CPU, and VC.

It's strange but with my 9700 I get better benches with 2x AA than I do without on that track!


Sorry about the ramble ! ;)

Rogo
 
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CurtCold

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Man that OC 9600 pro is Hot!

*Going to have to get one, just for the overclocking goodness! *Smells aftermarket fan, and Ram sinks.....
 
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Rogozhin

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curtcold

Me too! Even though I've already attained the PERFECTION of video cardhood by owning a radeon 9700 :p



rogo
 
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Rogozhin

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Hell, if I could just win some powerball or steal a car I would purchase and fx just to put all doubts into the closet of my mind!

rogo
 
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