Guy smacking his kids in a restaurant...

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So the other night I'm having a beer with a friend, a fat bald guy comes in with two cute little boys, probably 4 and 7, and his wife who is in a wheechair. I don't pay them much notice until after I while I hear him chastising his kid for something.

Then out of the corner of my eye I see him open handed pop the 7 year old on the side of the head, loud enough you could hear it 10 feet away. Kid gets tears in his eyes.

A few minutes later he smacks the 4 year old in his hand with a fork. At this point violent thoughts are going through my head, so I decide to see which way the fork in the road will take me. We go upstairs to play pool, and I say loud enough to be heard "let's upstairs so I don't have to watch this asshole beat his kids". He glares at me but says nothing, deciding which path to choose.

Afterwards I was contemplating, maybe I should have just called the cops on him. I figured if I pounded on him it would be traumatic on his kids, as they would see me as an aggressor and not a savior. Probably wouldn't realize until they were adults my intetions...

I can't imagine what he does in private.
 

Dr. Detroit

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His kids = his business.

People hate on America involving itself in other countries and telling them how to run their government and treat their population.


So why do you think you know best?



 

Tobolo

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I'm all for spanking the kids if it is appropriate (and the bar is high).

That guy needs to be beat though. Asshat.
 

Saulbadguy

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I probably would have done the same thing. Wouldn't have called the cops, though. Dude will get his in the end.
 

Specop 007

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You never told us what the kids did to deserve this punishment? Obviously you know this as you know the punishment was over the top.

So please Mr. Know It All, what did the kids do.
 

piasabird

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Tell him if he was not such a cheap >>>>> he would hire a babysitter and take his wife out someplace nice.
 

MrPickins

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I agree that a smack upside the head is pushing it, but it's no worse than what I got as a child and I think i turned out to be a fairly well-adjusted adult.
 

destrekor

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OP? How do you feel about spanking children?
Do know that just because a kid cries, it's not because it hurt them, but maybe it's an (un)conscious desire for attention from those around him.

I got spanked as a kid. Hated it, yelled at my parents for it, cried sometimes... etc etc. But now that I'm older, there is nothing wrong with it. Hell, if a kid gets out of line enough, I still think a belt should be used. I should have had a belt used on me at times as a kid, would have learned faster that way. (Not saying I will use a belt on my kids. but definitely will resort to spanking them if they get out of line)

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RightIsWrong

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Originally posted by: Fmr12B
His kids = his business.

People hate on America involving itself in other countries and telling them how to run their government and treat their population.

So why do you think you know best?

Bullshit. If the kid is not old enough to take care of himself/herself, then I very proudly stand up for them. No asshole has the right to do this to a child.

I would have said something to him and embarrassed him in front of the entire place. Or I would have calmly asked him if he knows what the criminal penalties for child endangerment or assault on a minor are. I have done it before and will do it again anytime I see shit like this.

You will find that most of them are very brave when confronting someone three feet shorter then them but cower down when facing someone as tall or taller then themselves.

Edit: I am not against spanking either and I had my share of them growing up. However, any swat that doesn't find it mark on the backside is over the line in my book.
 

Saulbadguy

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
You never told us what the kids did to deserve this punishment? Obviously you know this as you know the punishment was over the top.

So please Mr. Know It All, what did the kids do.

I don't think a kid deserves getting hit on the head hard, for anything. Just a slap or something to let you know you are pissed. The pain doesn't add anything but trauma.
 
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Call me racist if you will, but I take it you've never witnessed a black woman handling her kids in public have you? They look like they're gonna kill their kids sometimes.

As for your event, well, it was uncalled for no doubt, but my Dad beating my ass once in awhile is what kept me from being one of todays "Oh he's just ADHD" kids.

 

MrPickins

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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
I would have said something to him and embarrassed him in front of the entire place. Or I would have calmly asked him if he knows what the criminal penalties for child endangerment or assault on a minor are. I have done it before and will do it again anytime I see shit like this.

:laugh:

As mild as the event was I seriously doubt the man would be prosecuted.
 

Toasthead

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Originally posted by: Fmr12B
His kids = his business.

People hate on America involving itself in other countries and telling them how to run their government and treat their population.


So why do you think you know best?

If you want to make this a true relation to US foreign policy, then his kids would have cried for help and then when he came over and helped them they would have been pissed and cried 'WHY DID YOU HURT MY DADDY?!?!?"
 

brandonb

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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: Fmr12B
His kids = his business.

People hate on America involving itself in other countries and telling them how to run their government and treat their population.

So why do you think you know best?

Bullshit. If the kid is not old enough to take care of himself/herself, then I very proudly stand up for them. No asshole has the right to do this to a child.

I would have said something to him and embarrassed him in front of the entire place. Or I would have calmly asked him if he knows what the criminal penalties for child endangerment or assault on a minor are. I have done it before and will do it again anytime I see shit like this.

You will find that most of them are very brave when confronting someone three feet shorter then them but cower down when facing someone as tall or taller then themselves.

Edit: I am not against spanking either and I had my share of them growing up. However, any swat that doesn't find it mark on the backside is over the line in my book.


Get off it. There could be a reason why he is doing it. You haven't heard the other side of the story. My nephew has bad violent temper tandrums. He has been diagnosted with every type of mental disorder from ADHD, ADD, Bipolar, etc. When he throws temper tantrums he will get out sticks and whack people over the head. I'm just not going to waggle my finger at him while he is swinging a metal bike lock at my sister (his mom). I've had to smack him in the side/back of the head a few times. Wanna know what happens? It wakes him out of his frenzy and he calms down. And the best part, anytime I'm around, he seems to be in total control now. I ask my sister why she didn't smack her kids from time to time. "I don't want some asshole calling the cops on me for being a parent to my children."
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Originally posted by: Specop 007
You never told us what the kids did to deserve this punishment? Obviously you know this as you know the punishment was over the top.

So please Mr. Know It All, what did the kids do.

I don't think a kid deserves getting hit on the head hard, for anything. Just a slap or something to let you know you are pissed. The pain doesn't add anything but trauma.

Right, but all I see in the OP is

"I heered a smack'n i saws this guy aboosin his kids'n stuff! I was gonna be fer teachin him a lessin!"

I mean seriously. Child abuse IS a problem we should be aware of, but you need just a tad bit more then "I heered a pop!" to suddenly play Mr. Hero.

To put it in perspective, if RightIsWrong tried his macho shit with me he might find it didnt work so well. I'd either tell him hes next, or I'd offer him my phone to call the police. His choice.
 

Baked

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Originally posted by: Toasthead
Originally posted by: Fmr12B
His kids = his business.

People hate on America involving itself in other countries and telling them how to run their government and treat their population.


So why do you think you know best?

If you want to make this a true relation to US foreign policy, then his kids would have cried for help and then when he came over and helped them they would have been pissed and cried 'WHY DID YOU KILL MY DADDY?!?!?"

FIXED.
 

Saulbadguy

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Originally posted by: brandonb
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: Fmr12B
His kids = his business.

People hate on America involving itself in other countries and telling them how to run their government and treat their population.

So why do you think you know best?

Bullshit. If the kid is not old enough to take care of himself/herself, then I very proudly stand up for them. No asshole has the right to do this to a child.

I would have said something to him and embarrassed him in front of the entire place. Or I would have calmly asked him if he knows what the criminal penalties for child endangerment or assault on a minor are. I have done it before and will do it again anytime I see shit like this.

You will find that most of them are very brave when confronting someone three feet shorter then them but cower down when facing someone as tall or taller then themselves.

Edit: I am not against spanking either and I had my share of them growing up. However, any swat that doesn't find it mark on the backside is over the line in my book.


Get off it. There could be a reason why he is doing it. You haven't heard the other side of the story. My nephew has bad violent temper tandrums. He has been diagnosted with every type of mental disorder from ADHD, ADD, Bipolar, etc. When he throws temper tantrums he will get out sticks and whack people over the head. I'm just not going to waggle my finger at him while he is swinging a metal bike lock at my sister (his mom). I've had to smack him in the side/back of the head a few times. Wanna know what happens? It wakes him out of his frenzy and he calms down.

:laugh:
 

IceBergSLiM

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Face it you were not going to beat him. You couldn't even say to his face that you thought his behavior with his children was reprehensible and if he did it again you would be calling the police.
 

randay

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some children need to be beat, and i feel 7 years old is old enough to go upside the head on. but if you didnt witness what the kid did, then you really have no idea whether it was warranted or not though. and since he only hit his younger childs hand, i'd say he was in control and just disciplining his kids. whether you agree with his methods or not... doesnt matter i guess.

i do agree its bad taste to do it in public though.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Call me racist if you will, but I take it you've never witnessed a black woman handling her kids in public have you? They look like they're gonna kill their kids sometimes.

As for your event, well, it was uncalled for no doubt, but my Dad beating my ass once in awhile is what kept me from being one of todays "Oh he's just ADHD" kids.

What else are they going to do? Send them to time-out? LOL

I think that's why this current upcoming generation is going to be so fucked up, because Ritalin and time-outs raised them.
 

Kabrinski

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
You never told us what the kids did to deserve this punishment? Obviously you know this as you know the punishment was over the top.

So please Mr. Know It All, what did the kids do.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Call me racist if you will, but I take it you've never witnessed a black woman handling her kids in public have you? They look like they're gonna kill their kids sometimes.

As for your event, well, it was uncalled for no doubt, but my Dad beating my ass once in awhile is what kept me from being one of todays "Oh he's just ADHD" kids.

What else are they going to do? Send them to time-out? LOL

I think that's why this current upcoming generation is going to be so fucked up, because Ritalin and time-outs raised them.

it's why the current generation is so fucked up, because parents got in trouble if they 'abused' their children, when in reality they were likely raising their kids the exact way their parents raised them. The US has grown too damn soft and we are definitely going to feel it soon.

This is also why we need to legalize marijuana. It's gonna calm all these kids down and keep them out of trouble. :laugh:

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