I disagree. Plenty of users here, who are power users, use Vista heavily and hardly ever have problems. Mem is one of them. Hope you don't mind Mem.
I disagree. Plenty of users here, who are power users, use Vista heavily and hardly ever have problems. Mem is one of them. Hope you don't mind Mem.
Kelemvor
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Was that video supposed to be funny?
I don't get why people don't like Vista unless it's on an underpowered machine that shouldn't be running it in the first place I always told people it sucked but that was because I had only seen it on slow machines. I have it on my laptop and have no complaints at all. I'm told 7 is basically Vista but without whatever makes Vista such a resource hog so I'll probably put that on my wife's laptop since her's is damn slow with Vista.
I don't get why people don't like Vista unless it's on an underpowered machine that shouldn't be running it in the first place I always told people it sucked but that was because I had only seen it on slow machines. I have it on my laptop and have no complaints at all. I'm told 7 is basically Vista but without whatever makes Vista such a resource hog so I'll probably put that on my wife's laptop since her's is damn slow with Vista.
I don't mind Vista, but I WILL use XP if given the choice. I LOVE 7, but I keep getting C++/VB errors and can't install shit, and nothing works to fix it but a format. It sucks, and I think I've narrowed it down to the Lenovo Power Manager loading C++ 2005, but I put VS 2008 and it still gives me the same shit...
So here you're Vista failure is that dialog boxes pop up while you're not watching (I guess you're staring at the keyboard as your type or reading the copy while you're transcribing) and you accidentally hit spacebar to cancel? I can't say I frequently have this problem, in fact, I can't even remember the last time this happened. And while I'm sure it may have happened one or two times in the past year, I can say that if a new dialog box DIDN'T take focus I'd have many more instances of frustration. Far more frequently do I wait for a box to popup so I can read the information and hit space to cast it away. Popup windows are SUPPOSED to take focus to alert the user of something that's happening. Can you imagine how many people would completely miss them if they didn't? OS failure? No
I'm not sure exactly what you're whining about here. My XP laptop is running IE8 and WMP11 with just slightly lower build numbers than my Vista desktop, which would seem to me that they've stayed on a fairly level playing field. I admit, I'm no expert in IE/WMP because I haven't used either for years but I'm not seeing a huge discrepancy either.
I would say I've had maybe 10 total crashes since Nov '07 (when I built this system and installed Vista). Of those 10, I can tell you that 2 or so came from bad drivers (beta versions), and at LEAST 5 came from OC attempts that left my system very unstable. There may have been 1 or 2 that just came out of no where, but honestly, I can't even remember when my system last crashed (now that I'm using a good set of drivers and my OC is stable). Call bullshit if you want, or maybe you're just exaggerating how unstable you think Vista is.
Please tell me how user stupidity is a flaw of the OS. You're going to tell me it's MS' fault that certain humans are so obtuse that they can't locate a button on their keyboard? Come on man.
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So after saying earlier that this is NOT about pet peeves, you list a pet peeve that is not related to Vista.
Other source titles seem to work fine except TF2 and CSS. Not sure why either. There a lot of topics about it in the steam forums.
At least with CSS and Windows 7 there is.
Arkaign
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http://www.techradar.com/revie...2923/review/?artc_pg=4
http://www.techradar.com/revie...2923/review/?artc_pg=6
"Final verdict
Windows 7 combines the security and architectural improvements of Windows Vista with better performance than XP can deliver on today's hardware. No version of Windows is ever perfect, but Windows 7 really is the best release of Windows yet."
http://www.engadget.com/2009/0...rough-benchmark-tests/
^^ That was with pre-RC Win7.
"Windows 7 is a much more ambitious undertaking that not only addresses the performance issues in Vista but does a lot to deal with the historical complexity of the Windows platform (and speed up many-core systems when they become common)."
From what I can tell regarding research related to differences of Vista vs. Win7, the performance has most definitely been improved. A lot of this has only come out with the RC release of Win7. The betas were promising, but the final is a lot faster.
Also, there are a number of substantial blood and guts changes under the hood, look up MinWin/7
Arkaign
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Win7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista ..
http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/review_perf.asp
"Windows 7 finally exorcizes the biggest demon from Windows Vista, offering dramatically better performance in a smaller footprint."
http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/review_perf.asp
"Windows 7 finally exorcizes the biggest demon from Windows Vista, offering dramatically better performance in a smaller footprint."
Arkaign
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October 22nd to retail. The RTM download is already available. AFAIK, you can install the version that you wish to purchase but skip the input of the key, and you can use it for up to 30 days before having to put the key in. When it hits retail : buy your version, then put the key in / activate
secretanchitman
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7 is a lot better than vista thats for sure, but until software absolutely doesnt work on xp, im sticking with xp.
Mike Gayner
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Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Originally posted by: schneiderguy
I still don't understand all of the hate Vista gets. Windows7 is the exact same thing with a new taskbar and all of a sudden its teh best OS evar!1!!! Sure, it's better, but its not that much better
The caching of the frequently used programs in free memory is annoying as hell. The hard drive spins forever because of this.
In my previous rant, I complained about the 5 minute boot up. Well, no improvement over XP there.
"Are you sure you meant to do that" dialogs
Norton Ghost doesn't work with Vista. All it takes is an update of Ghost and Blamo. I blame Norton as much as Microsoft, but it worked fine in XP!
2 minute solutions to all issues:
1. Disable Superfetch
2. Disable UAC
3. Dont use Norton products, ever.
Arkaign
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Hey, Ghost is pretty good Far better than any other Norton/Symantec product, anyway.
Anyway, get a newer version? Current V14 is Vista supported : http://www.symantec.com/norton/ghost
Far better than any other Norton/Symantec product, anyway. Anyway, get a newer version? Current V14 is Vista supported : http://www.symantec.com/norton/ghost
My computer is 2 month old and I do not care if it is Vista or Win7.
Win2K was the last M$ OS iteration that I use, but it doesn't have drivers for my new computer therefor I was forced to purchase a newer Windows (doesn't mean better) to play Civ4. Linux is my OS of choice since the late 90s.
I had a large number of nvidia driver issues early on with Vista (got it the day of launch, issues were mainly with Dreamscene). After they ironed those out i haven't had a crash in over a year, and the few i have had were related to overclocking.
Ichinisan
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So after saying earlier that this is NOT about pet peeves, you list a pet peeve that is not related to Vista.
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I am a VERY fast and productive touch typist. It happens to me ALL THE TIME that I'm typing when something finishes or a dialog pops up. I end up canceling something or selecting 10 options because a pop-up dialog stole keyboard focus and captured 10 keystrokes in a split second.
It's the operating system's fault and the APIs should make sure that a pop-up function can set the z-priority to make a dialog visible without actually stealing keyboard focus. Is it that hard, Microsoft?
That's a flaw that Microsoft has allowed in every version of Windows.
Still, I can't begin to tell you have many times I've encountered usability flaws with Vista that are not a problem with XP. Manual editing of file associations and actions, anyone?
I'm not biased. I was a huge Windows ME apologist and I was one of the first to switch to XP when everyone else was complaining about obvious improvements as 'flaws'. I've used Vista almost exclusively since it came out (Microsoft arbitrarily wouldn't release DirectX 10 for XP). I've been using Windows 7 since the first public Beta. There are some big improvements, but it still carries over many of the same flaws introduced with Vista.
As a tech support specialist, I have to find out how to control all the little things and know what other people see when they use it. I try to be as familiar as possible with the tiny differences between different versions of Windows and its components.
I will criticize anything I use. I have no shortage of criticisms for Windows XP. Neither Vista nor Windows 7 fix most of the basic annoyances I have with XP, and they add many of their own problems. Believe me when I say that Windows would be MUCH more usable AND secure if I had any control over development.
zerocool84
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Never had any problems with Vista. There's some serious PEBKAC here in this thread. My system runs much more stable and programs run much faster than XP ever did. W7 is just a refined Vista and see no reason to upgrade until SP1 comes out for it.
I type over 100 WPM as well, and again, this isn't a huge problem for me. Please tell me what tasks you routinely perform that involve dialog boxes popping up frequently while you're also typing large volumes of text. I just don't see this being a frequent problem for many people I know.
Nik
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Originally posted by: schneiderguy
I still don't understand all of the hate Vista gets. Windows7 is the exact same thing with a new taskbar and all of a sudden its teh best OS evar!1!!! Sure, it's better, but its not that much better
It's very different. Faster, more reliable, MUCH less of a resource hog.
Vista was pushed out early to make M$ investors happy but it wasn't a finished OS. Windows 7 is what Vista was supposed to be if the Vista release could have been held back to wait for a finished product.
It's not as bad as, but a similar situation to Windows ME.
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