[guru3d] TitanZ review

[KaRLiToS]

The titan Z would be a terrible choice for a gaming card. But this is only true when we look at the price. Its like what the..........

I mean, if they were free.........i would surely take 2.

The current price absolutely blows my mind. Someone said you can buy a whole gaming PC for that price. Well that has been true since the original titan launched. Heck, you could build a "gaming" PC for the price of a 780ti. The difference here is one could by a top of the line, gaming elite PC for the price of a titan z. Not a budget or mid ranged PC..............

a top of the line sweet gaming PC for the price of one titan Z!!!!

I seriously would hope that no one buys a Titan Z if all they are is a gamer. Most programers needs would be met better with a real tesla. But i guess there could be a small small group of people that game and do CUDA. Perhaps they can get their employer to invest in some of these.

This really must be a ultra low volume product. There is no way that even Nvidia expects this thing to sell in any real quantity. But you have to wonder whats up with it and why it exist.

To me this seems like a really stupid card. But perhaps Nvidia really does have a market for it. Perhaps their are companies/people out there that would buy them. I could think of the gaming/movie industry. This product would have to have the professional in mind. And to a business, it would be a tax write off anyway.

This is not a product for the rest of us and for that, we should just drop it.
Or we could have post after post stating the obvious, over and over and over.
Its way to high. Not something any gamer should buy.
/end of story

Exactly. Priced reasonably, this card would sell like hot cake. But it is not the case.

 

[Lepton87]

Maybe I didn't read the review thoroughly enough but I didn't remember any mention of power delivery for the GPUs. How many phases each GPU and memory have? 6+1 per GPU?
UPDATE: Nevermind
"With advanced dynamic power balancing and 12 phase power"

The question remains how is that split.

 

[SolMiester]

It's 2X as expensive, slower, and with a poorer cooling solution. I can't think of too many kinder words to describe it.

Getting tied up with comparisons there!, none of which confirm its an abysmal card!

 

[SolMiester]

Lol, are you serious, the Titan Z is a total disaster especially at this price its almost embarrassing for the whole GPU history.

And yet, the only point you make in your above post is the price?....LOL...No one is saying its not embarrassing expensive and TBH, I dont know what NV was thinking, however, its still not an abysmal card!

 

[dn7309]

The titan Z would be a terrible choice for a gaming card. But this is only true when we look at the price. Its like what the..........

I mean, if they were free.........i would surely take 2.

The current price absolutely blows my mind. Someone said you can buy a whole gaming PC for that price. Well that has been true since the original titan launched. Heck, you could build a "gaming" PC for the price of a 780ti. The difference here is one could by a top of the line, gaming elite PC for the price of a titan z. Not a budget or mid ranged PC..............

a top of the line sweet gaming PC for the price of one titan Z!!!!

I seriously would hope that no one buys a Titan Z if all they are is a gamer. Most programers needs would be met better with a real tesla. But i guess there could be a small small group of people that game and do CUDA. Perhaps they can get their employer to invest in some of these.

This really must be a ultra low volume product. There is no way that even Nvidia expects this thing to sell in any real quantity. But you have to wonder whats up with it and why it exist.

To me this seems like a really stupid card. But perhaps Nvidia really does have a market for it. Perhaps their are companies/people out there that would buy them. I could think of the gaming/movie industry. This product would have to have the professional in mind. And to a business, it would be a tax write off anyway.

This is not a product for the rest of us and for that, we should just drop it.
Or we could have post after post stating the obvious, over and over and over.
Its way to high. Not something any gamer should buy.
/end of story

Nvidia intend to use this card as a marketing tool to show how big of a **** they got, that until AMD came out with the something bigger.

 

[dn7309]

any why are people still writing about the power draw of the Titan Z vs the 295x2

If I can afford either card, the last thing I think about is the power consumption.

 

[chimaxi83]

any why are people still writing about the power draw of the Titan Z vs the 295x2

If I can afford either card, the last thing I think about is the power consumption.

You must be new here.

 

[3DVagabond]

any why are people still writing about the power draw of the Titan Z vs the 295x2

If I can afford either card, the last thing I think about is the power consumption.

If one brand has an advantage in any metric it turns into the most important reason to buy a card.

 

[Kaapstad]

Both the Titan Z and 295X2 are rubbish but for different reasons.

If anyone mentions single slot for these cards, it is a joke.

With the money you save by buying a couple of single GPU cards you can buy a very good motherboard and case to house them.

 

[Grooveriding]

any why are people still writing about the power draw of the Titan Z vs the 295x2

If I can afford either card, the last thing I think about is the power consumption.

I've always agreed, particularly when you are discussing the top end cards. Even if a card has to consume 100W more than another, but it allows it to be the fastest card available and the other card cannot get the same gains with the power increase, that is perfectly fine. We're talking about pennies in difference on your energy bill. The caveat to that would be so long as you reasonably control and dissipate the heat generated. If you watercool power consumption pretty much becomes irrelevant as long as you have enough radiator your system will still be whisper quiet.

The power draw difference between 295X2 and TitanZ is really interesting because it's only 30W less consumed by the TitanZ in this review. The TitanZ is also generally about 15-20% slower than a 295X2 averaged across all games, but only uses 30W less power.

The 295X2 is the better card all around, even ignoring the fact that the TitanZ is priced in a way that cannot be justified by any usage case or need, short of wanting to spend more money to get less just because you can.

 

[Lepton87]

The power draw difference between 295X2 and TitanZ is really interesting because it's only 30W less consumed by the TitanZ in this review. The TitanZ is also generally about 15-20% slower than a 295X2 averaged across all games, but only uses 30W less power.
.

So it's less energy efficient? What an embarrassment.

 

[RussianSensation]

Sweclockers has posted their review. Titan Z loses to a pair of reference R9 290s.

R9 290s in CF are truly the bang for the buck right now, delivering 91% of the performance of 780Ti SLI. It's also pretty impressive how well R9 280Xs stack up given that Tahiti more than 2.5 years old (which would imply 7970Ghz CF is even faster).

Moving on to multi-monitor gaming (5760 × 1080 pixels), R9 290X CF wins every single bench except FC3.

Things get worse moving to 4K gaming, where Titan Z is often only as fast as R9 280X CF or even loses to this $500 setup! R9 290X CF wins every bench at 4K against 780Ti SLI.

It's interesting that NV advertized this card for multi-monitor and 5K gaming but in these specific 2 instances, the card is a total failure against not only R9 290 CF but often against R9 280X CF.

It also throttles to 706 mhz after prolonged gaming sessions.

I think even at $1,000, strictly for gaming, this card wouldn't make sense over something like Sapphire Tri-X R9 290s.

 

[Grooveriding]

TitanZ loses to every single multigpu configuration of high-end cards in that review, as well as the 295X2 of course. :thumbsdown:

Might as well buy a pair of 780s and just set fire to the other $2000 because you can. That is a TitanZ purchase :awe:

 

[RussianSensation]

TitanZ loses to every single multigpu configuration of high-end cards in that review, as well as the 295X2 of course. :thumbsdown:

Might as well buy a pair of 780s and just set fire to the other $2000 because you can. That is a TitanZ purchase :awe:

Yup, NV could have saved their face by delaying the launch 3 months, cherry-picking the best 780Tis (EVGA KINGPIN edition), putting in a dual radiator AIO, and shipped it with 1100+ boost clocks.

I bet that Titan/Titan Black owners are happy now - the value of their cards might go up due to excess demand for "cheap DP performance".

And people who are arguing for reduced power consumption, W8100 provides 2 Tflops of DP in a 220W TDP envelope. If you buy 2 of those, the 2nd card is 50% off. For $3750, you get 4 Tflops of DP performance, which owns the Titan Z in DP/watt.

 

[Cookie Monster]

I cant believe you guys are still beating up the dead horse..

 

[RussianSensation]

I cant believe you guys are still beating up the dead horse..

As a side note, thanks to that Titan Z Sweclokers review, I found quite interesting how poorly NV cards do at multi-monitor and 4K gaming given their price (a view reinforced already by HardOCP). Most 780s are $500+ and a $370-400 R9 290 walks over it. 2 of these cards and you are looking at $200-260 extra to pay for NV and get less performance and less VRAM. Titan Z just reinforces that NV has been milking customers for most of 2013/2014. The backlash to Titan Z is not only about that card but NV's overall pricing schemes this generation. I mean 770 4GB goes for $360 while R9 280X is $240. Is NV kidding? :sneaky:

I think NV will need to re-evaluate their pricing strategy with 880. If NV prices GM204 at $600, it would really be bad news for us gamers. I would hope GK104's successor is $499.

 

[Flapdrol1337]

4GB 770's aren't exactly common, so that's a bit of a false comparison.

regular 770's are still slightly more expensive than 280x's though, I guess nvidia makes a decent profit on them if they're selling, 280x has a 20% bigger chip, wider memory bus and more memory, so is probably more expensive to make.

I guess on the high end cards there's a 15 - 20% "nvidia tax" if you look at price/performance, that's of course not counting ridiculous cards like the titan black and the titan z.

 

[Madpacket]

Oh man, hard not to gloat as my dual 290's which paid for themselves mining Dodge and LTC is beating this overpriced POS in 4K gaming. They work great in with my eyefinity setup with very little stutter compared to the dual 280x's they replaced.

I think Nvidia needs to drop one more digit from the price of these, they really shouldn't cost more than 1K. Someone from Nvidia should probably be fired over this.

 

[96Firebird]

Oh man, hard not to gloat as my dual 290's which paid for themselves mining Dodge and LTC...

You mined an automobile? Impressive... :awe:

 

[PingviN]

Lamest launch ever. Nvidia shouldn't have released it at all, it's a complete joke. Cost twice as much as the competition and perform worse. Slightly better if overclocked, but for twice the money? Wow, just, wow.

Not sending cards to reviewers is a dead give away. It's so embarrassing they don't even want people to know about it.

 

[dn7309]

Thanks to the Titan Z, AMD can posted on their website that the 295x2 is the "undisputed" single graphic card in the world (which they did)

 

[Techhog]

Sweclockers has posted their review. Titan Z loses to a pair of reference R9 290s.

R9 290s in CF are truly the bang for the buck right now, delivering 91% of the performance of 780Ti SLI. It's also pretty impressive how well R9 280Xs stack up given that Tahiti more than 2.5 years old (which would imply 7970Ghz CF is even faster).

Moving on to multi-monitor gaming (5760 × 1080 pixels), R9 290X CF wins every single bench except FC3.

Things get worse moving to 4K gaming, where Titan Z is often only as fast as R9 280X CF or even loses to this $500 setup! R9 290X CF wins every bench at 4K against 780Ti SLI.

It's interesting that NV advertized this card for multi-monitor and 5K gaming but in these specific 2 instances, the card is a total failure against not only R9 290 CF but often against R9 280X CF.

It also throttles to 706 mhz after prolonged gaming sessions.

I think even at $1,000, strictly for gaming, this card wouldn't make sense over something like Sapphire Tri-X R9 290s.

Hold it. The 295X2 is losing to 290X crossfire in these. That means that the 295X2 is throttling as well... Weird.

 

[Lepton87]

I wonder why they went with a single fan cooler instead of something like 7990 has. I had a 6990 which had a very similar cooler and the cooler was a disaster in terms of noise. Performance wasn't good either. Triple-fan 2.5 slot cooler would certainly fare better. Hell, maybe even 3 slot?

 

[wand3r3r]

Sweclockers has posted their review. Titan Z loses to a pair of reference R9 290s.


R9 290s in CF are truly the bang for the buck right now, delivering 91% of the performance of 780Ti SLI. It's also pretty impressive how well R9 280Xs stack up given that Tahiti more than 2.5 years old (which would imply 7970Ghz CF is even faster).

Moving on to multi-monitor gaming (5760 × 1080 pixels), R9 290X CF wins every single bench except FC3.

Things get worse moving to 4K gaming, where Titan Z is often only as fast as R9 280X CF or even loses to this $500 setup! R9 290X CF wins every bench at 4K against 780Ti SLI.



It's interesting that NV advertized this card for multi-monitor and 5K gaming but in these specific 2 instances, the card is a total failure against not only R9 290 CF but often against R9 280X CF.

It also throttles to 706 mhz after prolonged gaming sessions.


I think even at $1,000, strictly for gaming, this card wouldn't make sense over something like Sapphire Tri-X R9 290s.

The Titan(ic) z just hit the iceberg and NV is wondering what happened to the best thing "we ever built".

 

[itsmydamnation]

Probably poor wording there!...Do you not have another descriptive for the worlds 2nd fastest card? The only reason the 295x2 runs cooler and clocks better is the cooling solution.
Cost is the only pit fall of this card!

kinda like the 290/780 in reverse,

its kinda funny! i actually have to give you credit

Its a great chip, poorly delivered IMO, and unless you dont mind finishing the product with an acceptable cooling solution, i believe most will gratefully go with the polished NV alternative at the reduced price, until OEM versions of the 290 with sane cooling and noise levels round the product off.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35698997&postcount=152

that kind of consistency across hardware vendors has no place on anandtech!