guns-ballistics-police-dudes

[FoBoT]

how do they match a shotgun to a crime?
shotguns don't have rifling , isn't that how a bullet is matched to a pistol/rifle?

can you tell what shot came from what shotgun?

 

[BigJ]

I was under the impression that the imprint made on the cartridge extracted from the shotgun was what ballistics used.

 

[jlee]

Primer / firing pin comparison, I would think.. (assuming they had the casing)

 

[Conky]

You can't match the shot to the shotgun.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Crazyfool
You can't match the shot to the shotgun.

Shells.. just like any other firearm.. you n00bs

 

[altonb1]

Why? Planning to shoot someone?

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Crazyfool
You can't match the shot to the shotgun.

Shells.. just like any other firearm.. you n00bs

How do you kill someone with a shell?

 

[PowerMacG5]

Originally posted by: CadetLee
Primer / firing pin comparison, I would think.. (assuming they had the casing)

What he said. Basically, if you plan on killing someone with a shotgun, don't eject the cartridge.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5

Originally posted by: CadetLee
Primer / firing pin comparison, I would think.. (assuming they had the casing)

What he said. Basically, if you plan on killing someone with a shotgun, don't eject the cartridge.

Basically, if you plan on killing someone with any firearm.. clean up the casings, and destroy the weapon as well.

 

[PowerMacG5]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5

Originally posted by: CadetLee
Primer / firing pin comparison, I would think.. (assuming they had the casing)

What he said. Basically, if you plan on killing someone with a shotgun, don't eject the cartridge.

Basically, if you plan on killing someone with any firearm.. clean up the casings, and destroy the weapon as well.

True, but the bullet could still be lodged in the person, in which case if they ever found your barrel, they could fingerprint it.

People have tried all sorts of things to destroy guns (putting them in a bucket filled with concrete, and sinking it), but someone always manages to find it, and match the barrel to the bullet.

EDIT: By fingerprint, I mean match the bullet to the rifle barrel.

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5

Originally posted by: CadetLee
Primer / firing pin comparison, I would think.. (assuming they had the casing)

What he said. Basically, if you plan on killing someone with a shotgun, don't eject the cartridge.

Basically, if you plan on killing someone with any firearm.. clean up the casings, and destroy the weapon as well.

You can't tie a shotgun to shot. You get rid of the spent shells and there is no evidence that couldn't be tied to any other shotgun of the same gauge.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5

Originally posted by: CadetLee
Primer / firing pin comparison, I would think.. (assuming they had the casing)

What he said. Basically, if you plan on killing someone with a shotgun, don't eject the cartridge.

Basically, if you plan on killing someone with any firearm.. clean up the casings, and destroy the weapon as well.

True, but the bullet could still be lodged in the person, in which case if they ever found your barrel, they could fingerprint it.

People have tried all sorts of things to destroy guns (putting them in a bucket filled with concrete, and sinking it), but someone always manages to find it, and match the barrel to the bullet.

EDIT: By fingerprint, I mean match the bullet to the rifle barrel.

If you had access to certain resources, you may be able to melt the weapon down.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: BigJ

If you had access to certain resources, you may be able to melt the weapon down.

Easiest way.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5

Originally posted by: CadetLee
Primer / firing pin comparison, I would think.. (assuming they had the casing)

What he said. Basically, if you plan on killing someone with a shotgun, don't eject the cartridge.

Basically, if you plan on killing someone with any firearm.. clean up the casings, and destroy the weapon as well.

True, but the bullet could still be lodged in the person, in which case if they ever found your barrel, they could fingerprint it.

People have tried all sorts of things to destroy guns (putting them in a bucket filled with concrete, and sinking it), but someone always manages to find it, and match the barrel to the bullet.

EDIT: By fingerprint, I mean match the bullet to the rifle barrel.

Corrosive acid or file the barrel would take care of that though wouldn't it? IF you change the markings they could not be matched.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5

Originally posted by: CadetLee
Primer / firing pin comparison, I would think.. (assuming they had the casing)

What he said. Basically, if you plan on killing someone with a shotgun, don't eject the cartridge.

Basically, if you plan on killing someone with any firearm.. clean up the casings, and destroy the weapon as well.

True, but the bullet could still be lodged in the person, in which case if they ever found your barrel, they could fingerprint it.

People have tried all sorts of things to destroy guns (putting them in a bucket filled with concrete, and sinking it), but someone always manages to find it, and match the barrel to the bullet.

EDIT: By fingerprint, I mean match the bullet to the rifle barrel.

Corrosive acid or file the barrel would take care of that though wouldn't it? IF you change the markings they could not be matched.

You're going to have A LOT of explaining to do if the police investigate and find you with a weapon with a filed down barrel or with corrosion from acid.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5

Originally posted by: CadetLee
Primer / firing pin comparison, I would think.. (assuming they had the casing)

What he said. Basically, if you plan on killing someone with a shotgun, don't eject the cartridge.

Basically, if you plan on killing someone with any firearm.. clean up the casings, and destroy the weapon as well.

True, but the bullet could still be lodged in the person, in which case if they ever found your barrel, they could fingerprint it.

People have tried all sorts of things to destroy guns (putting them in a bucket filled with concrete, and sinking it), but someone always manages to find it, and match the barrel to the bullet.

EDIT: By fingerprint, I mean match the bullet to the rifle barrel.

Corrosive acid or file the barrel would take care of that though wouldn't it? IF you change the markings they could not be matched.

Welder, maybe?

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5

Originally posted by: CadetLee
Primer / firing pin comparison, I would think.. (assuming they had the casing)

What he said. Basically, if you plan on killing someone with a shotgun, don't eject the cartridge.

Basically, if you plan on killing someone with any firearm.. clean up the casings, and destroy the weapon as well.

True, but the bullet could still be lodged in the person, in which case if they ever found your barrel, they could fingerprint it.

People have tried all sorts of things to destroy guns (putting them in a bucket filled with concrete, and sinking it), but someone always manages to find it, and match the barrel to the bullet.

EDIT: By fingerprint, I mean match the bullet to the rifle barrel.

Corrosive acid or file the barrel would take care of that though wouldn't it? IF you change the markings they could not be matched.

You're going to have A LOT of explaining to do if the police investigate and find you with a weapon with a filed down barrel or with corrosion from acid.

True, but its better than hard evidence that matches the gun 100%

 

[Specop 007]

This is why God made reamers and steel rods.