Gunmen take over Ramadi as bomb kills five marines

BBond

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This has been one of the bloodiest weeks of violence in the over two years since Bush made the mistake of lying to America and the world to justify his unprovoked aggression against Iraq.

This is such a heavy price to pay for one man's lies. Why isn't Bush paying any price at all?

Gunmen take over Ramadi as bomb kills five marines

Rory Carroll in Baghdad and Osama Mansour in Ramadi
Friday June 17, 2005
The Guardian

Insurgents have taken over much of the Iraqi city of Ramadi and used it to launch attacks against US forces while terrorising the population with public beheadings.

A huge bomb killed five American marines yesterday and showered body parts on to rooftops, fuelling suspicion that armour-piercing technology is being developed and tested in Ramadi.

US troops recovered the remains and withdrew to their base outside the Arab Sunni stronghold, leaving masked gunmen to erect checkpoints and carry out what residents said was the latest of many executions.

A man described as an Egyptian spy was beheaded and his body dumped on a busy shopping street. Warned by the killers to leave it for five days, shoppers pretended not to notice the figure in the brown robe, its head resting on its back.

Four days ago two suspected Shia militiamen were beheaded in the marketplace in full view of traders, said a senior police officer who asked not to be identified. Two boys played football with one of the heads, he added.

Ramadi, 70 miles west of Baghdad, became an insurgent citadel soon after Saddam Hussein's regime fell two years ago. US and Iraqi forces claimed to have quelled it in February during Operation River Blitz, a sweep through restive towns and cities in Anbar province.

Falluja, 40 miles east of Ramadi, has been largely quiet since an offensive last November pushed much of the civilian population as well as rebels out of the city.

US forces tightly control movement to and from Falluja. But in other towns and cities in Anbar the guerrillas returned after the Americans withdrew and swept aside weak or non-existent Iraqi forces.

Americans have been forced to mount a fresh offensive in the northern town of Tal Afar.

They may soon do so in Ramadi: it was clear yesterday nobody was fully in charge. American troops guarded two bridges outside the city and every few entered the town in armoured Humvees. Each time streets emptied, leaving the convoy to patrol in near silence. Once it passed, people ventured outdoors again, including men in scarves and masks who wielded knives, assault rifles and rocket launchers.

Two cars with about 10 men set up checkpoints during the day, stopping and questioning anyone deemed suspicious. Several people were taken away, their fate unclear.

Civil and tribal leaders, including Sheikh Harith al-Dari, a spokesman for Sunni Arabs, had scheduled a meeting in the main mosque to discuss political developments in Baghdad. But insurgents cancelled the meeting, saying informal contacts with American and Iraqi officials had achieved nothing.

Residents said they were frightened of the insurgents but most dreaded a US-led offensive similar to that which flattened Falluja. They said the rebels were Iraqi Sunnis, not foreign Islamist radicals.

The Sunni minority, privileged under Saddam, bitterly resents the US presence and the political ascendance of Shias and Kurds.

An American sailor was shot dead in the city on Wednesday, hours before the five marines were killed. Witnesses said the bomb detonated at 2am yesterday just after a convoy crossed a bridge.

All Humvees are now armoured but there is suspicion that insurgents have learned to make "shape charges" which narrow the force of blasts to penetrate armour. Children played with the vehicle's charred debris.

Brigadier General Donald Alston, a coalition spokesman, played down the violence.

"I would not consider the situation in Ramadi to be anything extraordinary at this time," he said. "We continue to put pressure on the insurgency in all parts of Iraq, including Ramadi."

Residents said that in reprisal for their losses US troops fired grenades at a minibus as it crossed the bridge at 6am yesterday.

Eight girls and women died and a Jordanian man was injured, said hospital staff. It was not possible to verify the account. A US military spokesman said he had heard no such reports.

Elsewhere in the country, a suicide bomber killed at least eight police commandos and injured 25 when he rammed their truck in Baghdad.

In the northern city of Mosul US soldiers captured Muhammad Khalaf Shakar, who they said was the most trusted lieutenant of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the leader of al-Qaida in Iraq. Shakar, also known as Abu Talha, reportedly wore a suicide vest 24 hours a day to avoid capture but when cornered in a hideout gave up without a fight, said US officials.

Meanwhile a US army sergeant has been charged with the premeditated murder of two US officers at a military base near Tikrit.

Staff Sergeant Alberto Martinez, of the 42nd infantry division, was charged over the deaths last week of two officers, Captain Phillip Esposito and Lieutenant Louis Allen.

The deaths were initially attributed to a mortar blast.
 

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BBond releases another 'I love American troops' article. Clearly indicating that he loves a body count and relishes the fact that one of his terrorist buddies 'got a couple of those cowboys'.

Oh, wait, BBond claims to support the troops - yet for some odd reason, not their cause...
 

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Originally posted by: irwincur
BBond releases another 'I love American troops' article. Clearly indicating that he loves a body count and relishes the fact that one of his terrorist buddies 'got a couple of those cowboys'.

Oh, wait, BBond claims to support the troops - yet for some odd reason, not their cause...

Not long ago, the commanding general of the US Army Reserve stated that at the current tempo, the Reserve would become a broken force. I think that was before the battle in Falluja. Have you seen the recruiting stories lately? In order for the US Marines and Army to attack Fallujah, the British army had to send troops to the Baghdad area to free up US troops. Every city that gets Fallujahed ties up more troops to keep it secure. Ramadi is about the size of Fallujah. Mosul is bigger than the two combined. Tal Afar population is 200,000. Go look up all the other urban centers in Iraq and do the math.

The socalled leadership at the Pentagon and White House are now learning first hand why Saddam Hussein earned his reputation. Saddam Hussen mantained a much larger army in Iraq than the US. Supporting the troops would entail doubling their numbers in Iraq or, getting them out of there as soon as possible.

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: irwincur
BBond releases another 'I love American troops' article. Clearly indicating that he loves a body count and relishes the fact that one of his terrorist buddies 'got a couple of those cowboys'.

Oh, wait, BBond claims to support the troops - yet for some odd reason, not their cause...
Nice Spin "Irwin"
 

maluckey

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More innaccurate and biased postings. I find it hard to even read the Guardian, but I do to see what the crazies are reading.

If CNN is biased to Liberals, and Fox is openly biased to Conservatives, where is the Guardian again?? Partisan sympathy is all I can find when Iraq is concerned. No fact checks, no U.S. contacts, many inside insurgent contacts. PROPAGANDA.

I too agree that BBond seems to delight every time a U.S. policy fails, or a soldier dies. The reasons why this is so, I don't pretend to know. I venture that hate blinds reason in most cases.
 

Steeplerot

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cnn is liberal biased lol...

ever thought it is becasue you are so far gone into the far right you have lost sight of middle road reality the rest of the world shares...nope guess not.

It's all a big communist conspiracy... right? The whole world against you poor neocons. *yawn*
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: maluckey
More innaccurate and biased postings. I find it hard to even read the Guardian, but I do to see what the crazies are reading.

If CNN is biased to Liberals, and Fox is openly biased to Conservatives, where is the Guardian again?? Partisan sympathy is all I can find when Iraq is concerned. No fact checks, no U.S. contacts, many inside insurgent contacts. PROPAGANDA.

I too agree that BBond seems to delight every time a U.S. policy fails, or a soldier dies. The reasons why this is so, I don't pretend to know. I venture that hate blinds reason in most cases.

You continue to excuse the scum who are responsible for the criminally incompetent lack of planning and the lies that are the cause of U.S. policy failures and over 1,700 U.S. soldiers' deaths (not to mention 100,000 innocent Iraqi civilians) and you have the NERVE to accuse ME of taking delight every time a U.S. policy fails, or a soldier dies?

It is YOU who are responsible for every life lost, every city destroyed, every terrorist created because YOU support the people who created this carnage ALL BASED ON A PACK OF GODDAM LIES.
 

MadRat

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Calm down. Iraq was a mistake, the American people feel lied to about it. Its already a foregone conclusion.

But in order to stablize Iraq now you pretty much have to keep the Turks and Sunnis in check. They are undermining the Kurds and that will only create more chaos. The Shiites were never a unified people contrary to popular belief and there is no way to unify them because ancient bloodlines run their pecking order. The Sunnis on the other hand have came to qualms with the modern era and are more like us than either the Shiites or the Kurds. If it hadn't been for the phony reasons to start the war we'd probably supported the Sunnis to maintain stability after removing Saddam. Just another leap before they look venture by Bush's team.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: irwincur
BBond releases another 'I love American troops' article. Clearly indicating that he loves a body count and relishes the fact that one of his terrorist buddies 'got a couple of those cowboys'.

Oh, wait, BBond claims to support the troops - yet for some odd reason, not their cause...
Nice Spin "Irwin"

As opposed to the trolling spin of the OP? Hmm...

CsG
 

maluckey

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Steeplerot

Perhaps you are not paying attention to current events and don't realize that most media outlets are now open about their bias so that the viewer can make an intelligent choice. Fox news is now openly admitting it. While CNN is slow about it, it doesn't deny that it is liberally biased. I know of zero unbiased news sources and I read many. Even the CSM and RAND are biased. It is virtuall impossible to not be biased and be a reporter or investigative journalist. It's like being a cop, your personal bias decides how agressively you pursue a certain case.

It's about time for truth in journalism. It was never a secret exept to those with blinders.