Gun/muzzle flash question

[slackerinabox]

So I shot a short film on sunday and need to add a muzzle flash to this gun shot.. The only problem is I'm not exactly sure what it would look like since the gun is right against the actor's head - any ideas?

Thanks!

http://www.shallowwastebin.com...emp/SharksShotDay2.mov

It's a little graphic so may not be work safe..

 

[Howard]

If it's right against the skin, there shouldn't be much of a flash... Of course, I haven't been in a situation like that, so I wouldn't know for sure.

 

[slackerinabox]

thanks, so a little flash would work or none at all?

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
thanks, so a little flash would work or none at all?

some smoke would be good.

 

[dmurray14]

thats gross...but um, how did you do the blood thing?

 

[slackerinabox]

Oh, we just killed the actor... He was pissing me off anyways

 

[Pliablemoose]

Small flash & a little smoke.

 

[Psycho18]

I like it when the brains splattered all over the garage thingy.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Small flash & a little smoke.

Like this

 

[imported_Pablo]

The brains came from the side...

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: Howard
If it's right against the skin, there shouldn't be much of a flash... Of course, I haven't been in a situation like that, so I wouldn't know for sure.

Do you want to be?

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

oh and REPOST

 

[MercenaryForHire]

If you want to "improve the realism" let's talk "reaction of the victim." He shouldn't slump back forwards - he's supposed to be dead. When the gun is "fired" just have him jerk his head back, then go limp.

Is this supposed to be an execution or something? If so, turn him around and do a "back of the head" - easier to have him slam facefirst into an out-of-angle pillow, and it's easier to do makeup magic for the entrance wound when there's hair in the way.

- M4H

 

[gUEv]

LOL...nice slate

mainly what kills it is the actor...i know its just a daily we are watching, but he is obviously anticipating the "shot" way too much. The "brains" appear (to me) to be flying up from the bottom too much (which i assume is the source). What did you use to do that anyways?

Also the gunshot sound effect sucks and sounds cheap, sorry D:


I mainly wanted to post just to say PowerMac4Ever has the best sig...evar, although I might have to challenge your claim to "#1 Hater" at least on this forum. I know I have a postcount disadvantage, but I believe I hate just as much, if not more.

 

[yobarman]

after effects my friend. after effects.

 

[bootymac]

The shooter obviously has aim bot; no recoil!!

 

[biggiesmallz]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
oh and REPOST

Get a life

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Howard
If it's right against the skin, there shouldn't be much of a flash... Of course, I haven't been in a situation like that, so I wouldn't know for sure.

Do you want to be?

Not particularly. If you have something to say, just come out and say it. Stop pussyfooting around.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
oh and REPOST

It isn't.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
If you want to "improve the realism" let's talk "reaction of the victim." He shouldn't slump back forwards - he's supposed to be dead. When the gun is "fired" just have him jerk his head back, then go limp.

Is this supposed to be an execution or something? If so, turn him around and do a "back of the head" - easier to have him slam facefirst into an out-of-angle pillow, and it's easier to do makeup magic for the entrance wound when there's hair in the way.

- M4H

Correct. Even IF the bullet did not penetrate through the skull, the kinetic energy of the bullet wouldn't make the head fly backward so much, if at all.

I could do the math (m1*v1 = m2 *v2 assuming 100% energy transfer, which is impossible unless the bullet lodges inside the head), but I'm just too lazy.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: yobarman
after effects my friend. after effects.

Combustion and/or Shake, my friend.

 

[slackerinabox]

Never heard of shake... Is it a pc or mac product?

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Never heard of shake... Is it a pc or mac product?

Used to be both, but Apple bought the company, so now it is just Mac and Linux. Other than the custom compositing apps that some sfx houses develop for internal use, Shake is the best, hands down.

 

[tranceport]

You might want to add a bullet hole to the guys forehead after the bullet passes through it..
Also I can see you bag of brain matter right before it starts to spray good. Also I see the brain matter pour out before spraying out. I think it should spray along the bullet path first. Pour out while the guy is going towards the shooter and falling.

The flash should sing hair and have smoke.


Edit: After actually reading some more of the thread.. M4H has a good point about execution style and back of the head magic. Also I agree the victim would not go back then forward.