Gun Ban fails in Brazil

[OFFascist]

Since I dont see anyone talking about it I figured I might aswell post something.

Apparently the vote to ban the sale of guns and ammunition in Brazil failed by something like 64% against and 36% for.

Here's a link.
http://www.nynewsday.com/news/printedit...,6207685.story?coll=ny-worldnews-print

 

[Steeplerot]

With bush and friends running the show up north would you want to be disarmed?

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
With bush and friends running the show up north would you want to be disarmed?

That was quick.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
With bush and friends running the show up north would you want to be disarmed?

That was quick.

Like a machine I tell you like a machine! Feed it any kind of input and the output will give you the proper way to bring Bush into the equation.

 

[Steeplerot]

It is in south americas best interest as the rest of the world to be prepared for anything when it comes to the us nowdays.

They have already shown they have no respect for truth or international law.

A rouge nation that hold sway over the last superpower on a cowboy trip is bad news.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
It is in south americas best interest as the rest of the world to be prepared for anything when it comes to the us nowdays.

I heard the United States was waiting for this law to be passed so they could sieze the moment and steal the Amazon from the world. Now they are onto plan B which is to get you!

Run from the boogeyman while you still can!

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
It is in south americas best interest as the rest of the world to be prepared for anything when it comes to the us nowdays.

I heard the United States was waiting for this law to be passed so they could sieze the moment and steal the Amazon from the world. Now they are onto plan B which is to get you!

Run from the boogeyman while you still can!

I am sure the Iraqis would find you sideslappingly funny.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

As heard on NPR . . .

the ban was ahead handily and then the Brazilian gun nuts started touting the violation of their right to bear arms. Curiously, no such right exists in the Brazilian constitution but that's a minor detail.

The ban was proposed b/c Brazil has 35k gun deaths each year . . . roughly comparable to the US . . . despite the fact we have a much larger population.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
It is in south americas best interest as the rest of the world to be prepared for anything when it comes to the us nowdays.

I heard the United States was waiting for this law to be passed so they could sieze the moment and steal the Amazon from the world. Now they are onto plan B which is to get you!

Run from the boogeyman while you still can!

I am sure the Iraqis would find you sideslappingly funny.

Oh now we are onto Iraq? Let see if you can come up with an original thought or just down your list of talking points from this mornings moveon.org's email spam.

 

[imported_tss4]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
It is in south americas best interest as the rest of the world to be prepared for anything when it comes to the us nowdays.

They have already shown they have no respect for truth or international law.

A rouge nation that hold sway over the last superpower on a cowboy trip is bad news.

That is such BS. You (and I) may not neccarily agree with the reasons for going to war in Iraq, but there were some very obvious forces that pushed us towards an invasion and it didn't take a rocket scientist to see it coming years ahead of time. Now, how have we demonstrated that we are going to invade Brazil? Complete political propoganda. The point was Brazilians decided to keep their right to own firearms. It was conducted democratically and they ge to live with the benefits and consequences of thier choice.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
With bush and friends running the show up north would you want to be disarmed?

That was quick.

some say practice makes perfect, for others its just a natural talent

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
It is in south americas best interest as the rest of the world to be prepared for anything when it comes to the us nowdays.

They have already shown they have no respect for truth or international law.

A rouge nation that hold sway over the last superpower on a cowboy trip is bad news.

That is such BS. You (and I) may not neccarily agree with the reasons for going to war in Iraq, but there were some very obvious forces that pushed us towards an invasion and it didn't take a rocket scientist to see it coming years ahead of time. Now, how have we demonstrated that we are going to invade Brazil? Complete political propoganda. The point was Brazilians decided to keep their right to own firearms. It was conducted democratically and they ge to live with the benefits and consequences of thier choice.

I would go read up a bit about the new bases and swaths of land being bought in brazil latley, I did not pull that out of my ass. There were actually some marines landed there recently and it is making s. america pretty nervous.

Nothing illegal, granted they did give permission for bush to do so, (years ago) but still.

The admin has shown they have no qualms about supporting coups in the area.

 

[imported_tss4]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
It is in south americas best interest as the rest of the world to be prepared for anything when it comes to the us nowdays.

They have already shown they have no respect for truth or international law.

A rouge nation that hold sway over the last superpower on a cowboy trip is bad news.

That is such BS. You (and I) may not neccarily agree with the reasons for going to war in Iraq, but there were some very obvious forces that pushed us towards an invasion and it didn't take a rocket scientist to see it coming years ahead of time. Now, how have we demonstrated that we are going to invade Brazil? Complete political propoganda. The point was Brazilians decided to keep their right to own firearms. It was conducted democratically and they ge to live with the benefits and consequences of thier choice.

I would go read up a bit about the new bases and swaths of land being bought in brazil latley, I did not pull that out of my ass. There were actually some marines landed there recently and it is making s. america pretty nervous.

Nothing illegal, granted they did give permission for bush to do so, (years ago) but still.

The admin has shown they have no qualms about supporting coups in the area.

We have bases all over the world. Are they worried about an invasion in Germany? We have bases there.

Like you said, nothing illegal. How many of your little theories come true by the way? The invasion of Brazil makes absolutely no sense for us to do!

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
It is in south americas best interest as the rest of the world to be prepared for anything when it comes to the us nowdays.

They have already shown they have no respect for truth or international law.

A rouge nation that hold sway over the last superpower on a cowboy trip is bad news.

That is such BS. You (and I) may not neccarily agree with the reasons for going to war in Iraq, but there were some very obvious forces that pushed us towards an invasion and it didn't take a rocket scientist to see it coming years ahead of time. Now, how have we demonstrated that we are going to invade Brazil? Complete political propoganda. The point was Brazilians decided to keep their right to own firearms. It was conducted democratically and they ge to live with the benefits and consequences of thier choice.

I would go read up a bit about the new bases and swaths of land being bought in brazil latley, I did not pull that out of my ass. There were actually some marines landed there recently and it is making s. america pretty nervous.

Nothing illegal, granted they did give permission for bush to do so, (years ago) but still.

The admin has shown they have no qualms about supporting coups in the area.

Supporting a coup in a communist country like Nicaragua is a little different than in a country like Brazil who owes a lot of money to the IMF.

But why dont you provide us with links to the planning stages of our invasion of Brazil so we can take a glimpse into your world.

 

[Steeplerot]

regardless, why the sudden buildup? I wouldnt want the us in my country either.

Besides the fact that the us has shown no regard to respect for soverignty of other nations the soldiers now have a reputation for being a awfully cruel and dangerous group.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
regardless, why the sudden buildup? I wouldnt want the us in my country either.

Besides the fact that the us has shown no regard to respect for soverignty of other nations the soldiers now have a reputation for being a awfully cruel and dangerous group.

I dont know, you havent provided any kind of proof of this buildup for the invasion of Brazil that you speak about. How are we supposed to answer your question about a "sudden" buildup when you havent even shown us one has happened?

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
It is in south americas best interest as the rest of the world to be prepared for anything when it comes to the us nowdays.

They have already shown they have no respect for truth or international law.

A rouge nation that hold sway over the last superpower on a cowboy trip is bad news.

That is such BS. You (and I) may not neccarily agree with the reasons for going to war in Iraq, but there were some very obvious forces that pushed us towards an invasion and it didn't take a rocket scientist to see it coming years ahead of time. Now, how have we demonstrated that we are going to invade Brazil? Complete political propoganda. The point was Brazilians decided to keep their right to own firearms. It was conducted democratically and they ge to live with the benefits and consequences of thier choice.

I would go read up a bit about the new bases and swaths of land being bought in brazil latley, I did not pull that out of my ass. There were actually some marines landed there recently and it is making s. america pretty nervous.

Nothing illegal, granted they did give permission for bush to do so, (years ago) but still.

The admin has shown they have no qualms about supporting coups in the area.

Supporting a coup in a communist country like Nicaragua is a little different than in a country like Brazil who owes a lot of money to the IMF.

But why dont you provide us with links to the planning stages of our invasion of Brazil so we can take a glimpse into your world.

Not a invasion of brazil, but more terror training camps most likley or staging areas for anti-chavez guerillas. You know, good old american meddling in south america. (this is a guess from me I actually do not know why except to go on our track record)

 

[OFFascist]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
As heard on NPR . . .

the ban was ahead handily and then the Brazilian gun nuts started touting the violation of their right to bear arms. Curiously, no such right exists in the Brazilian constitution but that's a minor detail.

The ban was proposed b/c Brazil has 35k gun deaths each year . . . roughly comparable to the US . . . despite the fact we have a much larger population.

Are you just repeating what you heard on NPR, or is this also your opinion?

I dont know the specifics about Brazil's constitution however many would argue, and I do aswell that every human being has the inalienable right to self defense, and the right to keep and bear arms is just an extension of that.

Rights dont exist just because something is or is not written on a piece of paper.

As for all the gun deaths thats easy. Even in the US there are places with far more gun deaths than others, and it has nothing to do with the ammount of guns in those areas. It has everything to do with poverty and the so called war on drugs.

If we ever ended this modern prohobition known as the war on drugs crime would definately decrease.

All kinds of prohibitions are failures. Be it on Alcohol, Drugs, or Firearms.

 

[IronWing]

Nicaragua also owed a lot of money to the IMF. The Sandinistas chose to repay the debts even though the loans were made to and looted by the Somosa regime. I think an invasion of Brazil is highly unlikely because we're getting everything we want from them anyway. Why steal the rainforest if you're already getting the cow for free?

 

[imported_tss4]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
regardless, why the sudden buildup? I wouldnt want the us in my country either.

Besides the fact that the us has shown no regard to respect for soverignty of other nations the soldiers now have a reputation for being a awfully cruel and dangerous group.

cruel and dangerous group, eh? What a joke.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
It is in south americas best interest as the rest of the world to be prepared for anything when it comes to the us nowdays.

They have already shown they have no respect for truth or international law.

A rouge nation that hold sway over the last superpower on a cowboy trip is bad news.

That is such BS. You (and I) may not neccarily agree with the reasons for going to war in Iraq, but there were some very obvious forces that pushed us towards an invasion and it didn't take a rocket scientist to see it coming years ahead of time. Now, how have we demonstrated that we are going to invade Brazil? Complete political propoganda. The point was Brazilians decided to keep their right to own firearms. It was conducted democratically and they ge to live with the benefits and consequences of thier choice.

I would go read up a bit about the new bases and swaths of land being bought in brazil latley, I did not pull that out of my ass. There were actually some marines landed there recently and it is making s. america pretty nervous.

Nothing illegal, granted they did give permission for bush to do so, (years ago) but still.

The admin has shown they have no qualms about supporting coups in the area.

Supporting a coup in a communist country like Nicaragua is a little different than in a country like Brazil who owes a lot of money to the IMF.

But why dont you provide us with links to the planning stages of our invasion of Brazil so we can take a glimpse into your world.

Not a invasion of brazil, but more terror training camps most likley or staging areas for anti-chavez guerillas. You know, good old american meddling in south america.

I think Richard Hayden said it best "Sputtering our sentence fragments and lighting things on fire".

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
regardless, why the sudden buildup? I wouldnt want the us in my country either.

Besides the fact that the us has shown no regard to respect for soverignty of other nations the soldiers now have a reputation for being a awfully cruel and dangerous group.

cruel and dangerous group, eh? What a joke.

You think ANYONE wants these guys in their country?

no, the world is very concerned and we are now a pariah.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
regardless, why the sudden buildup? I wouldnt want the us in my country either.

Besides the fact that the us has shown no regard to respect for soverignty of other nations the soldiers now have a reputation for being a awfully cruel and dangerous group.

cruel and dangerous group, eh? What a joke.

You think ANYONE wants these guys in their country?

Yes because we all know if there are few bad apples it is proof that every apple is bad.
The logic of a child on display, everybody please take note.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
regardless, why the sudden buildup? I wouldnt want the us in my country either.

Besides the fact that the us has shown no regard to respect for soverignty of other nations the soldiers now have a reputation for being a awfully cruel and dangerous group.

cruel and dangerous group, eh? What a joke.

You think ANYONE wants these guys in their country?

Yes because we all know if there are few bad apples it is proof that every apple is bad.
The logic of a child on display, everybody please take note.

A few bad apples may make you sleep easy but it is no excuse for anyone but apologists like you.

It reflects on our armed forces and is burned into the minds of the citizens of the world now. And will be for a LONG time.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
regardless, why the sudden buildup? I wouldnt want the us in my country either.

Besides the fact that the us has shown no regard to respect for soverignty of other nations the soldiers now have a reputation for being a awfully cruel and dangerous group.

cruel and dangerous group, eh? What a joke.

You think ANYONE wants these guys in their country?

Yes because we all know if there are few bad apples it is proof that every apple is bad.
The logic of a child on display, everybody please take note.

A few bad apples may make you sleep easy but it is no excuse for anyone but apologists like you.

Who is making excuses for those acts in this thread? You made a claim and backed it up with the logic of a child.

It reflects on our armed forces and is burned into the minds of the citizens of the world now. And will be for a LONG time.

So is Nagasaki