Guitar Guys of ATOT

[Crescent13]

A couple questions...

1. I just bought a Roland Microcube (limited red edition ), and I'm loving it right now! My Acoustic/Electric Alvarez RD8C sounds awesome on it but gets some feedback (becuase it's acoustic/electric). I'm looking for a soundhole plug, but I don't have a clue as to what is good and what is bad. Any reccomendations?

2. My grandpa is sending me a custom acoustic bass of his with a pickup installed (he has something 10x better and he doesn't need it anymore), and I WAS planning on running this on the microcube too until the guy at the guitar store said "If you run a bass on a regular guitar amp it'll blow the speaker". Now I would have believed this without a second thought however my friend was using his austin bass on another microcube for a church gig and it sounded just fine . Do any of you know if it's healthy to run a bass on the microcube? Also, my grandpa told me that if you run this guitar (the one he's sending) on an amp above 15w, it'll blow it? ???? Do you have any idea as to what he's talking about and what this means?



I'm just beginning guitar (been playing for 2 months, after 7+ years of piano, I'm 14) and want to learn as much as I can about it. Do you guys have any idea as to the answers to theese questions?

 

[Jpark]

The soundhole pickup I'm not much help on, they're all about the same as far as I'm concerned. Get whatever is in your price range if all you're doing is bedroom jamming.

As for playing a bass through a guitar amp/speaker, DON'T DO IT, unless that amp is made for bass and guitar. Guitar speakers are not made for bass to be ran through. (I play bass)

 

[Crescent13]

Originally posted by: Jpark
The soundhole pickup I'm not much help on, they're all about the same as far as I'm concerned. Get whatever is in your price range if all you're doing is bedroom jamming.

As for playing a bass through a guitar amp/speaker, DON'T DO IT, unless that amp is made for bass and guitar. Guitar speakers are not made for bass to be ran through. (I play bass)

thanks! I'm gonna be doing bedroom jamming, and playing at church (20x30ft or larger room).

:thumbsup:! Thanks for telling me this before I plugged the bass in my new cube.

 

[BoldAsLove]

i play my bass in my guitar amp....no problems.

 

[StevenYoo]

Originally posted by: BoldAsLove
i play my bass in my guitar amp....no problems.

YMMV

 

[Crescent13]

Originally posted by: BoldAsLove
i play my bass in my guitar amp....no problems.

thanks for confusing me again

 

[Fritzo]

::flies in with red cape and big G on his chest::

You called for help citizen?

Anyway, you made a good amp choice. Now, it sounds like you're looking for a soundhole pickup. You'll probably want something like THIS for ease of installation and decent sound. It just claps onto the sound hole underneath the strings.

You're probably getting feedback because you're too close to the amp and have the gain all the way up. Back off the gain and get back a few feet. If you're still getting feedback after that, turn the volume on your guitar down and use the gain/volume on the amp to compensate.

As for using a bass on this amp, you could, but I wouldn't go very loud. Bass amps have some heavy duty reinforcement to the speaker cones to handle the rumbling and you will blow it if you crank it up.

 

[Jpark]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
::flies in with red cape and big G on his chest::

You called for help citizen?

Anyway, you made a good amp choice. Now, it sounds like you're looking for a soundhole pickup. You'll probably want something like THIS for ease of installation and decent sound. It just claps onto the sound hole underneath the strings.

You're probably getting feedback because you're too close to the amp and have the gain all the way up. Back off the gain and get back a few feet. If you're still getting feedback after that, turn the volume on your guitar down and use the gain/volume on the amp to compensate.

As for using a bass on this amp, you could, but I wouldn't go very loud. Bass amps have some heavy duty reinforcement to the speaker cones to handle the rumbling and you will blow it if you crank it up.

:thumbsup:

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
::flies in with red cape and big G on his chest::

As for using a bass on this amp, you could, but I wouldn't go very loud. Bass amps have some heavy duty reinforcement to the speaker cones to handle the rumbling and you will blow it if you crank it up.

Actually it's probably the fact that the drivers in bass amps get more power and excurse (I think that's a word) more than the drivers in guitar amps. AFAIK bass drivers usually fail when the spider/coil former glue joint separates or the coil melts. The cone almost never tears or separates from the surround.

 

[Crescent13]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
::flies in with red cape and big G on his chest::

You called for help citizen?

Anyway, you made a good amp choice. Now, it sounds like you're looking for a soundhole pickup. You'll probably want something like THIS for ease of installation and decent sound. It just claps onto the sound hole underneath the strings.

You're probably getting feedback because you're too close to the amp and have the gain all the way up. Back off the gain and get back a few feet. If you're still getting feedback after that, turn the volume on your guitar down and use the gain/volume on the amp to compensate.

As for using a bass on this amp, you could, but I wouldn't go very loud. Bass amps have some heavy duty reinforcement to the speaker cones to handle the rumbling and you will blow it if you crank it up.

lol .

No actually I want a soundhole PLUG. To stop the amp sound from getting in the guitar when I use it plugged in, and causing feedback. The guitar has a pickup built in.

Thanks for the tips on stopping feedback.

Ok, so it's safe to use it, just not too loud, correct?

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Fritzo
::flies in with red cape and big G on his chest::

As for using a bass on this amp, you could, but I wouldn't go very loud. Bass amps have some heavy duty reinforcement to the speaker cones to handle the rumbling and you will blow it if you crank it up.

Actually it's probably the fact that the drivers in bass amps get more power and excurse (I think that's a word) more than the drivers in guitar amps. AFAIK bass drivers usually fail when the spider/coil former glue joint separates or the coil melts. The cone almost never tears or separates from the surround.

I dumbed the explaination down a bit, but yes, soldier points on bass cabs melt all the time.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: Crescent13

Originally posted by: Fritzo
::flies in with red cape and big G on his chest::

You called for help citizen?

Anyway, you made a good amp choice. Now, it sounds like you're looking for a soundhole pickup. You'll probably want something like THIS for ease of installation and decent sound. It just claps onto the sound hole underneath the strings.

You're probably getting feedback because you're too close to the amp and have the gain all the way up. Back off the gain and get back a few feet. If you're still getting feedback after that, turn the volume on your guitar down and use the gain/volume on the amp to compensate.

As for using a bass on this amp, you could, but I wouldn't go very loud. Bass amps have some heavy duty reinforcement to the speaker cones to handle the rumbling and you will blow it if you crank it up.

lol .

No actually I want a soundhole PLUG. To stop the amp sound from getting in the guitar when I use it plugged in, and causing feedback. The guitar has a pickup built in.

Thanks for the tips on stopping feedback.

Ok, so it's safe to use it, just not too loud, correct?

You want this.[
Just don't crank the amp trying to play too loud. you 'll be fine

 

[Crescent13]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: Crescent13

Originally posted by: Fritzo
::flies in with red cape and big G on his chest::

You called for help citizen?

Anyway, you made a good amp choice. Now, it sounds like you're looking for a soundhole pickup. You'll probably want something like THIS for ease of installation and decent sound. It just claps onto the sound hole underneath the strings.

You're probably getting feedback because you're too close to the amp and have the gain all the way up. Back off the gain and get back a few feet. If you're still getting feedback after that, turn the volume on your guitar down and use the gain/volume on the amp to compensate.

As for using a bass on this amp, you could, but I wouldn't go very loud. Bass amps have some heavy duty reinforcement to the speaker cones to handle the rumbling and you will blow it if you crank it up.

lol .

No actually I want a soundhole PLUG. To stop the amp sound from getting in the guitar when I use it plugged in, and causing feedback. The guitar has a pickup built in.

Thanks for the tips on stopping feedback.

Ok, so it's safe to use it, just not too loud, correct?

You want this.[
Just don't crank the amp trying to play too loud. you 'll be fine

that one has crappy reviews though...

 

[Fritzo]

lol .

No actually I want a soundhole PLUG. To stop the amp sound from getting in the guitar when I use it plugged in, and causing feedback. The guitar has a pickup built in.

Thanks for the tips on stopping feedback.

Ok, so it's safe to use it, just not too loud, correct?

Ohhh....I misunderstood. I normally use thinline pickups, so I don't have this problem. I've never actually used a soundhole cover, but try my amp tips first and see if they work.

And yes, you can use your bass on your amp, just don't put much volume on it.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: Crescent13

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: Crescent13

Originally posted by: Fritzo
::flies in with red cape and big G on his chest::

You called for help citizen?

Anyway, you made a good amp choice. Now, it sounds like you're looking for a soundhole pickup. You'll probably want something like THIS for ease of installation and decent sound. It just claps onto the sound hole underneath the strings.

You're probably getting feedback because you're too close to the amp and have the gain all the way up. Back off the gain and get back a few feet. If you're still getting feedback after that, turn the volume on your guitar down and use the gain/volume on the amp to compensate.

As for using a bass on this amp, you could, but I wouldn't go very loud. Bass amps have some heavy duty reinforcement to the speaker cones to handle the rumbling and you will blow it if you crank it up.

lol .

No actually I want a soundhole PLUG. To stop the amp sound from getting in the guitar when I use it plugged in, and causing feedback. The guitar has a pickup built in.

Thanks for the tips on stopping feedback.

Ok, so it's safe to use it, just not too loud, correct?

You want this.[
Just don't crank the amp trying to play too loud. you 'll be fine

that one has crappy reviews though...

Well, if you let other people make up your mind for you....
All you're trying to do is dampen the resonance of the acoustic guitar's cavity. The Dean Markley one smells of snake oil to me. There is no reason to "let the cavity breathe" if you're trying to prevent feedback. That "breatheing" is the cause of the intreaction the results in acoustic feedback.
You could simply stuff the cavity with foam. The negative reviews mostly deal wiith the trim to fit feature.
I've always had reasonably good success with the plain old rubber plug model, no "tinuing" or fancy BS.

 

[Crescent13]

Thanks everyone

 

[Crescent13]

Allrighty, finally found a good soundhole cover. It's amazing all the expensive crap that's out there when all you need is a rubber plug, no fancy wood carvings, no holes for breathing, and no plastic thing with adjustable sound, just a solid rubber plug. Oh well here it is. I think I'll buy this, although I know it probalby won't be a 100% fix (because even solid-body guitars get feedback), it'll help a ton. Once I get it I'm gonna try some distortion with the gain at 10 .