Guinness Bourbon Barrel Imperial Stout worth it?

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Saylick

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"bourbon barrel" beers are for people that like neither beer nor whiskey.

fuck that noise.
This. In my experience, a good beer does not need any kind of "fancy" aging or maturing in barrels to be good. It's totally unnecessary and plain ol' stupid if you put in what could be a fine beer, in its own right, into a barrel or cask. One of the worst beers I've ever had was a beer that was aged in tequila barrels. After that experience, I've never had high expectations for beers that come out of a barrel.
 

nakedfrog

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You posers probably don't even LIKE whiskey, good whiskey does not need any kind of "fancy" aging or maturing in barrels to be good.


See how stupid that sounds? That's how you sound right now.
 

WelshBloke

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If Guinness is the only beer I like, what are other good stouts that can match it?

The Guinness in cans with those plastic balls or what not, that are supposed to make it a bit more draughty, are not bad. Obviously it's much better poured fresh, but the cans are good.

What else should I try? Have multiple liquor stores around here that have very good selections. I've tried a couple other stouts that just didn't feel as thick or dense as a Guinness, which I didn't like

Sam Smith makes good stouts. From UK, and a little spendy, but good.

Yeah, Samuel Smiths oatmeal stout would probably suit your taste. It's not too dark and bitter but it's got a fair bit of depth.
 

JEDI

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If Guinness is the only beer I like, what are other good stouts that can match it?

The Guinness in cans with those plastic balls or what not, that are supposed to make it a bit more draughty, are not bad. Obviously it's much better poured fresh, but the cans are good.

What else should I try? Have multiple liquor stores around here that have very good selections. I've tried a couple other stouts that just didn't feel as thick or dense as a Guinness, which I didn't like
Jesus peanut butter stout
 

JEDI

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Sam Smith makes good stouts. From UK, and a little spendy, but good.
my costco currently sells blueberry oatmeal stout.
4-16oz for $12

ehh.. almost double the price of Guinness (4-15.9oz for $7)
 

sdifox

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If Guinness is the only beer I like, what are other good stouts that can match it?

The Guinness in cans with those plastic balls or what not, that are supposed to make it a bit more draughty, are not bad. Obviously it's much better poured fresh, but the cans are good.

What else should I try? Have multiple liquor stores around here that have very good selections. I've tried a couple other stouts that just didn't feel as thick or dense as a Guinness, which I didn't like
 

WelshBloke

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I'm not sure that someone who likes a nitro can of Guinness is necessarily going to enjoy a 15% ABV bourbon barrel aged imperial stout!
 
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Denly

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This. In my experience, a good beer does not need any kind of "fancy" aging or maturing in barrels to be good. It's totally unnecessary and plain ol' stupid if you put in what could be a fine beer, in its own right, into a barrel or cask. One of the worst beers I've ever had was a beer that was aged in tequila barrels. After that experience, I've never had high expectations for beers that come out of a barrel.

Wine barrel age saison/farmhouse ale is to die for if make right, Innis&Gunn also decent for a mass whisky barrel beer.
 

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JEDI

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Looks like 12 bux for 500cc. That's more than wine lol.
yeah, my favorite wine is a Cabernet $6.50 for 750mL (25oz)
if the beer costs more than that per oz, i'll buy the wine instead
 

nakedfrog

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Wine barrel age saison/farmhouse ale is to die for if make right, Innis&Gunn also decent for a mass whisky barrel beer.
I guess it makes sense that someone into saison/farmhouse ale would like it in wine barrels, I don't like them one bit.
I found the Innis & Gunn very lacking, won't buy again.
$13 for a 16.9oz bottle.

for a SINGLE bottle?!
Heh.
Dogfish Head World Wide Stout is $35 for 12oz, but is actually WORTH the money. That Goose Island is absolutely not worth it, IMO.
 

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If Guinness is the only beer I like, what are other good stouts that can match it?

The Guinness in cans with those plastic balls or what not, that are supposed to make it a bit more draughty, are not bad. Obviously it's much better poured fresh, but the cans are good.

What else should I try? Have multiple liquor stores around here that have very good selections. I've tried a couple other stouts that just didn't feel as thick or dense as a Guinness, which I didn't like


Murphy's Irish Stout is pretty good. It was also a bit cheaper than a 4-pack of Guinness.
 
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VashHT

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Looks like 12 bux for 500cc. That's more than wine lol.
That's only for the regular one, the reserve ones and variants are over $20 easily. I have a whole closet full of bourbon country stouts from the past 8 years or so, I still have a bottle or two from 2013.
 

nakedfrog

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That's only for the regular one, the reserve ones and variants are over $20 easily. I have a whole closet full of bourbon country stouts from the past 8 years or so, I still have a bottle or two from 2013.
Aged, I might have different opinions, once I'm set up for aging beer at the new house, I'm willing to give it a go.
 

VashHT

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Aged, I might have different opinions, once I'm set up for aging beer at the new house, I'm willing to give it a go.
Yeah I would say BCS usually needs a bit to age or it can taste pretty boozey. I've always liked the bourbon country barleywine better than the stout but they haven't done that in a few years (the coffee barleywine wasn't as good imo), I wish they did the coffee stout still as well that was prolly my favorite variant.

Nowadays though everyone does barrel aged beers so bourbon county isn't that special, personally I prefer the stuff from Revolution or Firestone walker, which i also have a bunch of sitting in my beer closet.
 

nakedfrog

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I'm still angry with Firestone Walker for discontinuing Wookey Jack :mad:

Edit: wait, they're bringing it back?!? I must find it!
 
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MrSquished

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Went to the better little liquor store by me, the other one is dumpy. But I pass them both walking the dog.

While their refrigerated section is tiny, they did have 4 packs of Guinness foreign extra stout, along with the nitro cans, the bottled draught stout and the bottled regular extra stout. I picked up the foreign extra stout. It's pretty good. Even though it's more bitter than the draught version, it's still good. I will go to the big liquor store near me that's the size of a supermarket, the refrigerated section is massive and half is dedicated to more crafty beers, the rest the more mainstream commercial beers. I will try to find the thicker richer creamier stouts that were suggested here.
 

sdifox

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Went to the better little liquor store by me, the other one is dumpy. But I pass them both walking the dog.

While their refrigerated section is tiny, they did have 4 packs of Guinness foreign extra stout, along with the nitro cans, the bottled draught stout and the bottled regular extra stout. I picked up the foreign extra stout. It's pretty good. Even though it's more bitter than the draught version, it's still good. I will go to the big liquor store near me that's the size of a supermarket, the refrigerated section is massive and half is dedicated to more crafty beers, the rest the more mainstream commercial beers. I will try to find the thicker richer creamier stouts that were suggested here.


My local LCBO has a walk in fridge, with automatic sliding doors ...
 

nakedfrog

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My local LCBO has a walk in fridge, with automatic sliding doors ...
Unless it's a hot summer day, I generally prefer to just look through the glass doors and open one when I see something interesting.
 

MrSquished

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Unless it's a hot summer day, I generally prefer to just look through the glass doors and open one when I see something interesting.

Yeah the AC in the store works really well, I'd rather be in there than in an actual fridge browsing product.

The commercial beer section is actually basically just a giant fridge - behind the product for the consumers to take from when opening the doors, is all their backup stock and kegs, so they can easily re-stock and not even go into the store aisles.
 

DigDog

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Britain has a brewery whose favourite sport is to find the best beer they produce and then discontinue it.

R.I.P.
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R.I.P.
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both of these were absolutely marvellous; Champion was so good, i think it was discontinued because it's illegal to be that good.
 

zinfamous

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He whines like a mule if a stout is over like 6% ABV, IIRC.

wat? Not really. I like Imperial Stouts. Most beers I drink are rarely less than 7% or so, anyway. It's true that a "real stout" doesn't really get above 5.5% or so, but I like all versions. Whiskey stouts are just...gauche and for Youtube longhair types. :D

I've had a few sours aged in Sauvignon barrels, and that's appropriate for the style and delicious!