Guards take away Prisoner's D&D game

Manchimp

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They feel it promotes gang activity...

http://www.insidebayarea.com/weird-news/ci_14265049

MADISON, Wis. — A man serving life in prison for first-degree intentional homicide lost his legal battle today to play Dungeons & Dragons behind bars.
Kevin T. Singer filed a federal lawsuit against officials at Wisconsin's Waupun prison, arguing that a policy banning all Dungeons & Dragons material violated his free speech and due process rights.
Prison officials instigated the Dungeons & Dragons ban among concerns that playing the game promoted gang-related activity and was a threat to security. Singer challenged the ban but the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Monday upheld it as a reasonable policy.
Dungeons & Dragons players create fictional characters and carry out their adventures, often working together as a group, with the help of complicated rules.
Singer, 33, has been a devoted player of the fantasy role-playing game since he was a child, according to the court ruling. After the ban went into effect, prison officials confiscated dozens of Dungeons & Dragons books and magazines in his cell as well as a 96-page manuscript he had written detailing a potential scenario for the game that players could act out.
Prison officials enacted the ban in 2004 after an inmate sent an anonymous letter expressing concern about Singer and three other inmates forming a "gang" focused around playing the game.
Singer was told by prison officials that he could not keep the materials because Dungeons & Dragons "promotes fantasy role playing, competitive hostility, violence, addictive escape behaviors, and possible gambling," according to the ruling. The prison later developed a more comprehensive policy against all types of fantasy games, the court said.

The appeals court said the prison's policy was reasonable and did not violate Singer's rights.
"After all, punishment is a fundamental aspect of imprisonment, and prisons may choose to punish inmates by preventing them from participating in some of their favorite recreations," the court said.
Singer was sentenced to life in prison in 2002 after being found guilty of first-degree intentional homicide in the killing of his sister's boyfriend. The man was bludgeoned to death with a sledgehammer. D:
Department of Corrections spokesman John Dipko said the department was pleased with the decision and will continue to enforce rules that are designed to maintain a safe environment.
Singer's court-appointed attorney, W.C. Turner Herbert of North Carolina, also did not immediately return a message seeking comment.


I like the one of the comments that asked if the sledgehammer was enchanted...:biggrin:
 
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pontifex

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D&D promotes gang????

a group of people hanging out together could be considered a gang. it would be like in the prison movies how you got all the skinheads in a prison gang. it sounds ridiculous but I can see where they are going with it.
 

Fritzo

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Don't want them trying to escape with LIGHTNING BOLT LIGHTNING BOLT!
 

acheron

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Guilds and shit dude... gotta keep an eye on them clerics...

well, sure. this guy was probably a cleric, after all. If I remember right, clerics can't use edged weapons, no wonder he used a sledgehammer.
 

bignateyk

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Maybe he shouldn't have killed someone if he wants the freedom to do whatever he wants with his free time.
 
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That's just cruel. Probably the one thing the guys got to live for. They are just being spiteful.

Yeah he shouldn't of killed a guy but do we have to sink to that level as well?
 

bignateyk

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That's just cruel. Probably the one thing the guys got to live for. They are just being spiteful.

Yeah he shouldn't of killed a guy but do we have to sink to that level as well?

I don't think taking away dungeons and dragons is on the same level as killing someone. Going to prison isn't supposed to be fun.

I'm surprised the guy didn't get his ass beat, and then cornholed by the other prisoners for playing the game to begin with.
 

gorcorps

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I don't think taking away dungeons and dragons is on the same level as killing someone. Going to prison isn't supposed to be fun.

I'm surprised the guy didn't get his ass beat, and then cornholed by the other prisoners for playing the game to begin with.

Exactly. Prison is not for fun and games, it's for punishment. IMO they just needed a BS reason to take it away, as too many people would bitch if they had no reason.
 

MrPickins

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Good call.

They were obviously leveling up Rogue so they have an easier roll to pick their cell locks.
 

lxskllr

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Exactly. Prison is not for fun and games, it's for punishment. IMO they just needed a BS reason to take it away, as too many people would bitch if they had no reason.

Yea, because I was totally going strong arm an armed delivery truck, and shoot the escort until I found I couldn't play DD in prison :^S
 
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I don't think taking away dungeons and dragons is on the same level as killing someone. Going to prison isn't supposed to be fun.

I'm surprised the guy didn't get his ass beat, and then cornholed by the other prisoners for playing the game to begin with.

I agree prison shouldn't be fun. They have already taken everything else from him. How about a little compassion and let the guy play his board game? He is human.
 

acheron

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They're not taking away other games, just D&D. So it's not a "no fun for you" thing.