GTX260 @ 1.1Ghz

Hauk

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Holy crap that's impressive, and 2205 on the shaders!

I wonder what a 240 shader model could do with the same or better power design. Damn nice coolers MSI is putting on those cards. Quality appears to rival Thermalright or similar.

Was looking at the MSI product page, interesting real world memory usage scenario found here. Take a look at the resource usage on the 896mb cards to the right, then look at the resource usage for the 1792mb version on the left. 1920 x 1200 & view distance maxed = 1564mb usage..
 

Hauk

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I was curious if that oc was achieved by means other than the stock cooler. Looks like it was:

"The stock cooler of the N260GTX however, was excluded from this feat. The HWBot record reveals that the graphics card was cooled using a liquid-nitrogen (LN2) cooler." source
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: Hauk
Was looking at the MSI product page, interesting real world memory usage scenario found here. Take a look at the resource usage on the 896mb cards to the right, then look at the resource usage for the 1792mb version on the left. 1920 x 1200 & view distance maxed = 1564mb usage..
GTA4 is rather a special case as it was designed around consoles which ran with what are medium quality textures on the PC, and at less than a quarter of the full draw distance available on the PC, and of course far lower resolution. Most PC games won't use nearly that much VRAM regardless of what settings you run them at.

Also, the screenshots on the lower part of the page aren't representative of the differences in setups either, but rather the "LOW effects" shot looks like the texture resolution has been turned down to medium and the optional blur filter wasn't turned off. If they had wanted to show the actual difference in view distance the settings show, they would have needed to use shots with a far longer view, from a helicopter would have been best.

That said, it looks like very nice card, and extra VRAM doesn't hurt.
 

crazylegs

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Out of interest whats the highest speed achieved on an ATI/AMD card using similar cooling, i.e. L2N ?
 

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Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
Originally posted by: crazylegs
Out of interest whats the highest speed achieved on an ATI/AMD card using similar cooling, i.e. L2N ?

This thread was posted a few days ago, 4890 @ 1.35GHz. Personally I don't care how fast any video card goes on liquid nitrogen, but whatever makes people happy I guess.


Ahh thanks - must have missed that.

4890 @ 1.35Ghz... ''wow imagine what a die shrink can do for this core.''


On a serious note - i completely agree L2N OCs are pointless from a real world scenario, just good for e-peen and i suppose pretty kool fun for the ppl doing it :)
 

Red Storm

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4890s clocked at that same speed on air cooling are more impressive. :p

Still, overclocking is always fun regardless of what's being overclocked. :D
 

crazylegs

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Originally posted by: Red Storm
4890s clocked at that same speed on air cooling are more impressive. :p

Still, overclocking is always fun regardless of what's being overclocked. :D


haha - good point, wonder if Wreckage will change the topic name to:

'260 needs L2N to reach 4890 air speeds'
 

Fox5

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Originally posted by: Hauk
Holy crap that's impressive, and 2205 on the shaders!

I wonder what a 240 shader model could do with the same or better power design. Damn nice coolers MSI is putting on those cards. Quality appears to rival Thermalright or similar.

Was looking at the MSI product page, interesting real world memory usage scenario found here. Take a look at the resource usage on the 896mb cards to the right, then look at the resource usage for the 1792mb version on the left. 1920 x 1200 & view distance maxed = 1564mb usage..

That's kind of wasteful, considering you can't even see that far. I get the impression a view distance of 100 just about caches the entire city into memory.
I've played with the GTA4 slider settings, and I can't notice much of a difference.
Kind of annoying that my 1GB card cannot max out settings though, and that GTA4 will use all of the memory.
But GTA4 also scales all shaders and shadows to the same resolution as the output res (most games won't do this) making it quite the memory/performance hog at higher resolutions.
 

Idontcare

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Originally posted by: crazylegs
Originally posted by: Red Storm
4890s clocked at that same speed on air cooling are more impressive. :p

Still, overclocking is always fun regardless of what's being overclocked. :D


haha - good point, wonder if Wreckage will change the topic name to:

'260 needs L2N to reach 4890 air speeds'

How are the clockspeeds of a 4890 relevant to that achieved with a GTX260?

In spring of 2006 did it matter that a Pentium4 achieved 3.8GHz while an X2 topped out at 2.4GHz?

Lots of trolling in this thread imo.
 

Red Storm

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Originally posted by: Idontcare
How are the clockspeeds of a 4890 relevant to that achieved with a GTX260?

In spring of 2006 did it matter that a Pentium4 achieved 3.8GHz while an X2 topped out at 2.4GHz?

Lots of trolling in this thread imo.

If the smiles weren't enough to show you that I was joking, then I don't know what else to do. :)
 

Hauk

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Originally posted by: Red Storm
Originally posted by: Idontcare
How are the clockspeeds of a 4890 relevant to that achieved with a GTX260?

In spring of 2006 did it matter that a Pentium4 achieved 3.8GHz while an X2 topped out at 2.4GHz?

Lots of trolling in this thread imo.

If the smiles weren't enough to show you that I was joking, then I don't know what else to do. :)

Naw your comments were fine. More likely directed towards this bait: "Out of interest whats the highest speed achieved on an ATI/AMD card using similar cooling, i.e. L2N ?"

If it wasn't Wreckage posting the info, maybe the bait/thread derailment attempt wouldn't be so blatant. Who knows. But a GT200 getting to such high clocks is a story in itself. What competitive solutions can do is irrelevant..
 

Hauk

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Originally posted by: Fox5
Originally posted by: Hauk
Holy crap that's impressive, and 2205 on the shaders!

I wonder what a 240 shader model could do with the same or better power design. Damn nice coolers MSI is putting on those cards. Quality appears to rival Thermalright or similar.

Was looking at the MSI product page, interesting real world memory usage scenario found here. Take a look at the resource usage on the 896mb cards to the right, then look at the resource usage for the 1792mb version on the left. 1920 x 1200 & view distance maxed = 1564mb usage..

That's kind of wasteful, considering you can't even see that far. I get the impression a view distance of 100 just about caches the entire city into memory.
I've played with the GTA4 slider settings, and I can't notice much of a difference.
Kind of annoying that my 1GB card cannot max out settings though, and that GTA4 will use all of the memory.
But GTA4 also scales all shaders and shadows to the same resolution as the output res (most games won't do this) making it quite the memory/performance hog at higher resolutions.

Good comments. It's just one game, but this time next year we'll probably be looking at 1GB cards as inadequately as we do 512mb cards now. Gimme 2GB dx11 monsters.. :D

 

crazylegs

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Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: crazylegs
Originally posted by: Red Storm
4890s clocked at that same speed on air cooling are more impressive. :p

Still, overclocking is always fun regardless of what's being overclocked. :D


haha - good point, wonder if Wreckage will change the topic name to:

'260 needs L2N to reach 4890 air speeds'

How are the clockspeeds of a 4890 relevant to that achieved with a GTX260?

In spring of 2006 did it matter that a Pentium4 achieved 3.8GHz while an X2 topped out at 2.4GHz?

Lots of trolling in this thread imo.


Hrmm mayb, however i was being mostly sarcastic (i do that too often, its probably a UK thing tbh) and from frustration at the irrelevancy of the OPs comment, regarding a die shrink. Going from previous threads where Wreckage noted somehting along the lines of 'ATI/AMD being dead' without new architecture and yet NV will apparently be fine with a die shrink, just because they can pass 1Ghz on L2N?

Also lacking to mention that the OC was achieved using L2N was nice and helpful, should expect nothing less though :)
 

Idontcare

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Originally posted by: Red Storm
Originally posted by: Idontcare
How are the clockspeeds of a 4890 relevant to that achieved with a GTX260?

In spring of 2006 did it matter that a Pentium4 achieved 3.8GHz while an X2 topped out at 2.4GHz?

Lots of trolling in this thread imo.

If the smiles weren't enough to show you that I was joking, then I don't know what else to do. :)

Wasn't directed at your post, apologies for giving you the wrong impression and putting you in a position of feeling like your post needed defending.

Originally posted by: crazylegs
Hrmm mayb, however i was being mostly sarcastic (i do that too often, its probably a UK thing tbh) and from frustration at the irrelevancy of the OPs comment, regarding a die shrink. Going from previous threads where Wreckage noted somehting along the lines of 'ATI/AMD being dead' without new architecture and yet NV will apparently be fine with a die shrink, just because they can pass 1Ghz on L2N?

Also lacking to mention that the OC was achieved using L2N was nice and helpful, should expect nothing less though :)

It's cool, yeah I didn't get the sarcasm, my bad. Have a good weekend :beer:
 

crazylegs

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Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: Red Storm
Originally posted by: Idontcare
How are the clockspeeds of a 4890 relevant to that achieved with a GTX260?

In spring of 2006 did it matter that a Pentium4 achieved 3.8GHz while an X2 topped out at 2.4GHz?

Lots of trolling in this thread imo.

If the smiles weren't enough to show you that I was joking, then I don't know what else to do. :)

Wasn't directed at your post, apologies for giving you the wrong impression and putting you in a position of feeling like your post needed defending.

Originally posted by: crazylegs
Hrmm mayb, however i was being mostly sarcastic (i do that too often, its probably a UK thing tbh) and from frustration at the irrelevancy of the OPs comment, regarding a die shrink. Going from previous threads where Wreckage noted somehting along the lines of 'ATI/AMD being dead' without new architecture and yet NV will apparently be fine with a die shrink, just because they can pass 1Ghz on L2N?

Also lacking to mention that the OC was achieved using L2N was nice and helpful, should expect nothing less though :)

It's cool, yeah I didn't get the sarcasm, my bad. Have a good weekend :beer:

Nps and you :) Should be out running instead of trawling my fave forums if it wasnt for our awesome British weather (more sarcasm) 100% cloud cover and heavy rain in July! At lest i have the cricket to listen to :)