GTX 980 Ti HP pre-built system for 1100? Worth it?

thedummy

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Hi, I have been reading these forums for a long time. I have a question so I registered.

I am not sure if this should go in the deals forum, or the Pre-built system forums, but a lot of the best posters post on this forum so I am putting it here. Moderators, please move if this is not OK here.

There's this deal with an HP Envy 750 prebuilt desktop that allows you a 980 Ti, 4790K, 12GB of RAM (no SSD), for around 1100.

http://slickdeals.net/f/8256759-hp-...936-after-90-rebate-free-s-h?src=SiteSearchV2

Would you say this is worth it? Concerns over the 500W PSU and motherboard quality?

A couple of reasons (other than price) why I think this is a good deal (for me):
1) I think this system has a better sale value than a similarly priced custom build (with say a 970/290 and i7 6700K). The 970 will drop a lot in price next year (but so will a 980Ti). However since 980Ti is much more valuable than the 970 if I sell the system later I still think it will be worth more than a custom built one.
2) Why 1) is a reason: Originally I wanted to get a gaming laptop but with 14nm coming next year any 970m laptop will be left behind pretty quickly. My plan would be to buy this desktop, and hope to recoup a good amount in 12-14 months towards the purchase of mobile Pascal/Arctic Islands.

Thanks.
 

richaron

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No price checks allowed; per forum rules.

Research it yourself by building hypothetical systems, and/or you could look in general hardware and see if you can find the cost of a similar systems.
 
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Magic Carpet

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Welcome to the forums. 980 Ti is a great card, no matter what. Forget about 970/etc. Seems like a good deal, if you don't mind the acoustics during heavy loads, go for it :cool:
 
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FFL

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I was just curious and checked: if the 30% rebate code and the additional 90$ slickdeals rebatte is applied, ~1100 is indeed possible for this config: 980 Ti, 4790K, 12GB of RAM (no SSD),
I think its a good deal. For that price, it will be almost impossible to build a system by yourself.
Just add an SSD yourself, and this system can serve you for a long time.
 

Majcric

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I would check and make sure that GTX 980ti is the real deal. What I mean is OEM builds used to receive cards of the same name, yet be cut down. Maybe they no longer do this I'm not sure.

Otherwise, looks like a pretty good deal OP
 

b-mac

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I would check and make sure that GTX 980ti is the real deal. What I mean is OEM builds used to receive cards of the same name, yet be cut down. Maybe they no longer do this I'm not sure.

Otherwise, looks like a pretty good deal OP

I saw someone on reddit called customer support and they said it was a 980ti but a single fan variant. Take that for what its worth.
 

Magic Carpet

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I saw someone on reddit called customer support and they said it was a 980ti but a single fan variant. Take that for what its worth.
It's a reference design. Like I said, if you don't mind the acoustics.

During full-on gaming, the GTX 980 Ti is very audible as its noise output slightly exceeds that of the Titan X. Our Titan X sample runs its fan at 48% (=2300 RPM) and the GTX 980 Ti runs the fan at 50% (= 2380 RPM). Here the GTX 980 Ti is again too noisy, not following the trend. Sorry, this is not 2013 anymore, and NVIDIA's own fantastic efficiency improvements brought forth this age of super-quiet high-end gaming cards with such exemplary products as the ASUS GTX 980 STRIX and MSI GTX 980 Gaming; the GTX 980 Ti is not one of them. To me, it looks as though the cooler is a bit too weak to handle the heat, so NVIDIA had to turn up the fans. I do have high hopes for custom-board designs, which should definitely reduce noise levels.
 
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Lyfer

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If that is a truely a 980 TI, that is a smoking deal. Just add a good cheap SSD and you are set.
 

Insomniator

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Its an awesome deal, the only concern is the 500W PSU but even if it was an issue... its an HP with a warranty. These kind of specs in an ibuypowerpc or any other one of those prebuilts would be $1500+.

It would be tough to get these components together for 1100, and then you have to build it yourself and have zero warranty on anything that goes wrong. Not everyone's cup of tea.
 

Headfoot

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It seems much like the 290 situation. The reference blower can't handle the 980 Ti heat either, like on the reference 290, and so the reference model card is getting devalued in comparison to the vastly superior aftermarket models. That's probably why they let this thing go for so cheap (plus the fact that its based off of a sitewide deal coupon). Still a very solid deal.
 

MrTeal

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Its an awesome deal, the only concern is the 500W PSU but even if it was an issue... its an HP with a warranty. These kind of specs in an ibuypowerpc or any other one of those prebuilts would be $1500+.

It would be tough to get these components together for 1100, and then you have to build it yourself and have zero warranty on anything that goes wrong. Not everyone's cup of tea.

Yeah, just a 4790/MB/RAM/980Ti would be over $1000. You're basically getting the 980Ti for the $700 upgrade price (which isn't a terrible markup for an upgrade) and then getting 30% off it. That's a good price even without the Slickdeals rebate.
 

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It seems much like the 290 situation. The reference blower can't handle the 980 Ti heat either, like on the reference 290, and so the reference model card is getting devalued in comparison to the vastly superior aftermarket models. That's probably why they let this thing go for so cheap (plus the fact that its based off of a sitewide deal coupon). Still a very solid deal.

The reference blower on the r9 290 got into the 90's with louder fan noise. The reference 980 TI blower keeps the card at or below 83.
 

thedummy

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Thanks guys!

I am fine with some noise.

A follow up question: will a Skylake equivalent be worth $50 more?
 

Insomniator

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Thanks guys!

I am fine with some noise.

A follow up question: will a Skylake equivalent be worth $50 more?

The Skylake also comes with DDR4 right? For $50 its a no brainer to me... even if performance were equal I'd take the newer platform for that much. 50 bucks is less than a 5% price increase.
 

Insomniator

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Also, while obviously a gaming laptop has its advantages... in this case the 980TI is just such a ridiculously powered GPU that its hard to turn it down for the same price. A 970/960m laptop is completely meager in comparison. 980TI is 3-4x faster. Hell buy the desktop and a shield tablet to play on it mobile lol.
 

Insomniator

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Also there is a $90 rebate available at slickdeals. They got a 4790 w/980TI down to $936 which almost makes me want to sell my current computer and buy that.
 

RussianSensation

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Thanks guys!

I am fine with some noise.

A follow up question: will a Skylake equivalent be worth $50 more?

Yes, if you can get the i7 6700 for $50-100 more, get that. As others mentioned, there is also a rebate that makes this deal even sweeter.
 

Headfoot

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The reference blower on the r9 290 got into the 90's with louder fan noise. The reference 980 TI blower keeps the card at or below 83.

Because it throttles.... The actual temp limit is controlled by throttling these days. You can mod the temperature point to whatever you want. It doesn't keep it at 83 because its better, it keeps it at 83 because the GPU reduces output along with increased fan speed to keep the temperature at 83. The bottom line is the 980 Ti reference cooler is insufficient and loud in the same way the 290 reference cooler was, but a little better. They're both pretty crap.
 

jeffbui

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Looks like 980ti isn't an option anymore. Skylake 6700k, 16GB RAM, 980ti for $1150 was an amazing deal