gtx 980 or fury for 1440p ?

[you2]

For a game machine these days driving a 27 inch monitor (1440p) is there much of a difference between gtx 980 and fury; or just pick the one that is cheaper at time of purchase?
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I'm pretty happy if the frame rate is between 40 and 60 for most games and the machine is stable (no crashes/lock up due to bad video drivers). I've been using 7950 (amd) for a couple of years and it isn't bad.

Currently on widows 7 home undecided if I will upgrade to windows 10.

 

[tential]

Whichever is cheaper pick that option as there is no touch difference between the two. Currently for me the gtx 980 is cheaper and has better cheap models.
The fury though, if you're willing to risk it may unlock to a fury x.

Depends on pricing for you but I see gtx 980s that come with a game that are 100 less than a fury and for me that's an obvious no Brainer

I'm a hd7950 current owner if that matters

 

[monkeydelmagico]

I went from 7950 to 780 specifically for 1440. It really depends on what you play. There is a bit of difference between Fury and 980 but I don't think it's enough to justify the price.

Don't forget to look at 390x too

 

[tviceman]

I recommend a $450-$480 gtx 980 over $550-570 Fury. If you don't overclock, then flip coin between the GTX 980 and a $410-430 R9 390x. If you do overclock, then get a GTX 980.

Also, the 980 comes with a AAA game that you can sell for ~$20 if you don't want it.

 

[railven]

If you're looking at a $560+ card, @1440p I'd eat ramen for a week or two and upgrade to a Fury X/980 Ti.

But that's me personally.

 

[Eymar]

Unless Fury is $500 at time of purchase I would not consider it. I would follow tviceman's advice, especially if you plan to overclock. Video benchmarks of Fury/980/390x at stock speeds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBp4ANrX8rk

 

[Azix]

You're safer with a fury if you look at the history of nvidias *80 cards. If you can't get the Ti, don't get the 980. it's already degrading compared to 290x/390x (coulda sworn these cards never looked like they were in the same category a year ago). The 980 can be oc-ed if you get one and manage over or close to 1500Mhz. at under or close to $500 and with OC it's worth looking at.

you also have to look at each brand of the cards. Only two Fury cards, very solid but limited options.

AMDs cards tend to get relatively better at higher resolutions so again you would be safer with a Fury when more demanding games come along.

 

[Hitman928]

Fury is overpriced right now, IMO. It's a great card and a better performer than the 980, but not worth the extra money over a 390x/980. The 980 tends to overclock really well and the 390x tends to overclock well also but will use more power.

The Fury has been shown to have a high success rate (from what I've seen) with unlocking CUs to get performance closer to a Fury X (most have been able to get half of the disabled units back) which does add to its value, but still not worth it, IMO, but may be enough to push some to get it. If you want the best perf/$, get the 390x and accept the higher power draw. If power draw is a big priority, get the 980. If you can still find a good deal on a 290x, get that as it will save you even more money.

 

[Azix]

Fury is overpriced right now, IMO. It's a great card and a better performer than the 980, but not worth the extra money over a 390x/980. The 980 tends to overclock really well and the 390x tends to overclock well also but will use more power.

The Fury has been shown to have a high success rate (from what I've seen) with unlocking CUs to get performance closer to a Fury X (most have been able to get half of the disabled units back) which does add to its value, but still not worth it, IMO, but may be enough to push some to get it. If you want the best perf/$, get the 390x and accept the higher power draw. If power draw is a big priority, get the 980. If you can still find a good deal on a 290x, get that as it will save you even more money.

How would that not be worth it? An unlocked Fury is certainly worth it over a 980. You guys are selling the card way too short. Its not $200 or even $100 more than the 980. Its newer, faster, likely will be solid for years to come. What happens when the bandwidth on the 980 becomes a serious limitation at higher resolutions? Especially considering the two companies are headed to much more VRAM bandwidth.

390x is good depending on budget but if the budget is around $550 then pay the $50 - $70 insurance I say. If your budget is below $500 then a 980 would be your best bet for now. Also if you have no issue changing the card next year a 980 would be safe

 

[tential]

Id drop down op and get a r9 390 or step up to the gtx 980ti.

Fury is a bad choice. Gtx 980 is less of a bad choice. The performance per dollar king r9 390 is my favorite choice but if you're willing to spend $570 on fury.... An extra $100 for a 980ti is so worth it. Or unlock the fury and hope for the best.

Also the 980 comes with a game, and they are under 500 on Newegg, fury is just a bad value.

You'll see people recommend the Fury OP, you'll never see them give you concrete numbers as to why. They'll just tell you to.

Fury is more expensive, less performance per dollar, and this is against a REFERENCE GTX 980. You can look at the golden R9 390 to see why I recommend that.

Overall performance

 

[tweakboy]

Grab the 980 Ti


Sell what you have and buy it. Go gang green. gb

 

[DustinBrowder]

I don't know where these [incorrect] numbers come from the GTX 980 being $450 or some absurd number like that, its pure lies!

The CHEAPEST GTX 980 at Newegg is $480 WITH rebate. The average price for the GTX 980 is $510.

So don't listen to the people spilling absurd numbers and telling fairytails! The Fury is about 12% faster at 1440p resolutions over the 980 and its over 20% faster at 4k resolutions.

The Fury costs on average $550, while the 980 costs $510 on average. For $40 more dollars you are getting 12% more performance at 1440p, 20% more performance at 4k, you are getting HBM memory and you are getting a more refined, higher quality card.

If you are looking of spending $400 dollars and want the best value then the R9 390x is the card for you.

The CHEAPEST r9 390x goes for $425 on newegg, while the average price is $430.

So if you are looking for the best performance go with the AMD Fury at $550, if you are looking for best bang for the buck go for the R9 390x for $430!!!


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-- stahlhart

 

[bystander36]

I don't know where these [incorrect] numbers come from the GTX 980 being $450 or some absurd number like that, its pure lies!

The CHEAPEST GTX 980 at Newegg is $480 WITH rebate. The average price for the GTX 980 is $510.

So don't listen to the people spilling absurd numbers and telling fairytails! The Fury is about 12% faster at 1440p resolutions over the 980 and its over 20% faster at 4k resolutions.

The Fury costs on average $550, while the 980 costs $510 on average. For $40 more dollars you are getting 12% more performance at 1440p, 20% more performance at 4k, you are getting HBM memory and you are getting a more refined, higher quality card.

If you are looking of spending $400 dollars and want the best value then the R9 390x is the card for you.

The CHEAPEST r9 390x goes for $425 on newegg, while the average price is $430.

So if you are looking for the best performance go with the AMD Fury at $550, if you are looking for best bang for the buck go for the R9 390x for $430!!!

Profanity isn't allowed in the technical forums.
-- stahlhart

Are you including factory OC cards into that equation, because I assure you, that there are some factory OC 980's that are OC'ed a lot higher than the Fury, due to how modest the reference clocks were.

 

[soccerballtux]

For a game machine these days driving a 27 inch monitor (1440p) is there much of a difference between gtx 980 and fury; or just pick the one that is cheaper at time of purchase?
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I'm pretty happy if the frame rate is between 40 and 60 for most games and the machine is stable (no crashes/lock up due to bad video drivers). I've been using 7950 (amd) for a couple of years and it isn't bad.

Currently on widows 7 home undecided if I will upgrade to windows 10.

sell me your 7950

 

[Azix]

The reason is that its faster. OP needs to give more of an idea of where his mind is, but I think not feeling sorry about a purchase is something to consider. It's why I wouldn't recommend a 390x or 390 if he is willing to spend the cash. Otherwise why even buy anything like a 980ti. One can always save money

If he Overclocks the fury its faster than most Overclocked 980s. I think its best to know you got the best for what you are willing to spend. More powerful cards also tend to age better

 

[RampantAndroid]

The reason is that its faster. OP needs to give more of an idea of where his mind is, but I think not feeling sorry about a purchase is something to consider. It's why I wouldn't recommend a 390x or 390 if he is willing to spend the cash. Otherwise why even buy anything like a 980ti. One can always save money

If he Overclocks the fury its faster than most Overclocked 980s. I think its best to know you got the best for what you are willing to spend. More powerful cards also tend to age better

Care to actually show proof of this? It seems pretty common to hit at least 1500MHz on a 980...

 

[soccerballtux]

Id drop down op and get a r9 390 or step up to the gtx 980ti.

Fury is a bad choice. Gtx 980 is less of a bad choice. The performance per dollar king r9 390 is my favorite choice but if you're willing to spend $570 on fury.... An extra $100 for a 980ti is so worth it. Or unlock the fury and hope for the best.

Also the 980 comes with a game, and they are under 500 on Newegg, fury is just a bad value.

You'll see people recommend the Fury OP, you'll never see them give you concrete numbers as to why. They'll just tell you to.

Fury is more expensive, less performance per dollar, and this is against a REFERENCE GTX 980. You can look at the golden R9 390 to see why I recommend that.

Overall performance

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[Azix]

Care to actually show proof of this? It seems pretty common to hit at least 1500MHz on a 980...

This same video thats been on here repeatedly...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BTpXQkFJMY

I should revise my no-OC recommendation. it seems that the 390x is trades with the 980 (probably reference) at 1440p. The 390x in that is only clocked at 1055Mhz though. Not really sure what would be the recommendation then.

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/84194-sapphire-radeon-r9-390x-tri-x/

My mind was blown seeing those charts. Though some sites have it differently.

 

[RampantAndroid]

I've watched that video before. Nowhere in there did I see the actual recommendation in the end being that a Fury OCed is faster than a 980 OCed. They traded blows, when the 980 costs less new...and comes with a game, which the Fury does not.

That Hexus review is using a *stock* 980. Not even a 980 that comes with a factory OC. But hey, who cares about comparing to the cards people will ACTUALLY be buying?

Reviews that include reference cards, unless you can only buy reference cards, are pretty much worthless.

 

[Carfax83]

Care to actually show proof of this? It seems pretty common to hit at least 1500MHz on a 980...

This is true. Both of my GTX 980 FTWs will hit 1500MHz and 8GHz on the memory at stock voltage..

The comparison that Tek Syndicate did between the overclocked GTX 980 and the overclocked R9 Fury was done with the GTX 980s core clock at 1500MHz, but as far as I know, there was no memory overclock which would have increased performance even more for the 980.

The scores were close, with the GTX 980 winning some (especially at 1080p) and the R9 Fury gaining the edge at 4K, which is what you'd expect considering it's massive bandwidth advantage.

All in all, I'd say go for the Fury for 1440p since it has more memory bandwidth and likely has more untapped performance that can be exposed by future driver updates.

 

[Azix]

I've watched that video before. Nowhere in there did I see the actual recommendation in the end being that a Fury OCed is faster than a 980 OCed. They traded blows, when the 980 costs less new...and comes with a game, which the Fury does not.

That Hexus review is using a *stock* 980. Not even a 980 that comes with a factory OC. But hey, who cares about comparing to the cards people will ACTUALLY be buying?

Reviews that include reference cards, unless you can only buy reference cards, are pretty much worthless.

I went ahead and compared their scores on a PNY GeForce GTX 980 OC2 with the 390x scores. they are about the same at 1440p. Most so far I think was 9 fps more. The 390x was at 1055Mhz.

It's not a simple matter finding reviews comparing factory OC cards to new cards. they usually just say "GTX 980" and you don't know which one.

Fury was faster in everything but witcher and the unreal engine game. At 4K at least. Closer at 1080p but 1440p should lean more towards the 4K standings. This is with near or beyond max OC for a lot of people.

No non-reference 980 that approaches 1500Mhz from the factory will be near $500.

 

[tential]

sell me your 7950

What are you willing to pay for one =D.

 

[RussianSensation]

For a game machine these days driving a 27 inch monitor (1440p) is there much of a difference between gtx 980 and fury; or just pick the one that is cheaper at time of purchase?

EVGA GTX980 for $375 with shipping. Has 1 year warranty, if purchased with Amex, get an extra 1 year warranty.

However, if paying $480+, get the Fury because it takes more or less a max overclocked 980 to match a stock Fury at 1440P on average unless you are playing mostly NV-favoured games like WOW, Project CARS and GameWorks titles. Otherwise, you are going to need to overclock the 980 to match a stock Fury at 1440P:

Another big bonus is the Sapphire Fury is quieter at load than a reference 980Ti is at idle which means you'd be hard pressed to find any 980 as quiet unless it's MSI Gaming 980. If silence is a priority, once again the Sapphire Fury wins.

Continued...

 

[RussianSensation]

Anyway, I would still get a B-Stock EVGA 980 for $375. Another possibility is you grab a B-Stock GTX970 or get a GTX970/290/390 and just resell that card and upgrade in 2016/early 2017 to 16nm HBM2 GPU. I personally don't think either the 980 or the Fury are worth their prices. The only cards that make sense to me at regular prices are 290/290X/390 and 980Ti. Everything else is overpriced (I do think $375 for the eVGA 980 is a good deal but you gotta be quick!). :thumbsup:

If you are not in a rush to get a new card, just keep an eye out here:
http://www.evga.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?type=8

Another option is to apply $25 off $200 with Newegg's Visa Checkout but you have to wait until any gifts disappear from the promotion. Just find a 390 with a $20-30 rebate and wait until any promotional gift cards are cleared so you can apply the visa checkout. You could score yourself an R9 390 for $275 that way.

At $275-280, an after-market 390 is a smoking value for 1440P as a great stop-gap card between now and 16nm GPUs.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/powercolor_radeon_r9_390_pcs_8gb_review,1.html

You get the point. If it were my money, unless you can get a 980 for $370-390, just get a $280-300 390 as it's a huge upgrade over your 7950 and resell that 390 card in 1.5 years or so, while reinvesting the resale value and $180-200+ saved from NOT buying a 980/Fury towards a 16nm GPU that is bound to be way faster than a 980/Fury and have more features. Since you are happy with 40-60 fps, this is the best deal by far and gives you a ton of money left over for your next GPU upgrade.

Remember, look back at any generation you want and you will see 10-15% differences in performance never count towards playability in the future. What that means is if you have to pay $180-200 extra for just 15% more performance, you are wasting your money -- far better to get a card with 90% of the performance in this case and reinvest the savings towards a next gen card 1.5-2X faster. 390 is the sweet spot.

 

[tential]

OOS tried to purchase it.