GTX 970 and First Strike Results

jayt101 · Jan 3, 2015

Hi all,

I'm a little dissapointed with my results from First Strike. My score was 8581 running at 1920x1080. I'm just wondering how everyone seems to be getting above 10,000 at 1080p. I've attached an image of my results.

I suspect its because I'm running a core i5 2500k which might be bottle necking me? I also think it might be by mobo which only has PCI 2.0 but I'm just guessing at this point.

Please, help me reach your level at 10,000 points!

http://imgur.com/rzwPFEY

Wall Street · Jan 3, 2015

Are you comparing your score to people with much higher clocks? I know that that GPU can get at least 20% higher core clocks in an overclock and the 2500k can often get over 30 higher clocks when overclocked. If you are comparing your stock results to other people's overclocks, don't be surprised if you are 15% below your 10,000 target score.

Kenmitch · Jan 3, 2015

You'll need to up the clocks to break 10k most likely.

futurefields · Jan 3, 2015

Your CPU is only running at 1.6ghz according to that screenshot

Termie · Jan 3, 2015

Your video card is working perfectly, but you'll never hit 10,000 with a 2500k. That doesn't mean the system won't play games well. 3DMark uses Hyperthreading, which your cpu doesn't have, so it's not the same as a typical game.

Just relax and enjoy some games!

My 4690K with a 780 Ti barely breaks 10,000 at 4.2GHz. Sure you could try to get there with a 4.8GHz overclock, but you'd be wasting your time, honestly.

amenx · Jan 3, 2015

Termie said:
Your video card is working perfectly, but you'll never hit 10,000 with a 2500k. That doesn't mean the system won't play games well. 3DMark uses Hyperthreading, which your cpu doesn't have, so it's not the same as a typical game.

Just relax and enjoy some games!

My 4690K with a 780 Ti barely breaks 10,000 at 4.2GHz. Sure you could try to get there with a 4.8GHz overclock, but you'd be wasting your time, honestly.

It will hit easily hit over 10,000 with 2500k OC'd at 4.5ghz+ and GPU at 1500mhz +. A users score at another forum:

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/4090282

ctk1981 · Jan 3, 2015

Its 3dmark...who cares?!? Go play some games and enjoy what you got.

futurefields · Jan 3, 2015

amenx said:
It will hit easily hit over 10,000 with 2500k OC'd at 4.5ghz+ and GPU at 1500mhz +. A users score at another forum:

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/4090282

1500mhz... that is over 300mhz faster than the OP's card

amenx · Jan 3, 2015

futurefields said:
1500mhz... that is over 300mhz faster than the OP's card

I wrote this: It will hit easily hit over 10,000 with 2500k OC'd at 4.5ghz+ and GPU at 1500mhz +

in response to this:

Termie said:
Your video card is working perfectly, but you'll never hit 10,000 with a 2500k.

And as far as 300mhz higher than his card, thats not an unusual OC with many 970s (incl mine).

TahoeDust · Jan 3, 2015

Something is definitely not right. Your graphics score is about 2k points low.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3337739

Termie · Jan 3, 2015

TahoeDust said:
Something is definitely not right. Your graphics score is about 2k points low.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3337739

This is the kind of response that honestly isn't that helpful. You're posting a score with a heavily-overclocked 970 and telling the OP there's something wrong with his 970. There isn't.

If he can get a 225MHz OC on his GPU and a 1000MHz OC on his VRAM like you have and can't hit the same score, then yes, maybe there's something wrong, but as far as we can tell, he's completely at stock.

TahoeDust · Jan 3, 2015

Termie said:
This is the kind of response that honestly isn't that helpful. You're posting a score with a heavily-overclocked 970 and telling the OP there's something wrong with his 970. There isn't.

If he can get a 225MHz OC on his GPU and a 1000MHz OC on his VRAM like you have and can't hit the same score, then yes, maybe there's something wrong, but as far as we can tell, he's completely at stock.

OK. Bone stock clocked 970...still with a graphics score 1k higher than the OP. My cards base clock is 88mhz higher. I am not sure if 88mhz equates to roughly 10% higher performance.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3204844

jayt101 · Jan 3, 2015

Hi Thanks for the response everyone.

I am running completely stock on my CPU and my GPU. I thought I would be able to run a 10,000 score with a stock gtx 970 and a stock i5 2500k. I thought my biggest bottleneck could be my motherboard, which only supports PCIE 2.0. Would that be one of the reasons why I'm not getting a good score? Thanks

stahlhart · Jan 3, 2015

Do you have HPET enabled?

TahoeDust · Jan 3, 2015

jayt101 said:
Hi Thanks for the response everyone.

I am running completely stock on my CPU and my GPU. I thought I would be able to run a 10,000 score with a stock gtx 970 and a stock i5 2500k. I thought my biggest bottleneck could be my motherboard, which only supports PCIE 2.0. Would that be one of the reasons why I'm not getting a good score? Thanks

No. PCIE 2.0 will not bottleneck a GTX 970.

xLegenday · Jan 4, 2015

TahoeDust said:
No. PCIE 2.0 will not bottleneck a GTX 970.

Yea.. usualy you dont get much performance hit when you even slow down the PCIE to even lower speeds. low % performance loss

xLegenday · Jan 4, 2015

Oh, and people still run 3Dmark? 😀

Just play few games and make sure you get the FPS you want to run smooth .

amenx · Jan 4, 2015

xLegenday said:
Oh, and people still run 3Dmark? 😀

Just play few games and make sure you get the FPS you want to run smooth .

3DMark has its uses, namely to check if ones performance is up to par with similar machines and/or to see if overclocking is yielding good enough results. Sadly many use it only for its e-peen aspect and which some seem to thing that is its only purpose.

KaRLiToS · Jan 4, 2015

amenx said:
3DMark has its uses, namely to check if ones performance is up to par with similar machines and/or to see if overclocking is yielding good enough results. Sadly many use it only for its e-peen aspect and which some seem to thing that is its only purpose.

3dmark is for competition in the first place.
E-peen? C'mon man! :thumbsdown:

Kenmitch · Jan 4, 2015

jayt101 said:
Hi Thanks for the response everyone.

I am running completely stock on my CPU and my GPU. I thought I would be able to run a 10,000 score with a stock gtx 970 and a stock i5 2500k. I thought my biggest bottleneck could be my motherboard, which only supports PCIE 2.0. Would that be one of the reasons why I'm not getting a good score? Thanks

It's more your cpu holding back your Fire Strike score if your worried about it.

Comparing your score to my run at stock clocks on my BestBuy reference design 970 makes me believe so. At stock I think my card is slower than yours.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3584559

Only real difference in score is the Physics part which is generated by the CPU. I'm running a 4690k @4.2ghz.

Even my reference design will boost above 1500MHz without any voltage added. Did a bios mod to up the power limit but haven't figured out the voltage yet as it doesn't seem to stick. Guess I'll have to do some reading if I want to play around with the voltage.

My best run which boosted in the mid 1500's

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3527952

Funny how I too wasn't happy as I wanted to break 11k 🙂

Just not going to happen unless I crank up or replace my cpu.

Fire Strike's only real world use is as amenx has already stated. The e-peen is kind of like a side effect I guess.

Fire Strike's score is calculated by....

Overall Fire Strike score
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Kenmitch · Jan 4, 2015

KaRLiToS said:
3dmark is for competition in the first place.
E-peen? C'mon man! :thumbsdown:

Speaking of e-peen. Fire Strike Ultra thread chart needs updated.... 🙂

KaRLiToS · Jan 4, 2015

Kenmitch said:
Speaking of e-peen. Fire Strike Ultra thread chart needs updated.... 🙂

Done and sorry, never saw it. 😉

XiandreX · Jan 4, 2015

For reference with my very modest overclock on my cpu and moderate overclock on my GTX 970 I hit around 10k (a hair over).

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