GTX 960 Ti in the near future?

[It's Not Lupus]

Are my hopes too high in wishing for a GTX 960 Ti release before the new year?

There's a huge price gap between the 960 and 970. It's been close to a year since the 970 was release and 9 months since the 960. This is a long wait. 960 doesn't seem like an improvement over the 760. 970 costs way too much for me as someone who only plays single player games occasionally.

 

[jpiniero]

Probably not. IIRC 960 is full GM206, so it would have to be GM204. nVidia is very likely done until 2016, and the only new chip might be a Titan until the end of 2016. There will be rebrands of course, so maybe a 1440 core GM204 will be released when the GP100 is.

 

[alcoholbob]

They can't cut the GTX 970 down any further IMO because of the bad press already about 3.5GB.

The only thing they could do is up the clocks and call the 4GB version the 960Ti. But then that would cannibalize sales of the GTX 970 so that makes no sense, since the choice between 3.5GB and a 4GB card that are close in performance, the cheaper 4GB card would make sense.

 

[happy medium]

buy a gtx960 4gb and give it a 25% overclock (they all will do this) and walaaaa ,you have a gtx960ti.

gtx960 4gb for 213$ shipped and free Metal gear solid game (40$ value), I bet the gtx960ti would cost the same.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500374

13 cards tested and overclocked.
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/GeForce-GTX-960-Overclocking-Report-13-Cards-Tested

"Remember that the reference base clock of the GTX 960 is 1127 MHz and the reference Boost clock is 1178 MHz - that should help put these overclocks in perspective. The worst result in our overclocking testing game with one of the four MSI GTX 960 100ME/Gaming graphics cards, hitting just 1501 MHz. The best result was a 1576 MHz overclock, also from an MSI card, which should show you right away that picking a particular hardware vendor with the hopes of getting the "best" overclocker just isn't the way to think about it."

memory overclocks good also.

 

[LTC8K6]

Could they make a 256Bit 960 and call it a Ti?

 

[Zodiark1593]

Could they make a 256Bit 960 and call it a Ti?

Unless they had memory interfaces in the GM206 we don't know about, it's highly unlikely. Making an entire chip just for the TI is also out.

Looking at the insane overclocks though, I'd be willing to wager that at one point, they intended to release a very high clocked GM206 as a TI. A 1550-1600 GM206 part closes the compute gap significantly between it and a stock 970, with the only other negative being memory bandwidth. Some 8 GHz GDDR5 (OC to 9 GHz?) may mitigate that a bit and make quite a nice card.

 

[Shehriazad]

192 Bit 3gigs would have been an awesome 960 ti....but then again, I kind of actually expected that for the 960. But eh.

I don't think this golden kid will ever exist. It would sit in a weird price spot and be too competitive for 1080P for their own products. I don't think Nvidia is into cannibalism.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Could be cut down to 48 ROPs/192-bit bus which is what the GTX 970m is configured as. This would be also the same as what the 660ti was cut down as.

I wonder if market demand is just not there as AMD also has a large gap between the 380 and 390 even though they have a full Tonga they could slot in there as a 380x.

The 660Ti was also a $300+ card at launch. That's 970 prices now.

The performance disparity between the 960 and 970 is enough that you'd think there should be a model between them, but IMO the price gap between a factory overclocked 960 at $230 and a stock 970 at <$290 AR (when stuff's on sale) isn't a wide enough gap to justify having another SKU in between.

Profit margin on a further-cut-down 970/980 chip would probably be too low to make it worthwhile, especially if yields are good. (Judging by the Steam Survey numbers, 970s are really popular despite any bad press. So it's not like they're having trouble selling the things.)

It's just how this gen's architecture fell out, I guess.

 

[xorbe]

The 760Ti was OEM only. I don't think there's going to be a 960Ti. They've moved x60Ti customers up to the $330 price bracket, and called it the x70 product now. The segmented memory gives it away as the classic x60 product of the past. I think you're stuck with either the humble 960 or the powerful 970 (in nv land). The 960 is really what an x50 or x50Ti product would have been.

 

[Dragoon12]

Doubt it, a 950Ti is more likely

 

[xorbe]

Doubt it, a 950Ti is more likely

Wedging a 950Ti between the 950 and 960, yeah that's like slicing pre-sliced cheese, lol.

 

[Techhog]

Doubt it, a 950Ti is more likely

No, no it's not. There's no pace for it in terms of price, performance, or hardware unless it's just an overclocked 950, and why would they bother with that?

 

[Shehriazad]

If a 960 Ti appears I half-expect it to come at the end of 900s' lifecycle when they are ready to cannibalize their 900 for 1000 series, anyway.

 

[xorbe]

No, no it's not. There's no pace for it in terms of price, performance, or hardware unless it's just an overclocked 950, and why would they bother with that?

I think his implication was exactly that, it's not going to happen. First time poster, hit and run.

 

[xorbe]

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B016QO3UJQ

Mystery 3GB 192-bit 960 in the Zotac NEN Steam machine.

 

[poofyhairguy]

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B016QO3UJQ

Mystery 3GB 192-bit 960 in the Zotac NEN Steam machine.

Basically has a 970m

 

[xorbe]

OEM only again, just like oem-only 760 Ti.

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-960-oem/specifications

 

[LTC8K6]

GeForce GTX 960 (OEM) Desktop Graphics
Experience next-generation gaming with GeForce® GTX&#8482; 960 (OEM) designed for integration on-motherboard to deliver advanced performance, power efficiency, and realistic gameplay only NVIDIA Maxwell&#8482; technology can offer.

 

[xorbe]

GeForce GTX 960 (OEM) Desktop Graphics
Experience next-generation gaming with GeForce® GTX™ 960 (OEM) designed for integration on-motherboard to deliver advanced performance, power efficiency, and realistic gameplay only NVIDIA Maxwell™ technology can offer.

Oh, that is the 970M then. Oh well.