GTX 960 is expected to launch next month.

[tviceman]

I was going to say in between a 770 and 780 but with a 140w TDP. Would make a great efficient SLI setup if the bus width is still 256bit with 4gb of VRAM. I bet it will only have 32 ROPS.

The only way it will have 32 ROP's and a 256-bit bus is if it is Kepler based or a new Maxwell chip (GM206) and has 8 ROP's per memory controller (instead of 16 like gm204) which may be a first time GPU products within th same family have specialized memory controllers (i.e. very unlikely). Othwerwise, the ROP's are tied to these very memory controllers and can't just be switched off unless entire controllers are fused from operation - which would then mean it can't be 256-bit with 32 ROPs.

 

[Wild Thing]

My guess is we will see a GM206 based GTX960 and a GM204 based 960Ti. The 960 will pit against 280x and the 960Ti against 290. Then the lower end GM206 will be GTX 950Ti and then GM207 will be GTX 950.

Similar to Kepler line up. Then we will have Big Maxwell crash the party.

They already tried that...it was called Titan Z...a $3000 party crashing flop.

 

[Keysplayr]

They already tried that...it was called Titan Z...a $3000 party crashing flop.

Not exactly. Titan Z was Kepler. That was kind of for the low end compute crowd. Not saying it wasn't a great gaming card, it was, but it was even better at compute.

GTX780 and 780Ti filled the gaming bill just fine. I'm sure you'll agree.

Probably will be a Titan II Z X Q zinga zinga, or whatever they decide to call it as well. Along with the 780 an 780Ti successor.

 

[Bateluer]

If this card launches with 2GBs of VRAM, I will laugh at anyone who is dumb enough to buy it. Not acceptable for a 2015 card in the midrange.

 

[DooKey]

They already tried that...it was called Titan Z...a $3000 party crashing flop.

Nope. Dual gpu card and it was Kepler. You can do better than that, Will.

Both of the dual gpu cards were flops from a consumer perspective. 295 and Z were bad investments for early adopters. I'd be pissed if I was a customer of either company. Neither card held their value for very long.

 

[tential]

Not exactly. Titan Z was Kepler. That was kind of for the low end compute crowd. Not saying it wasn't a great gaming card, it was, but it was even better at compute.

GTX780 and 780Ti filled the gaming bill just fine. I'm sure you'll agree.

Probably will be a Titan II Z X Q zinga zinga, or whatever they decide to call it as well. Along with the 780 an 780Ti successor.

Why they don't just release a GTX Titan 3 (Faster than the GTX 980), then release a GTX 980 Ti that's faster than the GTX Titan 3 and cheaper I don't get it.

It worked before, why not do it again?

 

[Silverforce11]

If its a 4GB version, it would make for a very effective SLI setup for cheap! (O_O)b

 

[notty22]

Nvidia will have another 'gtx 460' with this card, making it the Maxwell trifecta, 960,970,980 and AMD will counter with ...wait for it.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Nvidia will have another 'gtx 460' with this card, making it the Maxwell trifecta, 960,970,980 and AMD will counter with ...wait for it.

Can you please explain this to someone who was a console pleb at that time? haha

 

[Bateluer]

Nvidia will have another 'gtx 460' with this card, making it the Maxwell trifecta, 960,970,980 and AMD will counter with ...wait for it.

Seems to me that the ~200 dollar R9 290s and ~350 dollar R9 290Xs already compete with the available GTX 970s and 980s nicely. Unless you believe Nvidia will trim the prices down with the 960 launch?

 

[Keysplayr]

Seems to me that the ~200 dollar R9 290s and ~350 dollar R9 290Xs already compete with the available GTX 970s and 980s nicely. Unless you believe Nvidia will trim the prices down with the 960 launch?

You're talking used... right?

Because Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...77&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=30
Lowest 290 is 279.00 (259.00 AR)

Although I do see plenty of 290X at much less than 350.00. I see 309.00 AR.

 

[WittyRemark]

Gtx960= $199
Gtx960ti= $249/$239

just my two cents.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

If it happens I'll just find some super cheap 280x and cf. I don't have the budget to get a 970 but another 280x would be great for F@H and games.

 

[SlickR12345]

I could see Nvidia doing a 960 at $250 with 2GB ram and 256bit interface and 4GB version at $280

We would also see GTX 950 at $200 with 2gb and 128bit.

It would be very greedy from Nvidia, but that is what they are known for, so I'm expecting expensive prices, same performance as the old 700 series parts.

I would like to be surprised with a $200 4GB 256bit 960, but it will never happen.

 

[crisium]

It'll be nice to finally have a new winner for the fastest 1x6pin segment. Surprisingly, despite Kepler and Maxwell being around, it is the Radeon 270 that currently has that title. The 960/960Ti looks to be the new champ.

That is the extent of my excitement.

The new 460? No, no no. The 970 is the new 460. The 460 equalled or beat last gen's most expensive flagship (especially while OC'd) the 285 and costs much less and runs cooler and quieter. That's about where the 970 is right now since Kepler is such a poor performer in modern games (matches or beats 780Ti, in single card scenario's essentially matches 290x while performing much cooler and quieter... see the parallels to the 460 vs 285 relationship?). The 960, meanwhile, we will likely be just slightly faster than AMD's card from three years ago. The 970 is selling in droves like the 460; the 960 will be much more modest in its success.

 

[Enigmoid]

I think right now Nvidia is in a little bit of a hard spot. The dramatic drop in the 290s price means that they cannot introduce it at the price they want. The 960 is a hugely cut down die as well if its using GM2014.

 

[exar333]

I could see Nvidia doing a 960 at $250 with 2GB ram and 256bit interface and 4GB version at $280

We would also see GTX 950 at $200 with 2gb and 128bit.

It would be very greedy from Nvidia, but that is what they are known for, so I'm expecting expensive prices, same performance as the old 700 series parts.

I would like to be surprised with a $200 4GB 256bit 960, but it will never happen.

No way this card is going to go for >$270. I would even be surprised if it goes much above $250, except for a larger-memory option or a 'Ti' version.

I could see this being ~$220-$260 for the 960 and 960Ti (if they release both types). Anything over $250 kills the chance for AIBs to customize the card much without butting-up against the base 970. AMD already has this issue for the 285 vs. 290. NV must have prepped for this up-front when they priced the 970 at $330 months ago.

 

[f1sherman]

The new 460? No, no no. The 970 is the new 460. The 460 equalled or beat last gen's most expensive flagship (especially while OC'd) the 285 and costs much less and runs cooler and quieter. That's about where the 970 is right now since Kepler is such a poor performer in modern games (matches or beats 780Ti, in single card scenario's essentially matches 290x while performing much cooler and quieter... see the parallels to the 460 vs 285 relationship?). The 960, meanwhile, we will likely be just slightly faster than AMD's card from three years ago. The 970 is selling in droves like the 460; the 960 will be much more modest in its success.

Exactly.
There are less PC's selling these days, but (or hence) the average GPU has gone up slightly both in price and BoM/mm2.
Gaming machines are becoming more dedicated and more capable.

This trend begun with Kepler, with 670 selling so well like it's x60 part.
Not to mention that 670 is smaller than 460/GF104.
True, this is not the case with GM104, but everything else points that it's new "affordable" performer.
Nvidia's x60 parts somehow lost its charm.

 

[skipsneeky2]

I think the 960ti may be as fast as a 780 but have 4gb,but perhaps the stock ones will have a single 6 pin while overclocking models will have dual 6 pin.

$249 for the 960ti 4gb, $199 for the 960.

 

[exar333]

I think the 960ti may be as fast as a 780 but have 4gb,but perhaps the stock ones will have a single 6 pin while overclocking models will have dual 6 pin.

$249 for the 960ti 4gb, $199 for the 960.

This would be about right.

I would suspect a re-brand of the existing 750 to the 950 to happen after the 960...this probably will not be far behind.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I think the 960ti may be as fast as a 780 but have 4gb,but perhaps the stock ones will have a single 6 pin while overclocking models will have dual 6 pin.

$249 for the 960ti 4gb, $199 for the 960.

If that's true the 960Ti will be far the best card for the money to get for 1080p. Even if it's 3GB instead of 4GB. Something that performs like a GTX 780 with a Maxwell power draw for $250 would seriously eat into their 970 sales though. Talk about bad news for AMD if this is what the card ends up being. How much more could they discount the R9 290's before the 960Ti's launch if so?

 

[Rezist]

I don't really see the 960/960Ti going after the 290, that'd put it only like 5-7% slower then the 970, unless they price it at like 280ish. I guess they could they go with a 3gb/192 bit card at 229. I just feel they would slow down 970 sales with that close of performance.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I don't really see the 960/960Ti going after the 290, that'd put it only like 5-7% slower then the 970, unless they price it at like 280ish. I guess they could they go with a 3gb/192 bit card at 229. I just feel they would slow down 970 sales with that close of performance.

I bet it'll end up being a more power efficient equivalent to a 770, which is going to royally suck for $250 when one can get a truly awesome card in the R9 290 for just $10-$15 more. Even at $200 I wouldn't want a 770 equivalent. No one pays $200 to play games on medium like Shadow of Mordor recommends when you have 2GB of VRAM. That 2GB of VRAM is why no one [cares] about the R9 285.

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[SteveGrabowski]

Profanity isn't allowed in the technical forums.
-- stahlhart

Oops, sorry

 

[Jovec]

For many, a 2GB 960 would be a huge upgrade and, if priced right, a great value.