GTX 590 Teaser vs GTX 580 AVP only video

[3xVicious]

So I'm assuming this is official? The 590 is trumped by the 6990, but 2x 580s in SLI trump both? I'm trying to decide between going 2x 580s or a single 590 tomorrow. I just want to be 100% sure I'm not screwing myself with this decision.

I'd be running 1 monitor at 1920x1080, it's a 3D monitor but I plan on gaming in 2D at 120hz. I may go the 3D route later on though. Does the 590 have any true advantages over 2 580s besides price and room? I mean, I understand that Blizzard has issues with SLI and their games, will the 590 solve this problem or will it still work the same as 2 separate cards?

Last question! If this causes a price drop in 580s, do you guys know whether Newegg will price match them if it hasn't been more then 30 days like most retail stores, or would I be screwed? I'd like to get everything ordered and setup by Friday. So ordering it now, or ordering it tomorrow could make the difference between this week and next week.

 

[badb0y]

It comes down to this:

How are we going to rank which card is better? If the GTX 590 is slower than the AMD 6990 but is cooler and quieter who wins? What if when OC'ed the GTX 590 wins out against the 6990 OC'ed? Both seem to be similarly priced so I will be watching for reviews before I make any conclusions.

 

[notty22]

Bold statement.... but your over exaggerating.

Site dedicated to 3D gameing, tests the 3 solutions and compaires them:
http://www.mtbs3d.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=38&Itemid=76

Lets have a look at testers conclusions about 3d gameing:

Left 4 Dead: (all equally well)
Metro 2033 (iZ3D + DDD > nvidia)
BF:Bad Company 2 (Nvidia > DDD > iZ3D)
Mass Effect 2: (sucks equally bad on all 3)
Crysis Warhead: (iZ3D > Nvidia)
I just took randomly some popular games, you can check out their reviews on other games if you want. There are pictures showing things, youtube videos where they compair ect the 3 solutions of 3D drivers for 3D gameing.

My point was just this... its abit early to say Nvidia solution is the best, it depends on which game your playing.

No its not. Nvidia has been working on 3d going on years now, and is much more polished.
The Iz3d solution does not support 3d using crossfire.
http://3dvision-blog.com/amd-hd3d-technology-what-you-shouldve-know-from-the-start/

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/revie...50-graphics-card-review-left-4-dead-2-3d.html

When testing AMD 3D and NVIDIA 3D Vision we are quite limited in the scenarios where the two can be compared. This is due to the limitations of AMD's implementation which uses 3rd party drivers to enable the 3D effect. These 3rd party drivers lack the support and polish of the NVIDIA alternative and since we began testing this aspect of AMD cards around 4 months ago the situation has not improved significantly.

From bugs to lack of game support, AMD disappoint and the experience is made worse by the fact that support for DirectX 10 and 11 is patchy at best. Not only that though, we cannot use Crossfire with AMD 3D.
So, to summarise… single GPU only and DirectX 9 games have the most chance of working. With NVIDIA we can pretty much play anything we want in 3D, in fact there is only one game in our test suite which doesn't yet have some form of 3D support and that is Medal of Honor (single player).

Therefore we opted for Left 4 Dead 2 as our comparison as it is one of the few games we have seen work on AMD hardware in 3D. We are using the iZ3D driver which costs $30 after the initial 30 day trial for this test as it gave us the best results on AMD.

Configuration, software and hardware issues aside the performance of the AMD solution allows us to play Left 4 Dead 2 in 3d at our chosen settings with decent image quality. We do need to tweak the stereo effect in our drivers before playing to get the best 3D effect though. On the NVIDIA front the experience is better as performance is near identical and the active glasses give a better 3D image quality. Also there is no configuration required, simply enable 3D and its good to go.

 

[SolMiester]

You sound like you own royalties in nVidia IP. Just because something is open source doesn't in any way make it inferior by default. (Arkadrel's post demonstrates that)

Nobody (virtually) cares about PhysX.

Quiet is important. If one card is loud and the other is quiet, then it matters. If they are both loud, but one isn't quite as loud, then they both suck. Just one sucks harder.

I wouldn't want any card that was loud, a power hog, and who's cooling solution wasn't adequate enough to keep the components on the card "cool". I think because we are skipping a process shrink the current series of cards, from both vendors, are at a disadvantage in all of those categories. We are relegated to buying the card that sucks less. There are a few exceptions, but overall the cards are either power hogs, and therefore produce a lot of heat by default, or use crippled, underclocked GPU's and are lower powered and cooler because they aren't stressed at all.

Good effort, however Im nowhere near as passionate as some of the AMD trolls around here.....in POF, Im very tame, I havent even suggested anyone has shares or royalties in AMD!...

AFAIK, the only people who arent interested in PhysX are the people who dont have it or cant afford the FPS cost!

As for loud, I agree...

 

[SolMiester]

He's reasoning that because nVidia's is proprietary and AMD utilizes an open source approach is reason enough for nVidia's to be superior. He's not showing any tests, reviews, etc. that demonstrate his position. Simply his opinion that open source is inferior. Whether you agree with it or not, at least Arkadel presented an article to back up his position that it was in fact no better than AMD in many games.

I'm not stating which is superior, just that his proprietary/open source reasoning is without merit.

Open source is nearly always inferior mate than propriety software, if you dont know that, you dont know IT....Mainly due to development...and AFAIK, this is an opinions board!, facts not mandatory!.. As for Arkadels post, Im taking the article at face value, I havent the time to spent researching it...there are plenty here that have already given their experiences on 3D

 

[SolMiester]

No its not. Nvidia has been working on 3d going on years now, and is much more polished.
The Iz3d solution does not support 3d using crossfire.
http://3dvision-blog.com/amd-hd3d-technology-what-you-shouldve-know-from-the-start/

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/revie...50-graphics-card-review-left-4-dead-2-3d.html

Thanks for the ref!

 

[AtenRa]

So, GTX 580 price drop soon .

If GTX590 is 40% faster than GTX580 and cost 40% more ($500 vs $700-750), then i dont see any price drop soon.