GTX 570 vs RADEON 6950

[SlowSpyder]

I would go with the 6950 and overclock it. It has 2GB of memory, so I wouldn't be surprised if it is a better card in the future (assuming you game at a high enough resolution). Just my $.02

 

[bryanW1995]

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_6950/29.html

 

[skipsneeky2]

I would go with the 6950 and overclock it. It has 2GB of memory, so I wouldn't be surprised if it is a better card in the future (assuming you game at a high enough resolution). Just my $.02

+1 even tho i feel by the time a game can consume 2gb of vram more then likely it will be way outdated unless he had a huge 30 inch monitor or something already.

Heck i'm thinking about a pair of those in crossfire to replace my gtx 560 non ti for BF3.

 

[bryanW1995]

Dude buy the parts and put it together. It takes around 20 minutes to put it together and you can Youtube how to do it. If you get stuck you can always post here for help and it's MUCH easier then you think it is.

HAHAHA!!!! 20 minutes? I've built ~ 15 systems for myself and friends/family over the past 10 years, and even in the perfect scenario where I'm buying all parts that I've used before and don't even need to look at the manual to connect the front panel/pw/etc crap it still takes min 2 hrs from time I start until system is up and running and all trash/etc put away. Factor in windows install, etc etc and you're looking at more like 4-5 hours minimum. And that's for somebody who knows what he's doing and has zero issues.

@OP: look at those $1000-1100 systems that were linked earlier in the thread. You want an i5 2500k with a gtx 560 ti, 6950 2gb, or gtx 570 gpu, and you can easily get that for what you were willing to pay for those other systems.

 

[nitromullet]

The OP could buy a system with Core i5 2500K, 4GB RAM, 1TB HD, and a GTX 570 for about $100 more than his original options.

There really isn't any reason to compromise between the Phenom/Core i5 and 560Ti/570. Plus, I even added a Corsair 750 PSU. All for $1170.

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1DEAT4

 

[lehtv]

So wait... If you don't know how to do something, you'd rather have someone do it for you than learn how to do it yourself? That's called lazyness, and the outcome of that is analogous to that in the saying which goes

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

In other words, look up some online guides for how to build a PC, check that you have some knowledge of what the main working components are and their basic functions.

You can ask the people here to give you suggestions for hardware that performs fast and reliably and stays cool and quiet. If you run into problems during installation you can post here and you'll get help. The important bits are usually covered in product manuals. In the end, it's not very difficult, I built my first computer when I was 15 or so and I didn't know nearly as much as you'd probably think you need to know to get the job done.

 

[Jacky60]

Build it yourself it's surprisingly good fun and really easy. Either way get 2500k and 6950/570. If you buy from Acer/Dell etc you get a really cheap set of components that won't overclock and give you average performance at best.

 

[Arkaign]

I have the XFX 6950 2GB, and like it.

What the heck is up with the 6950 and the BF3 test benches though? I can't figure out why it's so terribly slow compared to other cards. I probably wouldn't have bought the card if I'd known it would suck so badly at BF3.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Check out the 560TI . There are reviews . I have a 560TI and a 580 . I like the 560TI alot. Fact is its the best card I have ever owned

 

[Crap Daddy]

May I ask why is not the 580 the best card you ever owned?

 

[E6700]

May I ask why is not the 580 the best card you ever owned?

because he dont have it LOL.

 

[3DVagabond]

So wait... If you don't know how to do something, you'd rather have someone do it for you than learn how to do it yourself? That's called lazyness, and the outcome of that is analogous to that in the saying which goes
In other words, look up some online guides for how to build a PC, check that you have some knowledge of what the main working components are and their basic functions.

You can ask the people here to give you suggestions for hardware that performs fast and reliably and stays cool and quiet. If you run into problems during installation you can post here and you'll get help. The important bits are usually covered in product manuals. In the end, it's not very difficult, I built my first computer when I was 15 or so and I didn't know nearly as much as you'd probably think you need to know to get the job done.

Being a bit judgmental, aren't you? It sounds more likely to me the OP just lacks some confidence. It might be totally justified, as well. Might be lack of time, and (s)he can afford to pay someone more than afford to take the time out to do it. Lots of other reasons besides laziness.

 

[notty22]

Being a bit judgmental, aren't you? It sounds more likely to me the OP just lacks some confidence. It might be totally justified, as well. Might be lack of time, and (s)he can afford to pay someone more than afford to take the time out to do it. Lots of other reasons besides laziness.

I agree.
There are reasons some do no want to build there own. I don't agree with the zeal of insisting someone has to build there own, or insert negative, negative etc.
Have you ever read threads where someone has chased motherboard/memory , bsod issues to no resolve ? I have. Some want to just use their computer, while they are working 60 hours a week, and raising a family etc.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

May I ask why is not the 580 the best card you ever owned?

The GTX 580 isn't really known for decent bang-for-buck or power consumption. That's why I'd never buy it even if I had the money.

That's my take on it.

To the OP, again, if all you have is $1000 go for the Core i5 2400 + GTX 560 Ti system.

 

[Nemesis 1]

May I ask why is not the 580 the best card you ever owned?

Sure, I did not say it was the fastest card I have ever owned. The Best. I just wanted to make that clear .

Because of the all round performance and efficiency of the system , I have a system that quite a bit faster . That I game on , But that on another line. I spend most my time on this machine meaning on my browser. Its really I combination of thinings .

This system at full load Uses less joice than the one it replaced at idle.

I only load my not often played favorites on my browser. So I needed Better than what SB igp offers. This system I run in imode and its hiccup free.
I think The MSI z68 M/B I broke the bios somehow . and the 2500k is goofy on this in a really cool way . It really doesn't add performance because its just a short period of time 3 seconds max. But this thing when ya open apps has crazy turbo . And it seems to go up more with time . Although today the highest I have seen is 4.9 ghz I have seen 6.1 and wifes says she seen 6.2. Thats nuts . I have Vcore looked at 1.35. now and it drops to 1.28 underload. O/C is 4.5ghz . The strangest thing is I have Turbo turned off. and it seems to be until you open apps. I also have affinity set to all cores . So that when you run a single threaded app all 4 cores work on it. I use a gadget and all 4 cores do infact work at 25% If one spikes another drops off. . 8 gb memory .

I was going to use an SSD as cache . But after wife reasoned it out with me . I decided to use Intel 510 120 sata III 6g.
She said its a browser and ya don't need a 1 tb of space. Love that woman. I just ran crystel disk mark 3.0.1 earlier so I could check before and after Disk backup.

THe Machine is calling for back up now ,

and in 64bit

Seq. 369.3 208.2
512 3o7.6 202.2
4k 22 50.62
4k 86.51 64.62
QD32

Its a combination of the whole system that made me say that . My 2600K is fast its at 5ghz. H2O It has faster Memory. It scores Higher . But is Raid O harddrives 4 of them Raptor types.
The 2500K Just feels . I don't know how to discribe it . Imagine that me lost for words.

Since 580 is teamed with the 2600K and the raptors . The power draw of a 580 is considerable. So that brings the 560Ti to the top of my list . This is just a real;ly fun setup its on air . Its in a water case but not using it.

But all of this is why I said the 560TI is my fave. I should have said this is my favorite system ever . But that be a lie . My dothan at 3.1ghz was a blast back when AMD was supposedly the fasting thing around . Not in my neighbored . IN gaming my dothan pounded AMD hammer easily.

Now if this doesn't teach you a lesson about asking me a complex question . Nothing will

 

[lehtv]

Being a bit judgmental, aren't you? It sounds more likely to me the OP just lacks some confidence. It might be totally justified, as well. Might be lack of time, and (s)he can afford to pay someone more than afford to take the time out to do it. Lots of other reasons besides laziness.

Oh I didn't mean to be judgmental. It wasn't a serious comment, just something to get his attention.

Good luck to OP whatever he decides to do, I just recommend building it yourself. I don't believe lack of time is a great reason not to do it, you can always find time one way or the other

 

[bryanW1995]

So wait... If you don't know how to do something, you'd rather have someone do it for you than learn how to do it yourself? That's called lazyness, and the outcome of that is analogous to that in the saying which goes
In other words, look up some online guides for how to build a PC, check that you have some knowledge of what the main working components are and their basic functions.

You can ask the people here to give you suggestions for hardware that performs fast and reliably and stays cool and quiet. If you run into problems during installation you can post here and you'll get help. The important bits are usually covered in product manuals. In the end, it's not very difficult, I built my first computer when I was 15 or so and I didn't know nearly as much as you'd probably think you need to know to get the job done.

This is just ridiculous and is a borderline callout. The OP asked us for help in configuring his system, not a lecture on his work ethic. Besides, some people just don't have the interest in building their own rigs. I know guys who love to work on their own cars. Some of them are my mechanics. Am I lazy because I don't turn a wrench myself? I don't care to learn how to do it, and, frankly, I'd rather spend that time with my family. I like to work on computers so I build my own rigs, but I'm certainly not going to criticize another for not wanting to.

 

[lehtv]

This is just ridiculous and is a borderline callout. The OP asked us for help in configuring his system, not a lecture on his work ethic. Besides, some people just don't have the interest in building their own rigs. I know guys who love to work on their own cars. Some of them are my mechanics. Am I lazy because I don't turn a wrench myself? I don't care to learn how to do it, and, frankly, I'd rather spend that time with my family. I like to work on computers so I build my own rigs, but I'm certainly not going to criticize another for not wanting to.

I think that is just ridiculous. Chill out man. I already pointed out in my previous post that I wasn't judging him. Learn to read posts above you before replying...

The point of my post wasn't to criticize or lecture, it was to encourage. Maybe not the best effort, but you replying to me in such a manner seems a bit hypocritical.