GTX 560 Ti Leaked Benchmarks/Info Thread

[happy medium]

6870 Crossfire scales alot better than 5870 Crossfire.

And the 5870 scaled alot worse then the gtx series also. I expect the gtx560 in sli to beat 6870's fairly easily.

5870's in crossfire vs gtx560's in sli = easy win for the gtx560's because of sli scaling being better with cards equaly as powerfull to each other.
The 6870's vs 5870's is just about even or the 5870's are slightly faster because the single 5870 is about 10% faster then the single 6870's.

In short gtx560's will beat x-fired 6870's. I'd bet on it,especially by the second driver release.

 

[Castiel]

2 560's should be 20% faster then a single 580 for less money

 

[Castiel]

Anyone know of an owner with a pair of 5870's that can test with cat 10.12?

 

[MentalIlness]

You'll probably just need to wait and see how it performs before saying something like that. I just said that I "guess" it will be priced where it is supposed to be.

The performance is going to be good, I expect it to be. But I still think he's referring to the price he wants to pay over performance that would make him think twice.

I think.......

 

[Keysplayr]

The performance is going to be good, I expect it to be. But I still think he's referring to the price he wants to pay over performance that would make him think twice.

I think.......

We'll probably never really know.

 

[Skurge]

We'll probably never really know.

heh, I was saying it can perform real well, but $250 is a lot for a mainstream card. If was in the market for a mainstream card, I would be looking to spend $200 or less, 6850/gtx460 level cards.

It can perform like a gtx570 for $250, but if I don't wanna spend that kind of money, it doesn't really matter now does it.

Does that make sense?

 

[happy medium]

heh, I was saying it can perform real well, but $250 is a lot for a mainstream card. If was in the market for a mainstream card, I would be looking to spend $200 or less, 6850/gtx460 level cards.

It can perform like a gtx570 for $250, but if I don't wanna spend that kind of money, it doesn't really matter now does it.

Does that make sense?

DO you mean tiers?

gtx580/5970 ultra highend enthusiast 500$+
gtx570/6970 highend 350$
gtx560/6950 high midrange 250/300$
gtx460SSC/6870 mid range 210$
gtx460 1gb(vanilla)/6850, high lowerend 180$

Mid range = mid range prices=mid range performance

 

[Skurge]

DO you mean tiers?

gtx580/5970 ultra highend enthusiast 500$+
gtx570/6970 highend 350$
gtx560/6950 high midrange 250/300$
gtx460SSC/6870 mid range 210$
gtx460 1gb(vanilla)/6850, high lowerend 180$

Mid range = mid range prices=mid range performance

Well I know that, but you can't call a $250 card mainstream can you?

 

[Keysplayr]

Well I know that, but you can't call a $250 card mainstream can you?

You can if you want to. All depends on the individual. The dude who will spend a maximum of 75 bucks on a new video card will think the cost of a GTX560 is outlandish. The converse is true also. But at least we know what you yourself consider mainstream, and a bit above mainstream (which I think the 560 actually is).

I always purchased 1 tier below top end, myself. So I'm a GTX570 type of buyer. That's just me though.

The GTX460 is around to cover the mainstream. Might eventually be succeeded by GTX550 or some such moniker.

 

[happy medium]

Well I know that, but you can't call a $250 card mainstream can you?

In all fairness, those 250$ cards are new released cards and will be priced a little higher for a bit.
The prices will settle, right after they are released and other prices will fall also, on the highend and lower end.

prices on the 6870 and 6850 have been dropping allready.
The gtx460/gtx470 is on its way out and is about as low as its gonna go.

I guess it depends on your definition of mainstream.
Mine? A single card thats about half as fast as the fastest dual card.

Last round mainsteam would have been a 5850, but they had no real competition so they stayed above $250. If the gtx460 would have released with the 5850, the 5850 would have been at $220 in no time.
Make sense?

 

[combust3r]

Definition of mainstream shouldn't be an individual opinion - mainstream is what sells the most. GTX460/HD6850/HD6870 are mainstream and people want best bang for the buck but limited to a certain price mark (170-230$).

AMD and nVIDIA would want to bump this price mark to 250$ or even higher if possible - the more the better for them. Gamers would want GTX560 performance for 150$ but that's not gonna happen. So usually something in between is a good deal.

 

[happy medium]

Definition of mainstream shouldn't be an individual opinion - mainstream is what sells the most. GTX460/HD6850/HD6870 are mainstream and people want best bang for the buck but limited to a certain price mark (170-230$).

What? Who says that 170/230$ is mainstream? A factory worker, a doctor, lawyer? I'd go with a factory worker.
It is definitly a individuals opinion.

 

[RussianSensation]

Well I know that, but you can't call a $250 card mainstream can you?

I am going to agree with Skurge on this one. While people earn a different amount of $, which changes their own idea of what a mainstream videocard is, the manufacturers have very specific definitions.

The diagram from Nvidia indicates that graphics cards priced at >$199 make up for but a 14% share of the market. Therefore, anything above $199 is definitely not mainstream from a market share perspective.

 

[combust3r]

What? Who says that 170/230$ is mainstream? A factory worker, a doctor, lawyer? I'd go with a factory worker.
It is definitly a individuals opinion.

Marketshare ?

Damn, I hate to use that word, my personal opinion is that Linux is the best operating system there is, but marketshare proves that it isn't mainstream, isnt it ?

And I'm no factory worker...

 

[Attic]

Think we will see the 560 benched against the 460GTX SuperOverclock FTW edition from EVGA becuase nVidia thinks it's a good idea?. For instance like we saw in AMD's last midrange performance offering review here at anandtech?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-596-_-Product

A $200 dollar card that will likely be right on the heels if not surpase the performance of a more expensive 560GTX. Are the reasons the same for that cards merit in a debut review as they were when AMD released the 6850/6870? I think if the integrity of the review of the 6870 and those who gave that review a pass is to be upheld, then this card should be put against the 560GTX as well. Or is the fact that this card doesn't qualify for step-up, no lifetime warranty, high RMA rate, ect, going to now be given more focus than before in order to undermine its inclusion in such a review?

It would be interesting to note all those who stood behind that decision, and see if they stand behind their assertion and continue to be ok with the 460GTX FTW's inclusion in a 560GTX review.

 

[busydude]

You can if you want to. All depends on the individual.

No, it does not depend on the individual. It's not the individual that decides whether the card is mainstream or not.. its the companies.

Look at AMD's CPU roadmap:

and GPU roadmap of previous gen

 

[happy medium]

No, it does not depend on the individual. It's not the individual that decides whether the card is mainstream or not.. its the companies.

and GPU roadmap of previous gen

Now thats was 15 months ago.The 5770 was $190?
What do you think mainstream is now? $230 6870?
Think of the word inflation.

In June of last year , nvidia called the $230 gtx460 "mainstream"

Quote:
" The chaps at [h] discovered a roadmap for NVIDIA's upcoming mainstream products. Most of it already known information of course:

In mid-July we will be seeing a "460" or "GF104" GPU from NVIDIA. It should MSRP around $230 and have very good overclocking potential."


http://www.guru3d.com/news/nvidia-gf104-gf106-and-gf108-roadmap-surfaces/

 

[Skurge]

Now thats was 15 months ago.The 5770 was $190?
What do you think mainstream is now?
Think of the word inflation.

Whats your point?

 

[happy medium]

You missed the edit above, sorry

Prices go up, but mainstream prices stay the same?
Do you think your gonna pay 230$ for a mainstream type gtx460 card forever?

 

[busydude]

In June of last year , nvidia called the $230 gtx460 "mainstream"

No, it does not depend on the individual. It's not the individual that decides whether the card is mainstream or not.. its the companies.

I just said the exact same thing. I never talked about prices.

 

[happy medium]

I just said the exact same thing. I never talked about prices.

Sorry, I dont think you were involved in the pricing part.

 

[Skurge]

You missed the edit above, sorry

Prices go up, but mainstream prices stay the same?
Do you think your gonna pay 230$ for a mainstream type gtx460 card forever?

What are you talking about? Why are you using the 460? Nobody was talking about that specific card? We were talking about the price point where most cards are sold, which most people here would assume us mainstream.

Both AMD and nV say that us under $200.

 

[happy medium]

And the mainstream gtx460 and 6850 sell for under 200$ ,but released at over $200.

Both AMD and nV say that us under $200.

No they "said" it was, last year.

Well I know that, but you can't call a $250 card mainstream can you?

To answer your question, yes, today a "mainstream" card can be a $250 gtx560, just like 8 months ago the "mainstream" $230 gtx460 was.
Prices go up, performance follows.
Again ,do expect the mainsteam prices to stay at $230, like the gtx460?

 

[Skurge]

And the mainstream gtx460 and 6850 sell for under 200$ ,but released at over $200.



No they "said" it was, last year.



To answer your question, yes, today a "mainstream" card can be a $250 gtx560, just like 8 months ago the "mainstream" $230 gtx460 was.
Prices go up, performance follows.
Again ,do expect the mainsteam prices to stay at $230, like the gtx460?

6850 was released under $200, they are mainstream cause of the price not the name.

Look at the market research, YOU don't decide what mainstream is, the companies do. They decide that based on the market. Most cards are sold under $200. The price of the card determines whether it is mainstream or not. Not the name, not the performance. Look at all the cards in my sig. All of them were under $200 when I bought them except the 2900. That is mainstream. Most of this forum payed under $200 for their cards including you.

 

[happy medium]

6850 was released under $200, they are mainstream cause of the price not the name.

Look at the market research, YOU don't decide what mainstream is, the companies do. They decide that based on the market. Most cards are sold under $200. The price of the card determines whether it is mainstream or not. Not the name, not the performance. Look at all the cards in my sig. All of them were under $200 when I bought them except the 2900. That is mainstream. Most of this forum payed under $200 for their cards including you.

Ok now it makes sense, the $230 mainstream gtx460 released for Nvidia, and the $209 mainstream 6850 released for AMD. Agreed.:thumbsup:
So lets just say Nvidia upped the mainstream price up 20$ and are calling it the gtx560 for $250. Who cares!

Ok now back on topic please, we are killing this thread with crap.
Thanks.