GTX 560 reviews tomorrow

[happy medium]

You can find a 6950 1gb for 223$ after mail in rebate, on newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-921-_-Product

70$ more expensive?
Are you saying that there are factory overclocked 560's for ~153$ or so?
( 223$ - 70$ = 153$ )

Kinda silly comparing a 6950 1gb to a gtx560. The gtx 560 ti is more in that price range. The gtx 560 ti
factory overclocked Evga gtx560 ti for 214$ AR.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-604-_-Product

The 194$ gtx560 is more in line with the 185$ 6870. Slightly faster for slightly more money, but when both the 6870 and gtx560 are overclocked the 6870 losses out even more.

 

[Arkadrel]

An overclocked 560 is only 5% faster than a 6870, which is ~$20 or so cheaper than the 560. As soon as you overclock the 6870, the 6870 once again becomes the faster card for less money.

Good point, I only thought it terms of the 6950, but yeah the 6870 is still its closest competitor.

 

[happy medium]

Good point, I only thought it terms of the 6950, but yeah the 6870 is still its closest competitor.

The powercolor 6870 just got a price drop on Newegg from just this morning. Yes I have been watching.

Competition is good boys and girls.:thumbsup:

I'll give it a few weeks for the prices to settle and make another video upgrade.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

Kinda silly comparing a 6950 1gb to a gtx560. The gtx 560 ti is more in that price range. The gtx 560 ti
factory overclocked Evga gtx560 ti for 214$ AR.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-604-_-Product

The 194$ gtx560 is more in line with the 185$ 6870. Slightly faster for slightly more money, but when both the 6870 and gtx560 are overclocked the 6870 losses out even more.

WARNING! The GTX 560 is nothing but a more exssspensive 460 overclocked! Save yourself money and just get this $170 shipped GTX 460 OC, which is as fast/faster than 6 out of 8 560s:

$203 shipped
$205 shipped, slower
$206 shipped, slower
$206 shipped, slower
$205 shipped, slower
$235 shipped, slower

FAKT: 560 is more exspsensive and slower. What a huge let down :thumbsdown:

WARNING!!!!!!!!!!

 

[notty22]

Its not that price shipped, its that price after you enter and receive a mail in rebate.

 

[Lonyo]

WARNING! The GTX 560 is nothing but a more exssspensive 460 overclocked! Save yourself money and just get this $170 shipped GTX 460 OC, which is as fast/faster than 6 out of 8 560s:

$203 shipped
$205 shipped, slower
$206 shipped, slower
$206 shipped, slower
$205 shipped, slower
$235 shipped, slower

FAKT: 560 is more exspsensive and slower. What a huge let down :thumbsdown:

WARNING!!!!!!!!!!

Quick make a new thread about it to warn people.

Also notty22, it's still cheaper even before the rebate. $190 shipped before rebate.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

Its not that price shipped, its that price after you enter and receive a mail in rebate.

Now your just making exscuseses.

 

[Firestorm007]

WARNING! The GTX 560 is nothing but a more exssspensive 460 overclocked! Save yourself money and just get this $170 shipped GTX 460 OC, which is as fast/faster than 6 out of 8 560s:

$203 shipped
$205 shipped, slower
$206 shipped, slower
$206 shipped, slower
$205 shipped, slower
$235 shipped, slower

FAKT: 560 is more exspsensive and slower. What a huge let down :thumbsdown:

WARNING!!!!!!!!!!

Where's all the outrage on this? If you're going to due a service for the gaming community as a whole and let them know about of all the conniving name games , then it should be for both vendors, right???

 

[happy medium]

WARNING! The GTX 560 is nothing but a more exssspensive 460 overclocked! Save yourself money and just get this $170 shipped GTX 460 OC, which is as fast/faster than 6 out of 8 560s:

$203 shipped
$205 shipped, slower
$206 shipped, slower
$206 shipped, slower
$205 shipped, slower
$235 shipped, slower

FAKT: 560 is more exspsensive and slower. What a huge let down :thumbsdown:

WARNING!!!!!!!!!!

I see someone has not read the reviews yet, pity.:\

 

[happy medium]

Where's all the outrage on this?

Why would there be outrage? Pleae explain without thread derailing..

 

[kefegg]

Hey how,

reading this makes me think I'm (going to) buy a pumped up 460GTX.
I planned to buy the MSI N560GTX ti II oc...
What about all those benchmarks?
For me it's simple, the higher the number the better it is. Guess that's why I ask the experts here.

 

[Skurge]

Kinda silly comparing a 6950 1gb to a gtx560. The gtx 560 ti is more in that price range. The gtx 560 ti
factory overclocked Evga gtx560 ti for 214$ AR.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-604-_-Product

The 194$ gtx560 is more in line with the 185$ 6870. Slightly faster for slightly more money, but when both the 6870 and gtx560 are overclocked the 6870 losses out even more.

I don't agree with that. The 560 is slower than the 6870 and is more expensive, the overclocked 560s are slower than the overclocked 6870s, but cost as much as 6950 1GBs which is no contest really. The price of the 560 is too close to the 560Ti IMO

 

[Firestorm007]

Why would there be outrage? Pleae explain without thread derailing..

It's not thread derailing. It was a question.

Quoted from Overclockers Club:
NVIDIA is back at the naming scheme game again with the new GTX 560. This card is at the very center of the new NVIDIA generation for performance. Also to note, the Ti moniker added onto the prior GTX 560 makes a big difference now. It is unclear yet if NVIDIA will do the same for the GTX 550 Ti although there is the possibility. For the sake of suppressing some confusion, the GTX 560 is superior in CUDA core count and thus performance over the GTX 550 Ti. The design is very similar to the GF 104 based GTX 460 so it should be quite interesting to see how they compare against each other as the GTX 560 is based on GF 114 silicon

So basically this is nothing more than an overclocked 460 per the article. I'm just wondering Happy, if someone might be better off with a cheaper overclocked 460 for cheaper?

 

[96Firebird]

For now, a cheaper 460 1GB would be a better value. That is, until its stock sells out. Same could be said for the 5850, 5870, etc... The card is almsot always priced to sell when it is EOL.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

I see someone has not read the reviews yet, pity.

You can't argue against the fax: Those 560s are slower and more exsssspenssssive than that 460, which is architecturally the same.

 

[happy medium]

You can't argue against the fax: Those 560s are slower and more exsssspenssssive than that 460, which is architecturally the same.

for your reading pleasure and to get your facts straight.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2165644

 

[cusideabelincoln]

for your reading pleasure and to get your facts straight.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2165644

What is the point in reading a rainbow?

 

[cusideabelincoln]

for your reading pleasure and to get your facts straight.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2165644

Here are some faxes for you. These will set you straighte; Even on outdated drivers the EVGA 460 is faster than most 560s...
http://www.sweclockers.com/recension/13964-asus-geforce-gtx-560-directcu-ii-top/4#pagehead

 

[Lonyo]

for your reading pleasure and to get your facts straight.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2165644

So an 850MHz GTX460 is NOT faster than an 849MHz or slower clocked GTX560?
Because that's what he stated. An 850MHz GTX460 is faster than a sub 850MHz GTX560. Which is true. And your "facts" don't change his fact.
Yes, the GTX560 will probably use less power and might overclock better, but it will also be slower and more expensive, and all he talked about was it being slower as shipped and costing more.

Those 560s

THOSE, as in, the ones he linked in his post. As in the ones which are slower and more expensive than the GTX460 he mentioned. Before and after rebate.

 

[notty22]

So an 850MHz GTX460 is NOT faster than an 849MHz or slower clocked GTX560?
Because that's what he stated. An 850MHz GTX460 is faster than a sub 850MHz GTX560. Which is true. And your "facts" don't change his fact.
Yes, the GTX560 will probably use less power and might overclock better, but it will also be slower and more expensive, and all he talked about was it being slower as shipped and costing more.


THOSE, as in, the ones he linked in his post. As in the ones which are slower and more expensive than the GTX460 he mentioned. Before and after rebate.

The 560 is going to be faster, because it benefits from higher memory clocks across the board. Something gtx 460's can't reach in any o/c attempts. It must be a benefit of the 'electrical enhancements' at the transistor level.
And I already have no doubt the 560's reach higher core clocks than o/c gtx 460's. With reports of 950-975 without voltage adjust. And a Asus model factory clocked at 920. Its a better gpu than the gtx 460.

 

[Lonyo]

The 560 is going to be faster, because it benefits from higher memory clocks across the board. Something gtx 460's can't reach in any o/c attempts. It must be a benefit of the 'electrical enhancements' at the transistor level.
And I already have no doubt the 560's reach higher core clocks than o/c gtx 460's. With reports of 950-975 without voltage adjust. And a Asus model factory clocked at 920. Its a better gpu than the gtx 460.

4008MHz for the highest memory clock on a 560 with lower core clock vs 3900MHz for the 460.
So 2.7% memory deficit vs minimum of 2.4% core clock increase comparing cards as they ship.
So a maximum of 2.7% on the RAM is going to overcome a minimum of 2.4% on the core?

Yes, the 560 will overclock better and probably use less power, but an 850MHz GTX460 with 3900MHz RAM is going to be faster than an 810MHz GTX560 with 4000MHz RAM.
Do you really really really really think the 560 will be faster? Really?

 

[happy medium]

Yes, the 560 will overclock better and probably use less power, but an 850MHz GTX460 with 3900MHz RAM is going to be faster than an 810MHz GTX560 with 4000MHz RAM.
Do you really really really really think the 560 will be faster? Really?

What the difference? Its comes down to customer choice.

Would you rather have a cooler running, less power consuming, quieter, much higher overclocking EVGA gtx560 @ 850 core for 27$ more AR (with a free 10 year warranty) or pay 27$ less AR for a Evga gtx460 @ 850 core and only a 3 year warranty?

EVGA gtx560 @ 850 core, 197$AR with free 10 year warranty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-661-_-Product

EVGA gtx460 @ 850 core for 170$AR with 3 year warranty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130596

I guess it depends on your needs.

 

[faseman]

WARNING! The GTX 560 is nothing but a more exssspensive 460 overclocked! Save yourself money and just get this $170 shipped GTX 460 OC, which is as fast/faster than 6 out of 8 560s:

$203 shipped
$205 shipped, slower
$206 shipped, slower
$206 shipped, slower
$205 shipped, slower
$235 shipped, slower

FAKT: 560 is more exspsensive and slower. What a huge let down :thumbsdown:

WARNING!!!!!!!!!!

I got a good laugh out of this. You got his character perfectly. I wonder if he even realises, heh.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

Would you rather have a cooler running, less power consuming, quieter, much higher overclocking EVGA gtx560 @ 850 core for 27$ more AR (with a free 10 year warranty) or pay 27$ less AR for a Evga gtx460 @ 850 core and only a 3 year warranty?

There really isn't any difference:

 

[happy medium]

There really isn't any difference:

In what? You just proved my point.

gtx460 ftw @ 850 core = 311 watts
gtx560 "base" = 850 core = 294 watts ( they did not test reference models)
17 watts difference


Asus gtx560 TOP @ 925 core = 310 watts.
Evga gtx460 ftw @ 850 core = 311 watts
Less power and more clock speed for the gtx560.

reference gtx460 1gb @ 675 core = 291 watts vs gtx560 @ 810+ core @ 294 watts.
3 watts more for 135 more core speed.

Thats no difference?