GS 4 is verizons first LTE advanced phone!!!

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OBLAMA2009

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i have to say, here in sf, its sorely needed, ive noticed my lte speeds are rarely over 10mbps these days and 5-6 is more typical
 
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s44

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You misread the article. It's noting that it's Verizon's first with the AWS band, which will enable a *huge* LTE bandwidth increase in major cities.
 
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s44 said:
You misread the article. It's noting that it's Verizon's first with the AWS band, which will enable a *huge* LTE bandwidth increase in major cities.
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Actually, since it's just going to be LTE, not LTE-Advanced, there's no carrier aggregation between different wireless bands yet, which means your phone will need to hop over to AWS LTE to use it instead of the 700Mhz Upper C band. It will only help with network congestion, not peak speeds.
 
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dagamer34 said:
Actually, since it's just going to be LTE, not LTE-Advanced, there's no carrier aggregation between different wireless bands yet, which means your phone will need to hop over to AWS LTE to use it instead of the 700Mhz Upper C band. It will only help with network congestion, not peak speeds.
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Verizon AWS is 2*20, which allows for much greater thoroughput than the 2*10 they're running on Band 13.

But yes, the really important element is system-wide, not per individual device. What we're talking about is actually being able to use LTE at all hours in Manhattan, not being stuck on 3G half the time during the day because the towers are overloaded.

EDIT: the main worry, of course, is the software update. Will the new radio require installing a fully secure bootloader? I don't *think* they can make that happen, but I'm sure they'd like to try.
 
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s44 said:
Verizon AWS is 2*20, which allows for much greater thoroughput than the 2*10 they're running on Band 13.

But yes, the really important element is system-wide, not per individual device. What we're talking about is actually being able to use LTE at all hours in Manhattan, not being stuck on 3G half the time during the day because the towers are overloaded.

EDIT: the main worry, of course, is the software update. Will the new radio require installing a fully secure bootloader? I don't *think* they can make that happen, but I'm sure they'd like to try.
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is this going to mean cheaper/larger data plans, so we can start watching video on lte?
 
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OBLAMA2009 said:
is this going to mean cheaper/larger data plans?
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All the North American non-CDMA HTC Ones already support the AWS bands (in addition to 700 MHz) for LTE because that's what T-Mobile and the 3 main Canadian carriers use for LTE.
 
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I did a speed test here in ATL using my Nokia 822 as a hotspot- my house (in the suburbs) which shows 2 bars of LTE and typically gets 10-12Mbps download speeds and her house close to downtown which shows 5 bars of LTE- 32Mbps. Impressive since her Comcast cable would only do 11. I use my phone as a hotspot for my home internet now since ATT dsl is just awful. I don't know how that company stays in business.
 
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Dari

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What's the point of having faster speeds when there are caps? I have the cheapest Verizon plan because I'm usually in a place with wifi and there is just too much free wifi in Manhattan to take these data caps seriously. When the wireless companies start offering truly unlimited data services then I'll take them seriously because it'll allow me to dump Time Warner. Until then, not remotely interested.
 
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Dari said:
What's the point of having faster speeds when there are caps? I have the cheapest Verizon plan because I'm usually in a place with wifi and there is just too much free wifi in Manhattan to take these data caps seriously. When the wireless companies start offering truly unlimited data services then I'll take them seriously because it'll allow me to dump Time Warner. Until then, not remotely interested.
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3G is much slower than rated at times, and LTE helps with congestion. I'm not downloading 1080p movies on my phone, but I want the speed when needed. Say the latest Ingress update or whatever. And I want to be able to use my phone in a crowded area while having 3G HSPA, HSDPA, UMTS to fall back on and even possibly EDGE. Furthermore, 4G LTE is about race to idle.
 
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Dari said:
What's the point of having faster speeds when there are caps? I have the cheapest Verizon plan because I'm usually in a place with wifi and there is just too much free wifi in Manhattan to take these data caps seriously. When the wireless companies start offering truly unlimited data services then I'll take them seriously because it'll allow me to dump Time Warner. Until then, not remotely interested.
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Until wifi covers every square inch of land mass, I'm not interested in relying on wifi.
 
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MrX8503 said:
Until wifi covers every square inch of land mass, I'm not interested in relying on wifi.
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I don't rely on it. Then again, I mostly check email and texts on my phone, in addition to making and receiving phone calls. I don't have any social network accounts and I don't have anything else, aside from email, that is heavily reliant on highspeed internet access. But, TBH, the one thing holding me back is the lack of truly unlimited internet access.
 
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s44

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At least half the time when I try to use free wifi on my tablet around NYC I give up at the crappy latency/speed/inability to get an IP and end up tethering to LTE instead.
 
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MrX8503 said:
Until wifi covers every square inch of land mass, I'm not interested in relying on wifi.
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Yeah it's annoying to have to look for a wifi AP and then to connect to it to try to get an IP and finally agree to the terms and conditions. While that's fine, how much time do you spend wasting? I remember doing this when I carried my laptop around back in the day. War driving was it? The point of having internet on a phone is to have instant access.

I remember my ex would always try to look for wifi with her iPod Touch so she could post a photo or whatever or check-in on whatever that rival to Foursquare was back in the day. Data plan = win. Looking for wifi = looking for change in a vending machine to buy a coke.
 
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MrX8503

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I don't even try to attempt to connect to wifi unless its a well known establishment like Starbucks or McD's. Most of the time the wifi at other places is shoddy and doesn't even work.
 
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OBLAMA2009

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MrX8503 said:
I don't even try to attempt to connect to wifi unless its a well known establishment like Starbucks or McD's. Most of the time the wifi at other places is shoddy and doesn't even work.
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...and extremely SLOOOWWWWWW
 
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