News Group believing in big lie, brings back 2 ballot proposals reworded to AR AG. One proposal would make AR paper only election state.

[Amol S.]

The Arkansas election restoration group that believes there was fraud in 2020, has once again came and handed the same proposal that was rejected a month ago by the AG (athough updated according to the news report) just a few hours back. There are two ballot proposals here, the first proposal will only authorize the use of paper ballots in the election, the other would place restrictions in absentee ballots. Obviously this is as dumb as one can be, as Trump was no where near to even loosing Arkansas. As the Arkansas AG office has just received this, there is no word from the AG yet of whether these measures will be seen in the 2024 ballot. Although the group pushing for this ballot initiative still must get 50k votes total from at least 50 counties in the state, if the AG were to allow it to be on 2024, I doubt the group would have any trouble finding 50k hard core Trumpanzees in the state of Arkansas. Thus the only thing in theory stopping the ballot measure to be on the 2024 balot is the AG's decision.

Proposed ballot measures resubmitted to AG’s office

The proposed ballot measures that would change how elections are conducted were resubmitted to the Arkansas attorney general's office on Tuesday.

www.kait8.com

https://www.kark.com/news/your-local-election-hq/proposed-ballot-measures-resubmitted-to-arkansas-attorneys-general-office/

 

[esquared]

The abbreviation for Arkansas is AR.
Alaska is AK.

 

[IronWing]

Arizona requires paper ballots. <shrug>

 

[Amol S.]

The abbreviation for Arkansas is AR.
Alaska is AK.

Fixed it.

 

[Jaskalas]

Paper ballots are a reasonable concession to balm the wound that crazies are poking at US Democracy.
Problem comes... once you solve that gripe, their batshit brains will latch onto whatever the next conspiracy is.
That our people are actually insane, AND want to overthrow our Democracy to instill their use of force... is not something that is solvable.

But if you play the game and put up appearances, if you act reasonable, maybe... MAYBE you'll peel off enough support from them to make a difference later. It won't be much, but sometimes you don't need much. It's an easy win for us. No reason not to take that from them.

 

[DaaQ]

The Arkansas election restoration group that believes there was fraud in 2020, has once again came and handed the same proposal that was rejected a month ago by the AG (athough updated according to the news report) just a few hours back. There are two ballot proposals here, the first proposal will only authorize the use of paper ballots in the election, the other would place restrictions in absentee ballots. Obviously this is as dumb as one can be, as Trump was no where near to even loosing Arkansas. As the Arkansas AG office has just received this, there is no word from the AG yet of whether these measures will be seen in the 2024 ballot. Although the group pushing for this ballot initiative still must get 50k votes total from at least 50 counties in the state, if the AG were to allow it to be on 2024, I doubt the group would have any trouble finding 50k hard core Trumpanzees in the state of Arkansas. Thus the only thing in theory stopping the ballot measure to be on the 2024 balot is the AG's decision.

Proposed ballot measures resubmitted to AG’s office

The proposed ballot measures that would change how elections are conducted were resubmitted to the Arkansas attorney general's office on Tuesday.

www.kait8.com

https://www.kark.com/news/your-local-election-hq/proposed-ballot-measures-resubmitted-to-arkansas-attorneys-general-office/

Pretty sure the same rules would apply or at least should apply here.

Over here in my county, it is a DRY county, have voted twice to change it on ballot initiatives, but the last one did NOT make it to the Ballot. Why you might ask? Because the County Clerk and others involved with the process, went through ALL of the signatures, removed the double or multiples, removed ones not registered to vote, removed the ones that did not live or were not registered in this county, and thus did NOT pass the threshold by about 150 to maybe 300 signatures to get the allowance of the sale of alcohol in this county.

So the 3 surrounding counties get the extra tax money, plus the one in the state below me, but not ours.

Even bigger ah heck is our property is taxed by the neighboring county, which went wet, and behind my garage, I could have technically opened a Liquor store, when I checked 7 of 8 had been granted. They built a new marina 2 miles from me.

 

[iRONic]

The C’monWealth of KY!

 

[DaaQ]

I like the C'monWealth part. Nice

 

[Fenixgoon]

so they want voting to be slower, less accurate, and hate active duty/deployed military?

 

[HomerJS]

“Restrictions on absentee ballots” mean in majority minority districts.

They are looking for a way to disenfranchise minorities. Just about all of Trump challenges and complaints came from the cities

 

[Fenixgoon]

“Restrictions on absentee ballots” mean in majority minority districts.

They are looking for a way to disenfranchise minorities. Just about all of Trump challenges and complaints came from the cities

100% facts.
The reason I picked active duty military is because we all know how much conservatives support the troops (tm).
It's really just cover to disenfranchise minority districts like you said

 

[portal_in_life]

100% facts.
The reason I picked active duty military is because we all know how much conservatives support the troops (tm).
It's really just cover to disenfranchise minority districts like you said

How does voting ID laws hurt minority groups? If it does not hurt White people, then it should not hurt minority groups as well.

 

[Pohemi]

It's nothing but political theater, and disenfranchisement. As well as prepping more fuckery in the future.
But as others have said, it wouldn't be an end-of-the-world concession. Let's hope it doesn't get that far.

How does voting ID laws hurt minority groups? If it does not hurt White people, then it should not hurt minority groups as well.

If you hadn't noticed, the discussion wasn't about voting ID laws. It's about mandating paper ballots. Keep up.

But to answer your question, minorities are less likely to have the resources to get an ID, or transportation to polling places/ballot boxes. And exactly why Republicans try to cancel and limit select area's polling places and drop boxes. It sure as hell isn't because of fraud.

 

[HomerJS]

How does voting ID laws hurt minority groups? If it does not hurt White people, then it should not hurt minority groups as well.

Republicans rushed to enact changes to voting rules and voter ID laws after the Shelby decision. That part of the VRA required approval before making changes to check for disparate outcome. Soon as that was stuck the floodgates opened. Here is a Republican official in PA admitting the real reason for voter ID

Republicans choose a form of ID they know isn't widely held by people of color. (Drivers license in big cities)

Republicans close polling locations in large minority districts.

GA for example black districts had the longest waiting times.

This is just for starters. If you need more I can provide.

 

[iRONic]

Every one of those keystrokes wasted…

 

[uallas5]

Mass voter here, we still use paper ballots. I've never even seen an electronic voting machine other than on TV. It's all pretty easy though, you fill in the bubbles with the felt pens in the booths, then feed your ballot through the optical scanner and yer done. While it's a good, solid system, a state getting rid of its electronic system and spending all the time and money to go to paper seems pretty ridiculous.

 

[Pohemi]

While it's a good, solid system, a state getting rid of its electronic system and spending all the time and money to go to paper seems pretty ridiculous.

Don't forget putting tight qualifiers on being able to use absentee/mail-in ballots. Have to use every possible tool to limit voting for those "darkies", dontcha know.

 

[portal_in_life]

It's nothing but political theater, and disenfranchisement. As well as prepping more fuckery in the future.
But as others have said, it wouldn't be an end-of-the-world concession. Let's hope it doesn't get that far.

If you hadn't noticed, the discussion wasn't about voting ID laws. It's about mandating paper ballots. Keep up.

But to answer your question, minorities are less likely to have the resources to get an ID, or transportation to polling places/ballot boxes. And exactly why Republicans try to cancel and limit select area's polling places and drop boxes. It sure as hell isn't because of fraud.

That is not my problem that they can't get to the polling place or do not have the resources to get an ID. They have to go thru the same process I have to go thru in the state of Texas. What is so hard about getting the resources in order to obtain the required ID. Life is life, and can sometimes be unfair. If you can't get the required ID to vote, to bad as I said, life is life and can be unfair sometimes.

Republicans rushed to enact changes to voting rules and voter ID laws after the Shelby decision. That part of the VRA required approval before making changes to check for disparate outcome. Soon as that was stuck the floodgates opened. Here is a Republican official in PA admitting the real reason for voter ID

Republicans choose a form of ID they know isn't widely held by people of color. (Drivers license in big cities)

Republicans close polling locations in large minority districts.

GA for example black districts had the longest waiting times.

This is just for starters. If you need more I can provide.

If have more info then please share.

 

[Pohemi]

'Because I could do it, they can too! It's not my problem!'

Heard that hundreds of times on these boards. It's either ignorant or dishonest.

The translation is 'fuck em if they can't do what I can'. Disenfranchise people, and then project the blame for it on them.

 

[zinfamous]

Can you learn to write a fucking thread title that isn't a fucking novel?

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

I do the paper through the scanner ... that isn't a 'voting machine'? Huh. Who knew.

I've always had to show ID to vote. Never not have had to. Shruggs

 

[Leeea]

CA voter here.

We use paper ballets.

They show up in the mail. We fill them out, and mail them back.

Really easy.

 

[brycejones]

CA voter here.

We use paper ballets.

They show up in the mail. We fill them out, and mail them back.

Really easy.

Yeah that isn't the kind of paper ballots they are talking about.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Yeah that isn't the kind of paper ballots they are talking about.

Is it the kind that only gets allocated in the hundreds for inner city ballot locations, thus limiting voting capacity for minorities? Those are great.

 

[Fenixgoon]

That is not my problem that they can't get to the polling place or do not have the resources to get an ID. They have to go thru the same process I have to go thru in the state of Texas. What is so hard about getting the resources in order to obtain the required ID. Life is life, and can sometimes be unfair. If you can't get the required ID to vote, to bad as I said, life is life and can be unfair sometimes.


If have more info then please share.

Fighting Voter ID Requirements | American Civil Liberties Union

The ACLU works in courts, legislatures, and communities to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties that the Constitution and the laws of the United States guarantee everyone in this country.

www.aclu.org

Voter ID already takes place at registration. If you fraudulently register to vote, you've now committed a felony. So people tend not to do that.

Anything beyond that is disenfranchisement. Because our existing voter fraud rate is basically zero (in the range of 1 in 300,000 to 1 in 1,000,000 across the entire country of ~150M votes cast), and because voting is so fundamental to a strong democracy that we should be making voting easier, not harder.


Texas, for example, allows concealed weapons permits to be used as a valid ID. But it doesn't allow the use of Texas university IDs.

PolitiFact: Take gun license, but not student ID, to Texas polls

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, campaigning in Texas, called for citizens to be automatically registered to vote at age 18. Speaking at Texas Southern University, Clinton also...

www.statesman.com

So who gets to vote - and who doesn't - in this scenario?