Gripes about Win2000

Ultima

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It doesn't remember my display settings. If I switch resolutions, it will go to 85hz, 75hz, or whatever it feels like. If I had 1024*768 set to 100hz, then I switch to 800*600, when I switch back to 1024*768 it will be back at default.
You can't even stick the thing on the systray like in 98/95...
Games also seem stuck at 60, 75, or 85 hz....

The audio drivers really suck. It's like directx is enabled all the time. It lets multiple programs play sound at the same time, but doesn't give me any control over that. Another minus for microsoft. If I want that ability I'll set my programs to directx sound, ok MS? This also makes the sound MUCH more lag-prone. While in 95 or 98 you could have total and complete lag and mp3s would never skip cause winamp just wouldn't quite run out of its 2second buffer, with win2000 it doesn't matter, winamp will cut off even after 200ms even if it has plenty of buffer left, because it's just like directx.

The APM support really sucks ass. Windows 95 can shut off the PC and go into suspend without having to be set up or anything. Windows 98 works the same way. With 2000, the suspend feature isn't even available, and shutdown doesn't work right. It turns off the hard-drive, but reboots the computer thus making the hard-drive spin down and then back up for nothing.

The version of scandisk that w2k uses really sucks ass. It's like some version of chkdsk from my PC DOS 6.0 I had 6 or 7 years ago...

The OS also often likes to access the A: drive for some reason. Oftentimes I will hear a weird click noise come from the PC when I do something, and i've found that it comes from the floppy drive. When I first boot up the OS, the floppy light stays on until I stick a disk in.

I applied all critical updates.
You think after all this time, Microsoft would spend some time getting rid of these bugs?


As a side note, I really, really hate Media Player 7.0. It's one of the biggest piles of crap ever to come out of Microsoft Headquarters. It takes 5 or 6 times more CPU then Winamp to play an MP3, and that's without equalizer. If I enable the equalizer It shoots up to 100% and the MP3 starts skipping horribly. There's no way to disable the crappy visualization effects which lag like hell that I can see. When you rip a song off of a CD it doesn't even tell you or ask you were to put it, and you can only rip in WMA format. Again.. MS should have just stuck to the original "mplayer.exe" (or at least the design they had in 6.0 which wasn't that bad) which doesn't come with or even work in w2k.
 

AndyHui

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You can upgrade the defragger in Win2K using this:

Diskeeper Upgrade

Run the file, and then let it abort. Then go to the temp directory and install using DiskeeperWorkstation.MSI.

The boot time defragmentation will let you defrag the swap file.
 

Ultima

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I just TOTALLY messed up W2k.. I changed Standard PC to ACPI PC.
That totally messed up the install, and I had to load up my windows 95 install so I could run the setup on the cd and do an emergency repair...
It replaced a whole bunch of files... will things be messed up now? Will I have to re-download SP1 and other things..?
 

Supergax

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You sure about the Media Player 7? I have w2k pro and it came with media player 6.4, which just so happens to work fine.
 

AndyHui

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You could have booted from the Win2K CD and ran Repair from there rather than load up Win95.
 

Ultima

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And media player 7 was from windows update..

so do you guys think I should reformat to avoid problems down the road, or just force-download updates off the windows update site?
 

Steven the Leech

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My Gripe: &quot;It is too stable&quot; I miss formatting every month ot two, &quot;the games i play look too darn good&quot;.


A legit complaint &quot;Soundblaster liveware doesnt support dolby digital in 2k
 

owensdj

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Ultima, why do you think any one of us cares what you dislike about an operating system that you appear to have illegally copied? If you haven't paid your fair share for the software, you certainly don't have the right to complain about the product.

Ultima, I suggest you go back to a kiddy, gamer operating system like Windows 95/98. That's more your speed.
 

Ultima

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Save the insults for the OT forum please.

Now if anyone out there has anything useful to say on this, I'd appreciate it, thx.
And don't get mad at me because I can't boot the CD.. not my fault I have an old CD-ROM drive.
 

RSI

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owensdj, has anyone ever told you how much of an ass you are?

Ultima, it seems that you're having more trouble with 2k than most people (including me), I don't know why though. For me, it does everything quite well, and games run equally/faster in 2000 than in 98.

I don't like the CD player though. I agree completely on your thoughts regarding the new version (7) of Microsoft's Media Player - it's quite the bloat.

All other things considered though, Windows 2000 is quite a good operating system, but if you're strictly a gamer, it may not be for you. It is more aimed for the business type people.

-RSI
 

owensdj

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RSI, not really any insults in my post. I was just saying that IF Ultima didn't pay for Win2K(not saying he did, just that it looks like it), then he doesn't have the right to complain about it. Also, he seems to be heavily into games and thinks Win95/98 is so much better than Win2K, so that's why I said he'd be better off going back to Win95/98.

Also, he's post is mostly just one long rant about what he hates about Win2K. He complains about how bad Media Player version 7 is in Win2K when the reality is that version 6 comes with Win2K. Geez.

 

Ultima

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As you said, &quot;no offense&quot;, but did you even read my posts?

I said that as a SIDE note, and later I mentioned that I had downloaded it off of windows update. Also, where do I saw that I'm really into games? I just mentioned that when I do play them, that it doesn't set the monitor refresh to optimum. This same problem is prevalent with the desktop.

Next time, try reading before insulting or assuming.
 

Ultima

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And also, where do I say that I think that Win98/95 are so much better then 2k? Another false statement on your part. I simply said that they handle APM management better then W2K.

I think RSI's comment about you is valid.
 

Ultima

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Well the refresh rate problems seem fixed. I am now using a 3dfx beta driver instead of a win2k one. Seems to be working fine :)
 

owensdj

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Ultima, I'm glad you got your refresh rate problem fixed.

I now see that in a later post you do say that you got Media Player 7 from Windows Update. However, in your original post you say &quot;MS should have just stuck to the original 'mplayer.exe' (or at least the design they had in 6.0 which wasn't that bad) which doesn't come with or even work in w2k.&quot; Sounds like to me you're saying Media Player 6 doesn't come with Win2K. I was only replying to your original post.

Ultima, good luck with fixing the rest of your problems.
 

Shudder

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Does MS know that so many people hate WMP7? I'm wondering about that. As long as my mplayer2.exe doesn't magically disappear, aka MS Update Deletion, I'll be happy.

And Windows 2000 is pretty darned good. I haven't been this happy with a MS OS since Dos 5.
 

StanTheMan

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Hi..
My mobo is DFI K6BV3+. I used to have a problem with win2k shutdown when I turn on APM feature. The problem is now solved via BIOS update from DFI's beta website.
 

Ultima

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Well the audio thing isn't really a &quot;bug&quot;, just a feature that I wish could be disabled, but since this is a microsoft product, of course it can't be disabled.

What I meant by the original mplayer.exe, is the player that you had in 95 and 98, (Not the &quot;Windows Media Player&quot;, but the one that looks like the player you had in 3.1).

None of the patches have helped APM and I don't want to screw up my computer in a BIOS update (I've already done a couple), so I'm just gonna leave it as is.

As for refresh rate, UnrealTournament seems to want to stay stuck at 60 hz :( Changing the &quot;Glide refresh rate&quot; didn't help that either. Oh well.. I don't play games much anymore anyways. :)

Thanks to everyone who's helped/will help on this subject :)

 

Spiff

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Ultima, mplayer2 is the player that comes with Win9x... and with Win2k. It does not exist in WinME unfortunately.

Even if you use MS update to upgrade to MP7, mplayer2 executable still resides on the hard drive and still works. The nifty little thing about this is that it uses all the updates codecs too... So run mplayer2 (which is MP v 6.4) and ignore MP7. That's what I do
 

SUOrangeman

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Stop bad-mouthing WinME. It has WMP 6.4 (mplayer2.exe is there).

-SUO, WinME beta tester