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"Grim" news for Republicans

deftron

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The only age group McCain won was 65+

Obama carried

18-29

30-45

46-65



By the time the next election rolls around, many of the 65+ may not
be around.

It's like Murder, She Wrote reruns ... eventually your fanbase dies out and it ends

 

dahunan

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They only voted for McCain because they have been brainwashed through the years
 

retrospooty

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Originally posted by: deftron

It's like Murder, She Wrote reruns ... eventually your fanbase dies out and it ends
LOL...


But dont count them out for long. They will regroup, shuffle toward the center and have a clear message for the 2016 election.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: loki8481
I thought McCain also carried whites, though by smaller margins than Bush?
That's another shrinking demographic as a percentage of the electorate.

Latinos are becoming a huge, powerful bloc.
 

shurato

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Originally posted by: deftron

The only age group McCain won was 65+

Obama carried

18-29

30-45

46-65



By the time the next election rolls around, many of the 65+ may not
be around.

It's like Murder, She Wrote reruns ... eventually your fanbase dies out and it ends
I had to vote at a retirement community today. I was the only non retired person in line to vote
while I was there today.

Just some interesting things I overheard..

I had someone behind me talking about living through the great
depression and Herbert Hoover... One gentleman was very frantic about the stock market tommorow. I had several people around me call Obama a socialist,
sleazebag, etc. I also heard something ironic from one elderly gentleman... He said he feared Obama will in essence take money from corporations, the money that is supposed to be used for their retirement programs. I guess he doesn't hear about the corporate execs with the millions and millions of dollars in compensation packages, etc driving these companies to the ground.
It was a bit depressing but an interesting experience. Oh and it took me 1.5 hours to vote while
my friends who went to go vote at the same time took 10 minutes at their respective voting locations... mehh can't complain, was to be expected as I voted there in the last election cycle.

This was in MD.
 

ProfJohn

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Jul 28, 2006
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I don't think the 'grim' news was in the Presidential election, but in the local and state races.

The Presidency goes back and forth every 4-8 years. But the local people tend to hold power longer. The seats we lost in the North East today may never come back, and that is the scary thing.

No matter how bad tonight ends though we are in better shape than we were in 1974. And we should remember that four bad years under Carter ushered in an amazing period of Republican control of the White House. 20 of the last 28 years, not a bad run.
 

nageov3t

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the grimmest news is probably that the last two moderate, new england republicans got shown the door thanks to party-line votes.
 

Bitek

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The R's are fucked for a while. Barring a huge D disaster, the Dems will control the house for perhaps decades. The Senate will be firm for a while, and all the racist, xenophobic paranoid lamenting the Palineque sentiments has provoked a huge backlash in all the upcoming voter generations and minority blocks.
Who is going to unfuck them from this corner? Palin in 2012? No she's a sign of the problem. A cancer on the R's as David Brooks would say.

The R party will burn itself down in the crucible of extremism and ideological purity, and become less and less relevant. Eventually there will be a transformational figure to turn it around, but the current trajectory does not bode well for many many years.
 

konakona

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Originally posted by: Bitek
The R's are fucked for a while. Barring a huge D disaster, the Dems will control the house for perhaps decades. The Senate will be firm for a while, and all the racist, xenophobic paranoid lamenting the Palineque sentiments has provoked a huge backlash in all the upcoming voter generations and minority blocks.
Who is going to unfuck them from this corner? Palin in 2012? No she's a sign of the problem. A cancer on the R's as David Brooks would say.

The R party will burn itself down in the crucible of extremism and ideological purity, and become less and less relevant. Eventually there will be a transformational figure to turn it around, but the current trajectory does not bode well for many many years.
That if she crawls herself out of her bag of scandals? I am not convinced at all about the Troopergate. Can she even sustain a political career after all this and more to come?
 

Wreckem

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Sep 23, 2006
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Originally posted by: Bitek
The R's are fucked for a while. Barring a huge D disaster, the Dems will control the house for perhaps decades. The Senate will be firm for a while, and all the racist, xenophobic paranoid lamenting the Palineque sentiments has provoked a huge backlash in all the upcoming voter generations and minority blocks.
Who is going to unfuck them from this corner? Palin in 2012? No she's a sign of the problem. A cancer on the R's as David Brooks would say.

The R party will burn itself down in the crucible of extremism and ideological purity, and become less and less relevant. Eventually there will be a transformational figure to turn it around, but the current trajectory does not bode well for many many years.
Dont be to optimistic. The people of the US didnt give the Dems a blank check to go do whatever far left thing they want. If Obama doesnt follow through with his message of "change in Washington" doing away with partisan politics, etc. And tries to push every bit of legislation the far left wants, the Dems will be out of power just as quick as the regained their power.

This country is comprised of mostly moderates. The Dem majority is built on moderates. What has essentially happened over the past 4 years was the moderate republicans got replaced with moderate democrats.

If Obama the President does the same thing as Obama the Senator, Im not that certain he will be re-elected in 2012.
 

SlickSnake

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"Grim" news for Republicans"
Screw the Repulikrats. They made their damn holier than thou, "burn in hell if you don't agree with us" beds, now they can lie in the filth they dished out to others, like the disenfranchised poor, minorities and even gays.

14 Points of fascism: The warning signs

This is the hate and fear mongering fascist country they gave us over the span of 8 years. They need to go back to the unholy hell that spawned them. They can still beat that worn out Bible to death, but GOD don't want them, either.

Mark Twain said it best:
"Go to heaven for the atmosphere, go to hell for the company"
And holier than thou nonthinking robot clone Republikrat Bible thumpers trying to save the world for Jesus while ignoring their own massive faults make the most God awful company.
 

Starbuck1975

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Jan 6, 2005
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This is the hate and fear mongering fascist country they gave us over the span of 8 years. They need to go back to the unholy hell that spawned them. They can still beat that worn out Bible to death, but GOD don't want them, either.
The whole fascism paranoia argument kind of died on the vine tonight...the beauty of America is that when one political party overcompensates towards one extreme on the ideological scale, the American people tend to pull the nation back to the center with a transfer of power.

Don't worry...liberals are just as capable of playing 1984 as well in the name of saving individuals from themselves.

By the time the next election rolls around, many of the 65+ may not be around.
And many of the college aged young people who supported Obama will enter the workforce, and the 20 and 30 somethings will advance in their careers...and will hit that inevitable scenario of asking the government "you want to take how much of paycheck?"

Responsibility, managing a household and paying taxes tends to cleanse the idealism of youth fairly quickly...look what happened to the Baby Boomers...the anti-establishment generation became the poster children of consumerism.
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: deftron

It's like Murder, She Wrote reruns ... eventually your fanbase dies out and it ends
LOL...


But dont count them out for long. They will regroup, shuffle toward the center and have a clear message for the 2016 election.
They need to move more right. They don't have nearly enough prayer meetings.
 

irishScott

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Oct 10, 2006
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By the time the next election rolls around, the country may very well be screaming for a Republican President/Senate/etc. Obama's big on promise, now let's see if he delivers before attempting to predict the future.
 

Fox5

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Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
This is the hate and fear mongering fascist country they gave us over the span of 8 years. They need to go back to the unholy hell that spawned them. They can still beat that worn out Bible to death, but GOD don't want them, either.
The whole fascism paranoia argument kind of died on the vine tonight...the beauty of America is that when one political party overcompensates towards one extreme on the ideological scale, the American people tend to pull the nation back to the center with a transfer of power.

Don't worry...liberals are just as capable of playing 1984 as well in the name of saving individuals from themselves.

By the time the next election rolls around, many of the 65+ may not be around.
And many of the college aged young people who supported Obama will enter the workforce, and the 20 and 30 somethings will advance in their careers...and will hit that inevitable scenario of asking the government "you want to take how much of paycheck?"

Responsibility, managing a household and paying taxes tends to cleanse the idealism of youth fairly quickly...look what happened to the Baby Boomers...the anti-establishment generation became the poster children of consumerism.
Well, the Republican party hasn't been fiscally conservative in quite a while. It either needs to get pushed back toward fiscal conservatism, or a new party will rise from its ashes.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Aug 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: konakona
Originally posted by: Bitek
The R's are fucked for a while. Barring a huge D disaster, the Dems will control the house for perhaps decades. The Senate will be firm for a while, and all the racist, xenophobic paranoid lamenting the Palineque sentiments has provoked a huge backlash in all the upcoming voter generations and minority blocks.
Who is going to unfuck them from this corner? Palin in 2012? No she's a sign of the problem. A cancer on the R's as David Brooks would say.

The R party will burn itself down in the crucible of extremism and ideological purity, and become less and less relevant. Eventually there will be a transformational figure to turn it around, but the current trajectory does not bode well for many many years.
That if she crawls herself out of her bag of scandals? I am not convinced at all about the Troopergate. Can she even sustain a political career after all this and more to come?
I was wondering whether the Alaskans were voting for McCain in such large numbers in the hope they'd finally be rid of her ;)
 

Starbuck1975

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Well, the Republican party hasn't been fiscally conservative in quite a while. It either needs to get pushed back toward fiscal conservatism, or a new party will rise from its ashes.
Agreed, but that is the nature of our political process, and it is healthy.
 

microbial

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Thanks (but no thanks) to the GWB administration of all corruption, all the time.

GWB get out of my house.
 

StageLeft

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The repugs have a hell of a task ahead of them if they want to gain back majority power again. This was a major repudiation of them and Bush. If he was a better man he'd probably realize that people loathe his presidency and consider him a disaster, but then part of this lack of self-awareness is the cause for those problems.
 

techs

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Sep 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: loki8481
the grimmest news is probably that the last two moderate, new england republicans got shown the door thanks to extremist Republican policies that made it impossible for a moderate Republican to win.
Fixed.


 

PepePeru

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
The repugs have a hell of a task ahead of them if they want to gain back majority power again. This was a major repudiation of them and Bush. If he was a better man he'd probably realize that people loathe his presidency and consider him a disaster, but then part of this lack of self-awareness is the cause for those problems.
we don't pay attention to polls.



 

Genx87

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Apr 8, 2002
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It is grim but this is the best thing to happen to them. It slaps them in the face to figure it out and any blame for the govt fucking up will fall squarely on those in power(democrats).

In 2010 and 2012 if the Demcrats fuck this up they will have nobody to blame but themselves and I expect the American people to hold them accountable. Like they have for so many generations.
 

FuzzyBee

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Originally posted by: Genx87
It is grim but this is the best thing to happen to them. It slaps them in the face to figure it out and any blame for the govt fucking up will fall squarely on those in power(democrats).

In 2010 and 2012 if the Demcrats fuck this up they will have nobody to blame but themselves and I expect the American people to hold them accountable. Like they have for so many generations.
C'mon - you know everything bad over the next dozen years will be GWB's fault.
 

NeoV

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actually the 65+ bracket is going to larger and larger over the next few elections

If Americans really held the party in power to blame for things gone wrong, how do you explain GWB being re-elected 4 years ago?
 

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