"Green" Shoppers More Likely to Cheat and Steal.

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Are ‘Green’ Consumers Less Trustworthy?
By TOM ZELLER JR.


\The Guardian newspaper picked this up recently, and it also makes an appearance in the most recent issue of Conservation magazine: people who buy green products may be, on the whole, more likely to steal and cheat when given the chance.

This claim comes by way of two researchers at the University of Toronto, who were probing a more widely known psychological phenomenon in which people who pat themselves on the back for a good deed often feel entitled to a bit of selfishness later on.

Using student volunteers, the Toronto researchers tested this notion as it relates to green consumerism. They initially quizzed the students on their impressions of people who buy eco-friendly products, and for the most part, they considered such consumers to be more “more cooperative, altruistic and ethical” than ordinary consumers, according to Conservation.

The researchers then set about testing those qualities:


In the second experiment, some students were assigned to check out an online store offering mostly green products, while other students were assigned to an online store carrying mostly conventional products. Half the students in each group were asked to rate the products in the store, and the other half were asked to purchase products.

Afterward, all the students played a seemingly unrelated money-sharing game. The students who had merely rated the green products shared more money than the students who had rated the conventional products. But students who had made purchases in the green store shared less money than those who had shopped in the conventional store.

In the third experiment, the students played a computer game that tempted them to earn money by cheating. The green consumers were more likely to cheat than the conventional purchasers, and they stole more money when asked to withdraw their winnings from envelopes on their desks.

Andy Revkin, my colleague at the Dot Earth blog, suggested that this “moral-license effect,” as the authors put it, may well have something in common with another widely discussed phenomenon known as the “single-action bias” — a term that arises often in discussions of climate change.

From the Center for Research on Environmental Decisions at Columbia University:

In response to uncertain and risky situations, humans have a tendency to focus and simplify their decision making. Individuals responding to a threat are likely to rely on one action, even when it provides only incremental protection or risk reduction and may not be the most effective option. People often take no further action, presumably because the first one succeeded in reducing their feeling of worry or vulnerability. This phenomenon is called the single-action bias.

Whether or not the single-action bias can help explain why students in the Toronto experiment behaved the way they did is an open question, though it seems certain that the study of environmental decision-making — particularly as popular agreement on the gravity of global warming wanes — will continue to be a hot area of research.

“Green products do not necessarily make for better people,” the Toronto researchers told The Guardian. They also said that while much time and treasure has been spent trying to identify green consumers, relatively little research has gone into “how green consumption fits into people’s global sense of responsibility and morality.”


http://greeninc.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/17/are-green-consumers-less-trustworthy/
 

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This information is very useful to me; it will help shape my opinion of "green" products.


That was an obvious lie. I guess I'm supposed to be a "green" consumer.
 

SlitheryDee

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People who make the decision to buy green items when they know that they are in an insignificant minority in undertaking an action that might not help much if everyone did it to alleviate a condition that is huge, nebulous, and poorly understood could only be doing so for the privilege of patting themselves on the back, whatever they tell themselves their motivations are.

Whether or not that leads to an increased tendency to steal is another matter, but it stands to reason that a person would feel a certain amount of entitlement for their concern about such a lofty issue.
 

xanis

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People who make the decision to buy green items when they know that they are in an insignificant minority in undertaking an action that might not help much if everyone did it to alleviate a condition that is huge, nebulous, and poorly understood could only be doing so for the privilege of patting themselves on the back, whatever they tell themselves their motivations are.

Whether or not that leads to an increased tendency to steal is another matter, but it stands to reason that a person would feel a certain amount of entitlement for their concern about such a lofty issue.

Wow, you pretty much hit the nail right on the head. While I'm sure that there are some people that do the green thing because they truly care about the environment, I'd wager that 90% of the people who "go green" do it because they want aboard the bandwagon.
 

Kelvrick

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say green products leads to hippies. Hippies are always trying to "stick it to the man." The man is whatever store is selling what they want.
 

JM Aggie08

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That's because almost all "green" shoppers are poor hippies looking for a handout.

/flamesuit.
 

Gibson486

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And thus your post completely missed the point. Well done.

no, it hits the edge of the point. You see the little mark on it. He said they steal. I said, "well...the stuff cost a lot". Since the stuff costs a lot, they probably break the bank buying it.
 

BurnItDwn

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This information is very useful to me; it will help shape my opinion of "green" products.


That was an obvious lie. I guess I'm supposed to be a "green" consumer.

Your avatar has green hair. Thus, you are a "green" consumer! Theif!
 

zinfamous

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no, it hits the edge of the point. You see the little mark on it. He said they steal. I said, "well...the stuff cost a lot". Since the stuff costs a lot, they probably break the bank buying it.

but your assumption must also assume that their spending habits on other products are the same as those for people that don't buy green. It could very well be that they adjust their spending habits to compensate, but that is just another assumption...
 

MJinZ

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I've found that religious people are some of the least trustworthy people I've ever met. :p

I was going to say, if the "moral-license" gets a pass on doing bad stuff, Christians must be the biggest Douches in the world world (especially those who go to Church for their weekly "license renewal").
 

tk149

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Church Indulgences - bring 'em back, I say!

There should be a legal version too!
 

vi edit

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That's because they suck at not getting caught. Big business knows how to play the loopholes and bury their crimes.

:D
 

sgaliger

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If they aren't molesting little boys currently, it's only a matter of time.

A preacher, a doctor and lawyer are on a boat full of orphans which is starting to sink. The doctor immediately says, "We have to save the children!"

The lawyer shouts back, "Fuck the children!"

The preacher asks, "Do you think there's enough time?"

Oldie but a goodie.
 

rockyct

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Wow, nicely done AT. Here I thought Spidey would turn this into a liberal bashing thread but instead it turned into a Christian bashing thread. Very clever twist. I wasn't expecting that.
 

MJinZ

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Wow, nicely done AT. Here I thought Spidey would turn this into a liberal bashing thread but instead it turned into a Christian bashing thread. Very clever twist. I wasn't expecting that.

How could you not expect that? That's the basically the crux of the conclusion - it's not "greenness" that make you more likely to be naughty, it's racking up moral chips and brownie points in order to balance out your other naughty behavior. And what institution do we know focuses exclusively on brownie points?
 

rockyct

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How could you not expect that? That's the basically the crux of the conclusion - it's not "greenness" that make you more likely to be naughty, it's racking up moral chips and brownie points in order to balance out your other naughty behavior. And what institution do we know focuses exclusively on brownie points?
I just assumed it would lead to bashing of the political group that the green shoppers belonged too.