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Green Pc

Originally posted by: Operandi
A 650 watt PSU for mATX board with integrated video.... what a bunch of fools...
LoL!

You missed the best part... 😀
The bad news for gamers and those with high-performance rigs is that your ATI or nVidia card is likely consuming 300 watts or more. That's why powerhouse systems need a 750-watt power supply . Fortunately, relief is on the way: Newer cards such as the nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX use only about 250 watts, depending on use.
 
LoL, If you are REALLY concerned about energy efficiency, then you are going to get a 200 W PSU, a mobile processor, and undervolt/clock the sucker as much as possible (with some onboard video card). If there is anyone that does not care about power usage, its the person that can dump $3000 into a computer.

And yes, the guy is a moron for choosing a 600 W PSU when there are much cheaper/lower watt "Green" psu's that will get the job done. Energy savings does not start with the PSU, it starts with the Processor and GPU.
 
Originally posted by: VinDSL

You missed the best part... 😀
The bad news for gamers and those with high-performance rigs is that your ATI or nVidia card is likely consuming 300 watts or more. That's why powerhouse systems need a 750-watt power supply . Fortunately, relief is on the way: Newer cards such as the nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX use only about 250 watts, depending on use.

Yeah, thats a good one too.

It certainly isn't hard to find power consumption numbers for 8800 series and it's nowhere near 250 watts.

It really makes you wonder what if any research they did before they wrote that article, clearly they didn't do any real testing of their own.
 
Originally posted by: VinDSL
Originally posted by: Operandi
A 650 watt PSU for mATX board with integrated video.... what a bunch of fools...
LoL!

You missed the best part... 😀
The bad news for gamers and those with high-performance rigs is that your ATI or nVidia card is likely consuming 300 watts or more. That's why powerhouse systems need a 750-watt power supply . Fortunately, relief is on the way: Newer cards such as the nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX use only about 250 watts, depending on use.

WTH? Is this guy insane? If I remember my facts correctly, the 8800 is one of the worst cards for power draining. Yah, again I state, this guy is a moron.
 
Originally posted by: Operandi
Yeah, thats a good one too.

It certainly isn't hard to find power consumption numbers for 8800 series and it's nowhere near 250 watts...
Heh! No kidding!

They've even got two power connectors, don't they?

*edit*
The GeForce 8800 GTX ships with two 6-pin PCI Express power connectors . This might make you shiver a bit, worrying if you'll need a kilowatt power supply just to run this thing...

For a single board, Nvidia recommends a 450W or better power supply with a 12V current rating of 30A. The 8800 GTS needs a 400W PSU with a 12V current rating of 26A. These are well within norms for modern PSUs. Of course, if you plan on running multiple RAID arrays, a pair of 8800 GTX cards along with a heavily overclocked CPU, you will need a beefy power supply.

By the way, if you fail to connect the outside 6-pin connector (the one closest to the back of the board) the system won't POST: You'll just get a warning tone. If you plug in the outside connector, but forget the inside one, the system will boot, but the 8800 GTX will run in a low power mode. Games and 3D apps may crash.

Note that the 8800 GTS only requires one power connector .
Answered my own question... 😀
 
*SIGH*

Well, some of what they point out (though not at the beginning) is that "green" is both power savings, plus ROHS ("cleaner" manufacturing).

Okay, so the PSU is 80+. Still, even thinking that you will need 650W for an energy efficient computer is just being retarded. Alright, that's already been beat to death by all the above posters.

The green PC uses all lead-free components, starting with the Antec SOLO case. Made mostly from plastics, this light-as-a-pillow case uses the ATX form factor
W... T... F... I have that case, and while it isn't as heavy as the Antec 1080AMG that I had a few years ago, it is far from being "light-as-a-pillow." Has this author even hefted the case and compared it to others?

unlike some Zalman fans I've tried, the Big Typhoon really is whisper-quiet
What? Sure, the Big Typhoon can be quiet with an undervolted 120mm fan, but I've never thought Zalman fans were noisy - I've always used the included Fan Mate (and now just "Smart Fan" in BIOS).

I chose the Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 processor. This CPU runs 42 percent faster (per SYSmark 2004 SE scores) than the Intel Pentium D 960 yet consumes 40 percent less energy... it consumes only 65 watts
Not that they are easily available, but there are AMD x2 chips that are 35W rated.

I also chose the matching Intel DG965SS motherboard...
The Intel board has integrated 3D graphics and surround sound, which means you can skip those expansion cards and save more energy.

Okay, using IGP?

Total: 168 watts

Note: The watts listed are the highest for normal operation when the component is active.
Okay, so they added up the "rated" peak wattage for that number. What? They didn't actually measure REAL power draw from the wall?

Their power usage conclusion makes the choice of a 650W PSU even more dumb.

Their "online extra" said to use a desktop board that takes a mobile CPU.

My take is that for the super energy conservationist with modest PC needs, get a VIA solution using one of their newer C7 chips, combine with an efficient PicoPSU and a notebook HDD. Voila, a computer that will draw less than 50W from the wall, and probably closer to 25W.

For a more mainstream setup, probably a lower end C2D or A64 on an overclockable motherboard so that it can be undervolted (or use software controls). A 7600GT video card will probably be a good balance between performance and low power draw. Fortron makes a 300W "Green" PSU that is supposedly 80+, and costs only $32 at Newegg.
 
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The editor seriously needs to start firing people. We at anandtech should email them and laugh at that article.


8800GTS requiring 1 pci-e just makes me want to laugh.
😛
 
Originally posted by: VinDSL
LoL!

You missed the best part... 😀
The bad news for gamers and those with high-performance rigs is that your ATI or nVidia card is likely consuming 300 watts or more. That's why powerhouse systems need a 750-watt power supply . Fortunately, relief is on the way: Newer cards such as the nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX use only about 250 watts, depending on use.

300W in a single card? Please.
My entire PC uses less than 200W, and that's with 8 7200rpm hard drives spinning.
 
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