Green or Brown better, XP1800+?

[pcmax]

Just curious, toying with the idea of upgrading my XP1600+ and we have a couple 1800+'s at the shop. I know the brown is the original color. Both are AGOIA steppings however, rest of the marks look fairly similar in numbers. Looking for the best overclock of course. Currently running my (first gen.) AGKGA XP1600+ at 148fsb, would it even be worth going to a 1800? We also have a XP2100+ AROIA core, haven't found much evidence on the overclockability of the AROIA 2100's. Running a Gigabyte VTXE board with 5,7.5, and 10% vcore settings. Thoughts and experiences mucho appreciado.

 

[Booster]

I'm pretty sure they're exactly the same. Some are brown, others are green. Nothing much of a difference, AFAIK.

 

[Soulkeeper]

i doubt there would be much of a diff between the two
if i had to choose i would get a green one just cause they came out later
i don't think they make anymore brown ones so if you get a brown one it's most likely to be older
if yur gonna upgrade atleast get something faster than yur 1600+ at it's stock speed
that way you will be sure to get some tangible benefit from the upgrade
those 1800+ procs look alright

 

[Valinos]

AROIA and AGOIA chips are overlocking great. I recently picked up an AROIA 1600+ from newegg and I got it slightly past 1900+ and once I unlock it and get some better memory I should be able to hit 2100+ easily. The 1600+ you currently have though is only 3 mhz behind on the FSB from mine and unless you have some good memory or unlock it you probably won't get much farther on an AROIA 1600+. That said, I wouldn't waste the money to get an 1800+ unless its something like $30. You should be running at near 1900+ with a 148 FSB, so buying an 1800+ that may or may not OC well would be pointless.

The 2100+ AROIA may overclock better than other 2100+ steppings, but when you get that high the gains diminish quite a bit and again, probably aren't worth the upgrade unless you get a large discount from your computer shop.

Also the brown packaging on the Palomino is simply the older original organic packaging that AMD was using before they started dying it green. The only difference is the color and my AROIA 1600+ is brown if that matters at all.

Anyway, I suggest you just stick with what you got. The Athlon is running out of steam quickly and it won't be long before the Clawhammers and (possibly) the Bartons are out. The Palomino and Tbred are at their peak with the 2200+ and probably won't go much farther than that without some major cooling. Wait till the newer stuff comes out and you can get a 2200+ for $50

 

[Boonesmi]

my green athlonxp 1500+ runs at 1700mhz (xp2050+) at the default voltage (its 100% stable and its where i keep it set for every day use)

bumping up the core voltage to 2.0v it will get 11x166mhz or 1833mhz, xp rating of 2250+

my old brown xp1500+ would only get up to about 1.5ghz


but in all honesty i doubt is has much to do with the type of packaging, but with the core stepping.

 

[pcmax]

Originally posted by: Boonesmi
my green athlonxp 1500+ runs at 1700mhz (xp2050+) at the default voltage (its 100% stable and its where i keep it set for every day use)

bumping up the core voltage to 2.0v it will get 11x166mhz or 1833mhz, xp rating of 2250+

my old brown xp1500+ would only get up to about 1.5ghz


but in all honesty i doubt is has much to do with the type of packaging, but with the core stepping.

Wow, what board are you running this on? I just tried a brown AROIA 1600+ we got in and it did fine at 155fsb on my Gigabyte board, tried for 160, posted once and never again, unfortunately with the GB boards there is no cmos clear option . Now on GB board 2 and same AROIA 1600 will only go 151 stable, any increase in Vcore over 5% causes immediate blue screen.

 

[Boonesmi]

i use the epox 8k3a+
since it has the 1/5th pci divider the pci and agp aren't to far out of spec at 170mhz (at 166mhz they are both 33 and 66mhz respectivly)