Great video (or read - your choice) on suppression of sexual speech on campus

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shira

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Here's a great speech, given last week by Nadine Strossen (former President of the ACLU) as her Richard S Salent Lecture on Freedom of the Press. It's about the widespread movement in America to suppress "offensive" sexual speech on campus, and the government's complicity in this. The text of the speech is here, and it's obviously too long to quote in its entirety. But here is an edited excerpt.

If you really want to scare yourself, read just the two paragraphs that I've bolded below.

Earlier this year, University of Chicago adopted a powerful re-commitment to campus free speech, precisely to push back against the prevailing suppression. The statement was drafted by UC’s acting Law School dean, Geoff Stone, who has been a free speech scholar and advocate for almost half a century. Yet, Geoff recently said, “the level of intolerance for controversial views on college campuses today is much greater than at any time in my memory.” And I concur with that.

Specifically, I’m referring to the overbroad, unjustified concept of illegal sexual harassment as extending to speech with any sexual content that anyone finds offensive. This distorted concept has recently become entrenched on campus due to pressure from the Department of Education’s Office of Civil Rights, the OCR. By threatening to pull federal funds, the OCR has forced schools, even well-endowed schools such as Harvard, to adopt sexual misconduct policies that violate many civil liberties . . . .

To say that we should be protected from any idea is the exact opposite of what the Supreme Court has held as the bedrock of our free speech system. Namely that speech may never be suppressed because anyone had any negative reaction to its ideas – even the most vehemently negative reaction by even the vast majority of our fellow citizens. To be sure, speech may be suppressed if, but only if, it poses an imminent danger of concrete injury, for example, an intentional incitement of imminent violence.

However, short of such an extraordinary situation, Justice Brandeis eloquently explains why we must brave the discomforts and other potential downsides that are posed by speech whose ideas we consider evil and even incendiary.

As he said, “Fear of serious injury cannot alone justify suppression of free speech. Men feared witches and burned women. The fitting remedy for evil counsels is good ones.”

This speech protective philosophy was memorably summed up specifically in the campus context by a revered past university president, Clark Kerr of the University of California. As he said, “The University is not engaged in making ideas safe for students. It is engaged in making students safe for ideas.”

Notably, in 1984, Harvard President, Derek Bok, quoted Clark Kerr’s great line in an eloquent open letter Bok wrote to the Harvard community about various free speech controversies that had recently roiled this campus.

One of the incidents that Bok described was a flyer that a Harvard fraternity had circulated which, to quote him, “Referred to women in terms that were lewd, insulting and grossly demeaning.” While he stressed that this speech should not be penalized in any iota at all, he also explained that it should be publicly condemned.

Now, I’ll explain in a bit more detail the free speech and feminist laws with OCR’s sexual harassment concept which Harvard and too many other schools have adopted. Again, the OCR has forced campuses to punish as sexual harassment “any unwelcome conduct of a sexual nature.” There is no exception for speech. To the contrary, the OCR definition expressly extends to “verbal conduct” which is a good example of Orwellian newspeak. Or I should say, it’s a good example of Orwellian new verbal conduct.

In short, campuses are pressured to punish as harassment any expression with any sexual content that anyone subjectively finds offensive, no matter how unreasonably or irrationally. And the OCR explicitly rejected an objective reasonable person standard, stating that “expression will be harassing, even if it is not offensive to an objectively reasonable person of the same gender in the same situation.”


Universities have, in fact, been punishing students and faculty members for all manner of sexually themed expression, even when it has an important academic purpose. The most egregious, most recent example is the prolonged sexual harassment investigation that Northwestern University conducted against film professor Laura Kipnis earlier this year because of an article she published in the Chronicle of Higher Education, in which, ironically, she criticized the exaggerated, distorted concept of sexual harassment that is prevalent on campus.

For months, the university subjected her to Star Chamber type interrogations pursuing the charge that her essay somehow constituted unlawful harassment.

I’d like to cite just a few other examples of campus censorship in the guise of punishing sexual harassment. The Naval War College placed a professor on administrative leave and demanded he apologize because, during a lecture that critically described Machiavelli’s views about leadership, he paraphrased Machiavelli’s comments about raping the goddess Fortuna.

Another example: The University of Denver suspended a tenured professor and found him guilty of sexual harassment for teaching about sexual topics in a graduate-level course in the course unit entitled “Drugs and Sin in American Life from Masturbation and Prostitution to Alcohol and Drugs.”

Next example: A sociology professor at Appalachian State University was suspended because she showed a documentary film that critically examined the adult film industry.

A sociology professor at the University of Colorado was forced to retire early because of a class in her course on deviance in which volunteer student assistants played roles in a scripted skit about prostitution.

A professor of English and film studies at San Bernardino Valley College was punished for requiring his class to write essays defining pornography. Yes, that was just defining it, not even defending it.

And just this summer, Louisiana State University fired a tenured professor of early childhood education who has received multiple teaching awards, because she occasionally used vulgar language and humor about sex when she was teaching about sexuality and also to capture her students’ attention. And I could go on. You get the idea.

An appropriately limited concept of illegal sexual harassment in the educational context was issued by the Supreme Court in 1999. Not just anything that anyone considers unwelcome, subjectively as the OCR would have it, but rather, only unwelcomed conduct that is targeted, discriminatory and – I’m going to quote – “so severe, pervasive and objectively offensive, and that so undermines and detracts from the victim’s educational experience, that the victims are effectively denied equal access to an institution’s resources and opportunities.”
 

BoberFett

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I suppose you thought that GamerGate thread was just about silly video games?

Nope. It just so happened that video games was where this radical "social justice" movement ran into a group of people who are already outsiders of regular society who don't have any social standing to maintain and therefore didn't feel compelled to cower in fear of these "social justice" bullies.
 

shira

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I suppose you thought that GamerGate thread was just about silly video games?

Nope. It just so happened that video games was where this radical "social justice" movement ran into a group of people who are already outsiders of regular society who don't have any social standing to maintain and therefore didn't feel compelled to cower in fear of these "social justice" bullies.

I basically agree, but I'd express your point a little differently. The unfortunate truth is that it isn't easy to resist those who want to take away liberties when the very real potential price of resistance is the loss of one's livelihood and the slandering of one's good name. Also unfortunate is that the would-be speech-suppressors really face no potentially negative consequences in the real world for their horrible behavior. So this and other, similar conflicts involve a terribly uneven playing field, which seems even more horrible given how high the stakes are.
 

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I suppose you thought that GamerGate thread was just about silly video games?

Nope. It just so happened that video games was where this radical "social justice" movement ran into a group of people who are already outsiders of regular society who don't have any social standing to maintain and therefore didn't feel compelled to cower in fear of these "social justice" bullies.

everything is racist, everything is sexist, everything is homophobic and you have to point it all out.

just listen and believe.
 

woolfe9998

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Thanks for the link. Read the entire speech.

It seems that the issue of free expression vs. pc on college campuses has been getting more than the usual amount of press lately, starting with Jerry Seinfeld's comments about not wanting to do standup on college campuses. And the issues at Yale and Mizzou which are the subject of other threads.

While there is obviously a dialogue going on outside the campuses themselves, in places such as this, the real dialogue needs to happen among the students, faculty and administrators. I know that this hyper PC over-sensitivity is not characteristic of anywhere near all college students, or even all liberal college students. Unfortunately I think this is a case of the squeakiest wheels getting all the grease. If I was still in college, I'd be speaking out about this but it seems that the PC crowd is the angrier crowd right now.
 

Paratus

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Good article OP. It's sad that speech on campus is still so messed up. Hell the movie PCU was about this 20 years ago.

I suppose you thought that GamerGate thread was just about silly video games?

Nope. It just so happened that video games was where this radical "social justice" movement ran into a group of people who are already outsiders of regular society who don't have any social standing to maintain and therefore didn't feel compelled to cower in fear of these "social justice" bullies.

Whoa there! Let's not go slapping on the back a group who let the loudest of them define the movement as "It's about ethics in journalism not misogyny you fucking bitch and if you don't shut up we'll dox you and kill your family."

Threatening to kill someone for their SJW speech on video games is in the same ballpark as ruining their profession for their speech on sexual topics.
 

master_shake_

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Good article OP. It's sad that speech on campus is still so messed up. Hell the movie PCU was about this 20 years ago.



Whoa there! Let's not go slapping on the back a group who let the loudest of them define the movement as "It's about ethics in journalism not misogyny you fucking bitch and if you don't shut up we'll dox you and kill your family."

Threatening to kill someone for their SJW speech on video games is in the same ballpark as ruining their profession for their speech on sexual topics.

not one death threat was traced to gamergate.

gg though.
 

Paratus

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not one death threat was traced to gamergate.

gg though.

No one registered with gamer gate, took an entrance exam and got a shiny little official member of gamer gate ID card. That's like saying anonymous never hacked anyone.

If you support free speech then you should support only rational restrictions on speech. That does not include death threats or government intervention and loss of jobs in most cases.
 

PokerGuy

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This kind of rampant stupidity is exactly what white guilters and SJW's have fostered for decades. It's getting worse, the politically correct idiots are on the war path against any free speech they don't agree with. The cancer that is political correctness continues to spread....

Now ask yourself, which party and candidates support this kind of garbage?
 

momeNt

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Social justice warriors are the "publicly condemn" part of it all, which she said in her speech she is fine with, and while the threshold for that is still being figured out and occasionally borders on the insane, it still isn't a violation of free speech.

What she really has a problem with is the administrative oversight in colleges right now. Not butthurt teens taking to twitter and crying like infants over an email.
 

Ancalagon44

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This ties in nicely with the recent incident on Yale campus.

Regarding the OCR, I think they are more concerned with criminalizing any and all male sexual behaviour. All men are rapists, and are presumed to be rapists with the slightest accusation. If you can prove your innocence, we will not apologize and neither will we prosecute your false accuser (who should be charged with perjury).

All of the messages in the media are geared to make all men, especially college men, look like rapists. Look at that fake Rolling Stone article, which has now attracted a few lawsuits. Why do you think that was published so easily?

EDIT: Incidentally, I don't know if you guys remember that feminist conference that happened in the UK, in which participants were asked not to clap, but to use jazz hands to express agreement with a speaker. Yes, clapping can trigger PTSD attacks apparently.
 
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