***Great mind game!***

[XZeroII]

Alright, here's the situation:

Rules
You only get to play once.
A computer is given 100 $1 bills.
The computer cannot be tampered with (you cannot bust open the computer and get the money)
The computer may share as much of this money as it wants with you.
The only thing you may do is either accept or reject the money it offers.
If you accept, you will walk away with the money.
If you reject, you will walk away with nothing and the money is burned by the computer.

Got it?

The computer offers you $2 out of the $100 it was given. Do you accept or reject?





Anyone who rejects this money, please explain because I would gladly like to hear your reason why. I would expect everyone to accept.





PART 2
Rules
You only get to play once.
You are in a closed room and no audience.
You are given 100 $1 bills.
You will play the part of the computer from the first question.
Another person will walk in and you will offer that person a portion of that $100. The other person knows that you have $100 to distribute.
They can either accept or reject your offer.
If they accept, they get whatever you offered them, and you get to keep whatever is left.
If they reject, you both get nothing.

Got it?

How much do you offer that other person and why?

 

[bunker]

First part I reject it. I want to see that cheapass computer that I gave birth to () burn .

Second part I give them $5. I'm generous .

EDIT - I want to explain my second answer better but I need to know if that person knows the rules of the game or not.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: bunker
First part I reject it. I want to see that cheapass computer that I gave birth to () burn .

Second part I give them $5. I'm generous .

What if they reject that $5? You both get nothing and you are out $95. hmmmm?

 

[NewSc2]

i'd offer $51

 

[illusion88]

If I was the computer, I would give all $100 away.... what use is $100 do a computer?

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: illusion88
If I was the computer, I would give all $100 away.... what use is $100 do a computer?

You play the part of the computer from the first question. You actually get to keep the money.

 

[Savarak]

neat situation...

For rule 1...

Might as well take the money, so other people can get a chance to get more or less... since the money would be wasted if I don't...

reasoning for those who'd reject the money -> they're sadistic fools who like nothing better than to ruin other people's chances

For rule 2...
I'd offer 20 bucks... reasoning? Its enough to be a good offer, but not enough to make it be kinda insulting to the offeree... might as well share some of the good fortune!

 

[AnimeKnight]

Originally posted by: NewSc2
i'd offer $51

First ? I will reject

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: Savarak
neat situation...

For rule 1...

Might as well take the money, so other people can get a chance to get more or less... since the money would be wasted if I don't...

reasoning for those who'd reject the money -> they're sadistic fools who like nothing better than to ruin other people's chances

For rule 2...
I'd offer 20 bucks... reasoning? Its enough to be a good offer, but not enough to make it be kinda insulting to the offeree... might as well share some of the good fortune!

The other person probably took the $2 from the computer...so why wouldn't you offer them $2?

 

[dejitaru]

1st one, I'd accept. Whatever is offered is "free" money and is more than I had before. There's no reason to reject. You can't lose.
2nd one, $10 or so. It is highly unlikely that someone would reject this.

What if they reject that $5? You both get nothing and you are out $95. hmmmm?

But they won't be out $95. They only had a chance of getting $95 if that person accepted the $5.

 

[wviperw]

I don't get how this is a mind game. Are we missing something so far, because most of the answers seems sort of common sensical.

1) accept whatever money you are given
2) give away the minimum amount needed in order for that person to accept

So is this "mind game" trying to say that we expect more out of a human and are willing to take whatever we get from computers or what?

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: wviperw
I don't get how this is a mind game. Are we missing something so far, because most of the answers seems sort of common sensical.

1) accept whatever money you are given
2) give away the minimum amount needed in order for that person to accept

So is this "mind game" trying to say that we expect more out of a human and are willing to take whatever we get from computers or what?

Lets say you offered the other person $2 (the same that the computer offered). Why do you think think the other person wouldn't take the $2? People are saying $10, $20, or $51. Why not $2? or $1?

 

[dmw16]

XZero...are you taking/reading game theory right now? The 2nd example sounds like basic game theory.
-doug

 

[GermyBoy]

First off, I would reject the $2. I would then go get a bucket of water, and pour it on the computer, or to put out the fire, whichever comes first. Then, I'd kick the crap out of the computer for being a little bitch, and then I'd have $100.

 

[GermyBoy]

Originally posted by: dmw16
XZero...are you taking/reading game theory right now? The 2nd example sounds like basic game theory. -doug

If computer scientist have nothing better to do than study common sense, then may god help them all!

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: GermyBoy
First off, I would reject the $2. I would then go get a bucket of water, and pour it on the computer, or to put out the fire, whichever comes first. Then, I'd kick the crap out of the computer for being a little bitch, and then I'd have $100.

The computer cannot be tampered with (you cannot bust open the computer and get the money)

RULES RULES EVERYBODY LOVES RULES!!!

 

[GermyBoy]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: GermyBoy First off, I would reject the $2. I would then go get a bucket of water, and pour it on the computer, or to put out the fire, whichever comes first. Then, I'd kick the crap out of the computer for being a little bitch, and then I'd have $100.

The computer cannot be tampered with (you cannot bust open the computer and get the money)

RULES RULES EVERYBODY LOVES RULES!!!

Rules are meant to be broken. You've broken at least one of the 10 commandments I'm sure.

Secondly, I'm not busting open the computer, I'm pouring water on it, frying it, and then kicking it's ass.

 

[GermyBoy]

But seriously, I'd reject it. I don't care about $2, I'll burn it myself. And if they computer burns $100, then it has no money either. That way, I get the satisfaction of screwing over the computer. (I've been screwed over by computers [really it's DELL, but they sell computers] before, it's payback time)

 

[ArmenK]

Part 1, accept: Free money is good.
Part 2, give $1: Free money is good, why would anyone reject a free dollar? It like seeing a dollar bill on the ground and leaving it there.

How is this a mind game?

 

[wviperw]

Lets say you offered the other person $2 (the same that the computer offered). Why do you think think the other person wouldn't take the $2? People are saying $10, $20, or $51. Why not $2? or $1?

Right, thats why I commented about this game really comparing our reaction to computers vs. humans.

With computers it is simple (unless you've got some beef against computers): We would attribute the choice of how much money we will be given as random since it is coming from a computer which cannot make human decisions. Therefore no ill will is involved.

However with humans you've got two forces going on within the recipient of the money. First is the desire for money, and second is the desire for other people not to have as much money (jealousy for example). This is why the $2 won't work with a human->human correspondance because the ill desire will overrule the money desire.

 

[ArmenK]

Originally posted by: wviperw

Lets say you offered the other person $2 (the same that the computer offered). Why do you think think the other person wouldn't take the $2? People are saying $10, $20, or $51. Why not $2? or $1?

Right, thats why I commented about this game really comparing our reaction to computers vs. humans.

With computers it is simple (unless you've got some beef against computers): We would attribute the choice of how much money we will be given as random since it is coming from a computer which cannot make human decisions. Therefore no ill will is involved.

However with humans you've got two forces going on within the recipient of the money. First is the desire for money, and second is the desire for other people not to have as much money (jealousy for example). This is why the $2 won't work with a human->human correspondance because the ill desire will overrule the money desire.

Nobody ever said the guy that walks in knows you have $100 or any money for that matter.

 

[wviperw]

Well I would assume the recipient knows that the donor has 100$ in his posession in parts 1 and 2. Otherwise it just becomes a simple "find a dollar on the floor" type thing.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: ArmenK

Originally posted by: wviperw

Lets say you offered the other person $2 (the same that the computer offered). Why do you think think the other person wouldn't take the $2? People are saying $10, $20, or $51. Why not $2? or $1?

Right, thats why I commented about this game really comparing our reaction to computers vs. humans.

With computers it is simple (unless you've got some beef against computers): We would attribute the choice of how much money we will be given as random since it is coming from a computer which cannot make human decisions. Therefore no ill will is involved.

However with humans you've got two forces going on within the recipient of the money. First is the desire for money, and second is the desire for other people not to have as much money (jealousy for example). This is why the $2 won't work with a human->human correspondance because the ill desire will overrule the money desire.

Nobody ever said the guy that walks in knows you have $100 or any money for that matter.

They do know.