GRAW running with and without physX (pics, vids)

T2k

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Originally posted by: gersson
Check out these real world benches

VERY dissapointing :-(

I can barely tell the difference

Not a surprise: he's running a P4 with 7800GTX and - judged from the picture - with pretty low details...

Well, I'm playing the demo without PPU, with an older X2 at medium details yet my textures look not only the same but rather a bit better than this.

Weird... he claims he's playing it w/
16 X AF No AA (Unhappy chappy about this, really hope this is fixed in the full version) 1280x1024 All settings on Max
what's the matter here? His jpgs are pretty huge, so one would think just lightly compressed...
:confused:
 

1Dark1Sharigan1

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Originally posted by: wizboy11
I bet the CPU could even to those calculations.

(maby?)

Well of course the CPU can but the question is efficiency and from the look of things it seems GRAW isn't intense enough physics wise for the PPU to make all that big of a difference . . .
 

T2k

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Originally posted by: moonboy403
no aa even in retail version makes sli and crossfire users uber sad

That's ridiculous if true, I agree though I reserve my judgement until I get my new rig up and running with final GRAW.
 

moonboy403

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sadly...i have the retailer version sitting on my desktop and there is no aa option available

i hope somebody makes a patch!
 

moonboy403

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i haven't tried it in the retail version yet, but when i tried to do it in the demo, cp aa setting had no effect on the game
 

TheRyuu

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Originally posted by: T2k
Oops, this is now better: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showth....php?t=17568825&page=3&pp=30&p=6948312

50fps vs 55 fps isn't that bad at all. For me it was obvious from the beginning that extra load on your GPU will slow down your framerate a bit but I expected some balance - it seems it's fairly OK, 10% tradeoff isn't end of the world, I think - you can OC more by default on any X1900XT... ;)

I think it just looks better. But not physics better, it just looks like the graphics are a little better. Nothing my computer can't do.
 

T2k

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Originally posted by: wizboy11
Originally posted by: T2k
Oops, this is now better: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showth....php?t=17568825&page=3&pp=30&p=6948312

50fps vs 55 fps isn't that bad at all. For me it was obvious from the beginning that extra load on your GPU will slow down your framerate a bit but I expected some balance - it seems it's fairly OK, 10% tradeoff isn't end of the world, I think - you can OC more by default on any X1900XT... ;)

I think it just looks better. But not physics better, it just looks like the graphics are a little better. Nothing my computer can't do.

Err, actually no, this is what your computer cannot do without this card.
 

TheRyuu

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Originally posted by: T2k
Originally posted by: wizboy11
Originally posted by: T2k
Oops, this is now better: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showth....php?t=17568825&page=3&pp=30&p=6948312

50fps vs 55 fps isn't that bad at all. For me it was obvious from the beginning that extra load on your GPU will slow down your framerate a bit but I expected some balance - it seems it's fairly OK, 10% tradeoff isn't end of the world, I think - you can OC more by default on any X1900XT... ;)

I think it just looks better. But not physics better, it just looks like the graphics are a little better. Nothing my computer can't do.

Err, actually no, this is what your computer cannot do without this card.

Well, if the game supported the option to use the second core on my CPU then maby it might run it ;)
 

aigomorla

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7900GTX in SLI 1000 dollars
SLI board 100-200 dollars
Physx Card 200 dollars


Total Spent to boost your gaming the extra few FPS in a game that cost 49.99

PRICELESS

Anyone see the recient BS in the cost of videocard equiptment just for gaming??
or is it just me??

But then again i shouldnt be talking but my 2 7900GT's cost a tad bit more then a single X1900XTX so i shouldnt complain. :\

 

450R

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Originally posted by: moonboy403
i haven't tried it in the retail version yet, but when i tried to do it in the demo, cp aa setting had no effect on the game

It'll never work in the retail version either because of the lighting method they chose to use. There's more than a few people wondering what GRIN were smoking when they made that decision, especially considering that there really isn't any hardware available now that can run GR:AW at high enough resolutions to negate the need for AA.
 

moonboy403

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Originally posted by: 450R
Originally posted by: moonboy403
i haven't tried it in the retail version yet, but when i tried to do it in the demo, cp aa setting had no effect on the game

It'll never work in the retail version either because of the lighting method they chose to use. There's more than a few people wondering what GRIN were smoking when they made that decision, especially considering that there really isn't any hardware available now that can run GR:AW at high enough resolutions to negate the need for AA.

my sli setup runs surprisingly well in game with all settings maxed out (1680 x 1050)

so far, i'm always above 50fps

 

moonboy403

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Originally posted by: wizboy11
Originally posted by: T2k
Originally posted by: wizboy11
Originally posted by: T2k
Oops, this is now better: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showth....php?t=17568825&page=3&pp=30&p=6948312

50fps vs 55 fps isn't that bad at all. For me it was obvious from the beginning that extra load on your GPU will slow down your framerate a bit but I expected some balance - it seems it's fairly OK, 10% tradeoff isn't end of the world, I think - you can OC more by default on any X1900XT... ;)

I think it just looks better. But not physics better, it just looks like the graphics are a little better. Nothing my computer can't do.

Err, actually no, this is what your computer cannot do without this card.

Well, if the game supported the option to use the second core on my CPU then maby it might run it ;)

it seems like you only get benefits from dual core when resolution is in or under 1280x1024

 

bunnyfubbles

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Idiots with deep pockets (or at least idiots that think they have deep pockets) and companies that produce parts for high end gaming rigs make good bed fellows

The PPU is very new technology and I'm pretty sure GRAW isn't supposed to be poster child for PPUs despite the fact that it supports it. PPUs aren't supposed to increase your FPS, they're supposed to make the game more dynamic which should make it more interesting/fun.

There have been demos made showing that dual core is not the answer for physics, that a dedicated card can wipe the floor with dualcore - heck, CPUs can process our graphics but do we want to go back to software acceleration? Or have dedicated video accelerators (now known as GPUs) proven themselves?
 

TanisHalfElven

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one point to remember is ppu is not supposed to be used only for the flying particles and stuff that decrease fps.
the real use comes in when you have real to life physics. eg wind blowing at certain speeds would cause my aircraft to change course in BF2.
handling changes depending on wind speed and turbulence. speed of walking is affected by ground. breakable enviormensts (though its already been done in red Faction.)
but imagine being able to blast a hole in a volcano (bf2) and have lava come out realisticly follow the ground as a fluid of its density would and burn up and destroy everything. then when its done the lava meets the water and forms a new lands.


I just drooled while writing this. i'll get the ppu once stuff like this possible.
 

Raduque

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Man, those physics effects aren't even very impressive. I'm not paying $200 for what looks like 500 extra rocks flying around the screen when something explodes.
 
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quote from [ui]ICEMAN over at the OCUK forums


800x600 with all lowest options enabled, same story.

On

Explosion 35
Grenade 55
Gunshot 80

Off

Explosion 60
Grenade 90
Gunshot 110


800x600, lowest everything and no AA or AF and just look at the FPS drop. either the PPU isnt as powerful as everyone thinks, or the developers of GRAW did the most craptacular job of implementation ever