Graphics Card Recommendation For Pentium Dual Core

[MrFunkFu]

Hello There, what graphics card would you recommend for a PC with a
Pentium Dual Core E5800 3.2 Ghz (could overclock it to 3.4 GHZ on the BIOS)
4 GB DDR3
1366 x 768 LED TV.
500 Watt Generic Power Supply

My son wants a card like a GTX 560 but should i?
I'm learning about computers and i need some advice.
Will that card be "bottlenecked" by this CPU?

For Some Games and HD Movies.

Thanks.


Wow, OK, well the kid wants to play Physx on those
Nvidia cards and the new Batman game and a couple of others, the system is with
the onboard intel graphics and the budget is around $200. I meant the GTX 560 standard NOT TI
and i believe i will have to change the Power Supply. Update: I overclocked at 3.5 With everything stock i can't believe it.

 

[darckhart]

the gtx560 is quite the beast. while your cpu is clearly showing its age, your paltry screen res is really your key indicator of what card you actually need for "movies and games." additionally, if you don't NEED dx10/11 in your games, you could probably slide by picking up some overpowered high end used older generation cards on the cheap, or mid tier current gen cards. in any case, based on your specs, the $75 or less range should make anything you do practically fly.

you can use the anandtech gpu bench to test compare specific models, although like i said, it'll be hard to find comparable specs and settings.

gpureview is also a good site to do comparison on specific models.

 

[MrFunkFu]

Well, i did my research and a EVGA GTX 550 Ti seems like what i probably should get, do you think that's a good deal?

 

[Spikesoldier]

I would just go with the 560 or a 460 768MB or 1GB editions.

 

[mosox]

For that resolution a HD 5670 would be fine. Or a HD 6770 but it would be overkill IMO.

 

[Soundmanred]

Trident 4MB will max ur sistem 2560x1600 60FPS silky smooth never changing gl gb gg

 

[Termie]

It's simple. The 560 is way too powerful, the 460 is way overpriced now, and the 550Ti is a weak model for the price and power consumption.

Buy a 5770 for $90AR: http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-5770V3. Use code HOOT and note $20 rebate.

It's absolutely the best fit for that dual-core machine, with what could be a pretty weak power supply. It's as strong as the 550Ti, but uses way less power and is much cheaper.

 

[toyota]

yeah something like a 5770 is the most that system needs. a 5770 is about like my old gtx260 and even at 1920x1080 my stronger E8500 was a bottleneck for cpu intensive games. at just 1366x768 and with a slower E5800, you would never see the difference with a card any faster than a 5770/6770 or even 5750/6750. even with a good cpu those cards are basically fast enough for that low res.

 

[Vdubchaos]

yeah something like a 5770 is the most that system needs. a 5770 is about like my old gtx260 and even at 1920x1080 my stronger E8500 was a bottleneck for cpu intensive games. at just 1366x768 and with a slower E5800, you would never see the difference with a card any faster than a 5770/6770 or even 5750/6750. even with a good cpu those cards are basically fast enough for that low res.

^^^
agree

even 460 would be an overkill

 

[happy medium]

I'd grab a 6790 for 110$AR for that system. It also comes with Dirt3 for free.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150564

In dual core games it will be fine.

 

[darkewaffle]

Depends on the games mostly. A 5770 is more than enough power for anything at that resolution really, but if he's just playing WoW/Counter Strike or other 'easy to run' games then you could save some more cash and get something like a GT240 which can be had for under $30 with a rebate and do just fine, the other advantage is that it requires no external power connector.

 

[Leyawiin]

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...805&CatId=3669

Just saw this at Tigerdirect. All he really needs with that CPU and resolution. Cheap, still capable enough and no rebate to mess with.

 

[Termie]

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...805&CatId=3669

Just saw this at Tigerdirect. All he really needs with that CPU and resolution. Cheap, still capable enough and no rebate to mess with.

That card made more sense in the other thread, where the guy was looking to spend $50.

Here, it's not the best choice. That card is known to run hot, it's slower than the DX11-capable HD5770 that's available for $90AR, and VisionTek is a shoddy manufacturer. I wouldn't bother - the fact that it's showing up now on TigerDirect, from a manufacturer that was out of business for a while, very likely when the HD4850 was current, is not a good sign.

 

[s44]

I'd grab a 6790 for 110$AR for that system.

Why, when you can get an OC 460 for $115AR?

Yeah, overkill, but still...

 

[happy medium]

Why, when you can get an OC 460 for $115AR?

Yeah, overkill, but still...

Yes, I agree, thats the best choice and its a Hawk version also.:thumbsup:

 

[Termie]

Why, when you can get an OC 460 for $115AR?

Yeah, overkill, but still...

Yes, I agree, thats the best choice and its a Hawk version also.:thumbsup:

Don't get Happy started!

Guys, you're driving the price up with each suggestion, and we all know both of those cards will be bottlenecked on his system. He's playing on a dual-core at 720p. Spending over $100 is surely a waste.

 

[happy medium]

Don't get Happy started!

Guys, you're driving the price up with each suggestion, and we all know both of those cards will be bottlenecked on his system. He's playing on a dual-core at 720p. Spending over $100 is surely a waste.

Considering he was gonna grab a gtx560ti, I think a gtx460 768 HAWK is a great choice for 115$AR. I think going with a 5770 for a few bucks less is a waste.

 

[Termie]

Considering he was gonna grab a gtx560ti, I think a gtx460 768 HAWK is a great choice for 115$AR. I think going with a 5770 for a few bucks less is a waste.

I know he was looking at the 560Ti, but our job in giving advice is to consider all factors, even those the OP didn't consider. He may have the budget for it, but the 560Ti was not a good starting point for the discussion. While the GTX460 for $115 is a great deal, it's still $25 more than the 5770 and will yield almost no increase in performance on his rig, particularly because he's at 720p. The GTX460 could also stress his generic power supply.

 

[s44]

It's actually a 1gb Hawk.

I agree it's overkill, but at these price points you get so much more for an additional $20 or so that it's hard to resist. When his son decides he wants to play on a 1080p TV or something...

 

[happy medium]

I know he was looking at the 560Ti, but our job in giving advice is to consider all factors, even those the OP didn't consider. He may have the budget for it, but the 560Ti was not a good starting point for the discussion. While the GTX460 for $115 is a great deal, it's still $25 more than the 5770 and will yield almost no increase in performance on his rig, particularly because he's at 720p. The GTX460 could also stress his generic power supply.

Any 2 core optimized game will give him better results even at his resolution.

A dual core pentium @ 3.4 would about = a e8400 stock.
A e8400 stock will push any dual core game with a gtx 460 just fine.
The are stil plenty of good dual core games out there.

Plus you can experience much better image quality by cranking the AA and still have more fps than you could with a 5770.

[[/IMG]

 

[edplayer]

Guys, you're driving the price up with each suggestion, and we all know both of those cards will be bottlenecked on his system. He's playing on a dual-core at 720p. Spending over $100 is surely a waste.

He didn't post a budget, what videocard he is currently using nor did he give any examples of the games he plays most.

To his credit he did post resolution and power supply (Amperage would have been more useful though)

While the GTX460 for $115 is a great deal, it's still $25 more than the 5770 and will yield almost no increase in performance on his rig, particularly because he's at 720p.

What if he wants to play BF3? How do you think a 5770 will do compared to a 460 Hawk at 1366x768?


and in regards to the power supply, assuming it is a piece of junk, with a little waiting (and setting up deal alerts) he can find a good quality power supply like an Antec Neo Eco for as low as $30AR


Here is an example:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139026

$25AR free shipping. Only 28A on the 12V but good enough for a 460 Hawk, Core 2 Duo and various drives. His might be OK or he could hold out for a better deal like those Neo Eco


edit: I didn't even notice the Promo Code. That knocks it down to $20.50AR

Plus you can experience much better image quality by cranking the AA and still have more fps than you could with a 5770.

yup

 

[bryanW1995]

Considering he was gonna grab a gtx560ti, I think a gtx460 768 HAWK is a great choice for 115$AR. I think going with a 5770 for a few bucks less is a waste.

Really? for 1366x768???? No way dude. I have my gtx 460 -768 running great at 1680x1050 with most games maxed out. 5770 is more than enough for the OP, and he saves $25 doing it. Even 5750 would be great, but I don't know how much cheaper those are.


@ed player: ok, the gtx 460 might end up being a decent buy IF the OP's kid plays bf3 a lot. I saw a 430w corsair for $20 in hot deals this morning, too.

 

[Termie]

What if he wants to play BF3? How do you think a 5770 will do compared to a 460 Hawk at 1366x768?

As long as he's at 720p, he'll run out of CPU in BF3 long before an HD5770 is tapped out. In my benchmarking of BC2 on my e8400/GTX460, my framerate was locked at 42fps at 720p and 1680x1050, regardless of AA levels. It wasn't until I hit 1080p with AA that I could get it to drop (to 35fps). From the looks of it, BF3 will be similarly CPU-limited (though it won't be worse than BC2, thankfully).

I won't argue that given the small price difference and the apparent lack of a firm budget cap, the GTX460 is a fine suggestion, as long as the OP is going to use it at something above 720p and has at least 30a on the 12v rail.

 

[toyota]

He didn't post a budget, what videocard he is currently using nor did he give any examples of the games he plays most.

To his credit he did post resolution and power supply (Amperage would have been more useful though)

What if he wants to play BF3? How do you think a 5770 will do compared to a 460 Hawk at 1366x768?

and in regards to the power supply, assuming it is a piece of junk, with a little waiting (and setting up deal alerts) he can find a good quality power supply like an Antec Neo Eco for as low as $30AR

Here is an example:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139026

$25AR free shipping. Only 28A on the 12V but good enough for a 460 Hawk, Core 2 Duo and various drives. His might be OK or he could hold out for a better deal like those Neo Eco


edit: I didn't even notice the Promo Code. That knocks it down to $20.50AR


yup

BF 3 at 1366 with his cpu will be crapped out LONG before he utilizes even all of a 5770. most games will see almost zero improvement with anything faster than a 5770 at that res with a 5800 cpu.

 

[gmaster456]

Grab a 6570 and call it good. Hell even my 4650 can play most new games well on Medium and thats at 1680x1050.