Graphic Corruption, Lockups and unfit RAM

doveman007

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I've got a Gigabyte MA780G-UD3H motherboard with a Phenom II X3 720 CPU (@3.2Ghz at 1.325v) and 4GB Kingston Hyper-X DDR2 8500 RAM and a Nexus Value 430W PSU.

This RAM is specced to run at 1066Mhz, 5-5-5-15 @ 2.2v. However, strange things happen if I run it at those settings. For one, my 2nd HD, a WD6400AAKS has bursts of activity every 3-4 seconds, even when I'm just sitting in the BIOS or at a DOS prompt. When running at 800Mhz, it just makes a slight tick every 15 seconds. Sometimes I'm unable to boot in XP as I hear the drives spin down and then up again, etc which obviously prevents the files being loaded. And when I do get into XP, if I load Speedfan, my PC completely locks up and the screen turns pale green, requiring a hard reset. I've been able to run the RAM at these settings before without these problems, so I don't know what's happened.

One thing I did have to do to get the RAM to run at 1066Mhz at all was to manually change to Trfc to 195ns, otherwise it would always boot as 800Mhz.

I'm only using the HD3200 IGP, but I get graphical corruption, mostly in IE when scrolling as shown in this picture http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8273/corruptedie.gif but also in other random places where text will become smudged or I'll get breakthrough (part of one window's contents showing on another window even after the first one is minimised). This did perhaps happen more often when running the RAM at 1066Mhz, but I couldn't say for sure and it definitely still happens @800Mhz. I was using 512MB RAM for the IGP but I've currently dropped it to 128MB to see if that makes any difference. I've installed the latest Cat driver. I'm happy with all my temps and whilst this board doesn't have a GPU temp sensor as such, the Northbridge one is around 38-43c at the desktop when this problem occurs.

I thought it might be a RAM problem, but I've tested it with memtest v4 at 800Mhz, SPD, stock volts through to 1066Mhz, 5-5-5-15, 2.2v (+.4v) and apart from the fact that at the latter settings memtest showed CAS: 8-5-5-15, everything checked out fine. I obviously can't test the RAM that's allocated to the IGP, so the best I could do was drop that to 128MB and then memtest was able to test 3967MB.

Sorry if I've forgotten anything relevant. Hopefully someone can help me work out what's wrong so that I can get back to enjoying my PC, not fixing it :confused:
 

mpilchfamily

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What your exsperiencing is instability in the system from the RAM OC. Yes even though you have RAM specced to run at 1066 you have to OC the system to get it there. So you'll either need to keep playing with the settings till tyou get it stable or leave the system at stock speeds.
 

doveman007

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I don't think I need to OC the system to run the RAM @1066, just adjust the settings in the BIOS from 400Mhz to 533Mhz and change the Trfc to 195ns (which I understand is the correct setting for my RAM configuration but for some reason this board doesn't autoset it to that).

The other DRAM settings default to 5-7-7-24 but I can adjust them to 5-5-5-15 and I've run XP at both settings before without it locking up or having HD spinup problems.

It's been OK today running @800Mhz with 128MB Video RAM, so I'll try upping that to 256MB tomorrow and 512MB the next day to see what happens.

But the RAM is specced as 8500 (1066Mhz) 5-5-5-15 @2.2v and my board certainly supports 1066Mhz RAM, so why should I be having problems? Should I just exchange it for another brand?
 

mpilchfamily

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Makeing that adjustment is OCing the system. Sure you havn;t touched the FSB but you are pushing the motherboard to run the RAM faster then its set to run at its stock settings. The specs of the RAM is what its rated to handle not what the system will run it at when at stock settings. The reason to get faster RAM like this is to help you acheive better OCing. With all the trouble your having you may as well take that RAM back and get a slower set cause it seams your only going to be able to run your current configuration at a slower speed anyway.
 

doveman007

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OK, but this board is meant to support dual channel DDR2 1600, so why wouldn't DDR1066 work?

What I said before wasn't quite right. I don't need to adjust the Trfc to run @1066Mhz, only at 5-5-5-15. If I change the BIOS setting to 533Mhz, it runs @1066Mhz at 5-7-7-24 and stock volts OK.

I was getting the graphical corruption in IE at these settings, but so was I @800Mhz, and that was with 512MB VRAM, so I'll have to see if it's any better @1066Mhz with 128MB VRAM.
 

mpilchfamily

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The graphic corruption may be an issue with the GPU. In which case you may need to RMA the motherboard. But try updating the video drivers first.
 

doveman007

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I've already tried the latest Cat 9.11 and not only didn't it fix the problem but it broke my Media Portal setup. I'm using Cat 9.8 now.

Currently running @800Mhz with 256MB shared video memory and still getting the problem. I think it might be worse/happen more when I've got MediaPortal running on the other screen (TV) but I'm pretty sure it's been happening even when MP isn't running. I'll have to monitor it a bit more.

I don't think there's been any graphic corruption in games or when running benchmarks but I'd need to do them again to check.