Graph of Android VS iPhone sales US carriers

[Pliablemoose]

A good graph showing the potential growth of smartphones in the US and the sales of iOS VS Android on the US carriers.

Verizon's sales are interesting, especially considering they have offered an Android phone for slightly more than a year now.

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/21/will-apple-put-the-iphone-on-other-carriers/

 

[shortylickens]

Verizon had that huge ad campaign pushing the Droid down everyones throat. I like the phone but the sales records indicate advertising is still much more important to the success of a product than its features, price, or quality. Especially so for high tech gadgetry.

Also I wonder what Android sales would have been like with AT&T had they started with Android instead of iPhone. Higher? Lower? The same?
I also admit there is some curiosity as to what will happen with sales when the iPhone hits other services. Especially with people jailbreaking and unlocking to use it on Sprint.

 

[Phokus]

Verizon had that huge ad campaign pushing the Droid down everyones throat. I like the phone but the sales records indicate advertising is still much more important to the success of a product than its features, price, or quality. Especially so for high tech gadgetry.

Also I wonder what Android sales would have been like with AT&T had they started with Android instead of iPhone. Higher? Lower? The same?
I also admit there is some curiosity as to what will happen with sales when the iPhone hits other services. Especially with people jailbreaking and unlocking to use it on Sprint.

Yep, the original Nexus One sold horribly compared to the Motorola droid because there was hardly any advertising at all for it, even though it was a superior android phone to the droid.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Verizon had that huge ad campaign pushing the Droid down everyones throat. I like the phone but the sales records indicate advertising is still much more important to the success of a product than its features, price, or quality. Especially so for high tech gadgetry.

Also I wonder what Android sales would have been like with AT&T had they started with Android instead of iPhone. Higher? Lower? The same?
I also admit there is some curiosity as to what will happen with sales when the iPhone hits other services. Especially with people jailbreaking and unlocking to use it on Sprint.

I don't think Sprint will activate other carrier's phones on it's network.

You can do it through a carrier like Page Plus, or Metro PCS

 

[Oyeve]

The company I worked for was a large part of the Droid advertisement campaign and believe me, even with the massive success of the Droid there was hardly any profit.most of the moola just goes into marketing the next thing. Companies like tmo make a much better profit margin via mouth to mouth advertising and a solid product line. Even their vibrant. Even with the GPS issue and the lack of Frito it was/is a hit. Vzw is scrambling to stay ahead of other carriers and may very well succeed when the iPhone hits it but they will pour billions of bucks into advertising. This is why I live tmo. They have a fairly solid product with good pricing and great customer care.

 

[Pliablemoose]

The company I worked for was a large part of the Droid advertisement campaign and believe me, even with the massive success of the Droid there was hardly any profit.most of the moola just goes into marketing the next thing. Companies like tmo make a much better profit margin via mouth to mouth advertising and a solid product line. Even their vibrant. Even with the GPS issue and the lack of Frito it was/is a hit. Vzw is scrambling to stay ahead of other carriers and may very well succeed when the iPhone hits it but they will pour billions of bucks into advertising. This is why I live tmo. They have a fairly solid product with good pricing and great customer care.

Verizon got a hell of a lot of free advertising about the iPhone through the news organizations this month....

 

[Deeko]

Verizon got a hell of a lot of free advertising about the iPhone through the news organizations this month....

Yes, but I believe Apple charges the carriers more for the iPhone than Android phones, despite the fact that they sell for the same price to consumers. And I'm sure they'll still have some sort of a matching ad campaign (although not as big as their Droid one was).

 

[herkulease]

Yep, the original Nexus One sold horribly compared to the Motorola droid because there was hardly any advertising at all for it, even though it was a superior android phone to the droid.

Well besides advertising. Google for some stupid reason made it ONLINE only at the start.

I don't know about you but I do not buy things sight unseen. If I remember right it was also unsubsidized at the start.

Not many people are going to throw down 500 or so to buy a phone you couldn't even hold.

Plus it was on Tmobile.

 

[kaerflog]

I also admit there is some curiosity as to what will happen with sales when the iPhone hits other services. Especially with people jailbreaking and unlocking to use it on Sprint.

Not going to happen.
I still see so many people with the misconception that Verizon phones phones can be used for Sprint and vice version.
It doesn't work that way.

 

[Patranus]

Here is a very interesting graph in terms of the demand on Verizon

While these are not actual sales figures and we will have to wait to see who actually follows through with their purchases, there seems to be a significant pent up demand. Based on the OP's graph, people are either not buying a smart phone with Verizon or they are going to one of the boutique carriers.

 

[gsaldivar]

There are a lot of dumbphones out there...

 

[sciwizam]

Here is a very interesting graph in terms of the demand on Verizon

While these are not actual sales figures and we will have to wait to see who actually follows through with their purchases, there seems to be a significant pent up demand. Based on the OP's graph, people are either not buying a smart phone with Verizon or they are going to one of the boutique carriers.

Another way to look at is the strength of Verizon's Droid marketing campaign. Original Droid came out what November 2009? 1 year of sales and already half of Apple's sales on AT&T.

 

[akugami]

There are a lot of dumbphones out there...

And this is why I find all of the comments about how great Android is doing and how terrible Apple is doing. Apple has been growing it's share of the overall cell phone market if we include dumb phones even if it is only somewhat static in smart phone sales. That's because of the huge increase in smart phone shares.

Both iOS and Android are doing extremely well lately. There is plenty of room for both OS's. Motorola, Samsung, HTC, etc. have to be ecstatic that Android is on the scene and it has helped these OEM's increase sales. If any company has to worry, it's Nokia because Android sales have come at the expense of dumb phones of which Nokia is the major seller.

I think combined iPhone sales will increase overall with the release of an Verizon iPhone. I feel it won't be more than roughly 1 million increase. There will be customers who buy the iPhone on Verizon who wouldn't have bought it on AT&T's network but there will also be a lot of people moving to Verizon who used to be AT&T iPhone customers.

AT&T losing iPhone exclusivity actually helps Android in the long run. With no exclusive, I think AT&T will be marketing more Android phones rather than advertise the iPhone as much as they have previously. This should more than make up any lost Android sales on Verizon's network.

As for RIM, I really don't see how they will significantly increase their shares outside of their corporate stronghold. They will hold steady but they don't have the appeal that Apple does and both Apple and Android are making strides in being more corporate friendly. RIM isn't going anywhere soon but at the same time I just don't see how they'll be increasing their sales in any significant way.

HP's Webos...it's dead Jim.

Windows Phone. Microsoft currently isn't making any huge splash in terms of sales but while I haven't actually tried one, the video demos showing it are impressive. MS has shown a lot of creativity with their new mobile OS. One also can't underestimate MS's strengths in using their traditional Windows and Office strongholds to help push the Windows Phone. Much like how they have used multi-year losses to make a push in the console market. Granted they don't hope to lose billions (of which they still haven't made back in the console business) subsidizing the phone.

 

[shortylickens]

Well besides advertising. Google for some stupid reason made it ONLINE only at the start.

I don't know about you but I do not buy things sight unseen. If I remember right it was also unsubsidized at the start.

Not many people are going to throw down 500 or so to buy a phone you couldn't even hold.

Plus it was on Tmobile.

Were you talking about The Droid? Cuz I got that on opening day from the store. And I didnt preorder or anything.

 

[herkulease]

Were you talking about The Droid? Cuz I got that on opening day from the store. And I didnt preorder or anything.

no the Nexus one.

 

[Pliablemoose]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTbaUTRlbJQ

Holy crap...

 

[shortylickens]

no the Nexus one.

Oh yeah, OK.
Carry on.