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Granite Bay review at Anandtech up

Fkloster,
RE:"Well, it lookes like DDR is finally 'putin' the boots' to rambus. Very impressive indeed"

I think most people expected a little more than just being equal to Rambus. OTOH, this will probably be the last nail in the coffin of the Intel-Ranbus alliance.
Since dual DDR and dual Rambus appear to be pretty close (DDR might have a tiny edge over-all) AND neither has a great advantage over single DDR I don't expect system integrators to be rushing out to box machines with dual DDR for their mainstream computers either.
In the last analysis, it seems that Granite Bay is a nice tweak but falls far short of anything earth shattering. Really, it's best attribute is slamming the door on the need for RAMBUS.

Mac
 
think most people expected a little more than just being equal to Rambus.
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since dual DDR266 already maxes out the bandwidth that 533MHz FSB Pentium 4 processors can handle
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I don't know why people expected more than Rambus. Rambus was already at the maximum bandwidth at 1066. Hard to get more than 100%.

The benefit in GB is the o/cing potential, because DDR can easily handle higher fsb's.

 
Originally posted by: Macro2
Fkloster,
RE:"Well, it lookes like DDR is finally 'putin' the boots' to rambus. Very impressive indeed"

I think most people expected a little more than just being equal to Rambus. OTOH, this will probably be the last nail in the coffin of the Intel-Ranbus alliance.
Since dual DDR and dual Rambus appear to be pretty close (DDR might have a tiny edge over-all) AND neither has a great advantage over single DDR I don't expect system integrators to be rushing out to box machines with dual DDR for their mainstream computers either.
In the last analysis, it seems that Granite Bay is a nice tweak but falls far short of anything earth shattering. Really, it's best attribute is slamming the door on the need for RAMBUS.

Mac
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DCDDR overclocked reigns supreme. But, with the prices comparable to each other (motherboard/memory), there is no significant reason to get this if you already have a nicely fitted RDram system.
 
Originally posted by: Thor86
Originally posted by: Macro2
Fkloster,
RE:"Well, it lookes like DDR is finally 'putin' the boots' to rambus. Very impressive indeed"

I think most people expected a little more than just being equal to Rambus. OTOH, this will probably be the last nail in the coffin of the Intel-Ranbus alliance.
Since dual DDR and dual Rambus appear to be pretty close (DDR might have a tiny edge over-all) AND neither has a great advantage over single DDR I don't expect system integrators to be rushing out to box machines with dual DDR for their mainstream computers either.
In the last analysis, it seems that Granite Bay is a nice tweak but falls far short of anything earth shattering. Really, it's best attribute is slamming the door on the need for RAMBUS.

Mac
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DCDDR overclocked reigns supreme. But, with the prices comparable to each other (motherboard/memory), there is no significant reason to get this if you already have a nicely fitted RDram system.
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yep

glad i've been running a northwood + rambus for almost a year now 😀
 
Those overclocked numbers are UNBELIEVABLE!
That's right, you heard me.

Where's the Asus GB overclocked numbers??????

Oh yeah, where's the $300 price tag people were claiming?

$190 initially and expected $140 in a couple of months. I'll take it.

 
RE:"$190 initially and expected $140 in a couple of months. I'll take it."

If I was buying a new P4 and had to choose between Rambus and GRanite Bay I'd take granite bay any time. This is why Rambus is now more dead than ever.


For those who have a P4 and Rambus, no need to upgrade to just get Granite Bay. Maybe when you upgrade your whole system....Granite Bay.

RE:"DCDDR overclocked reigns supreme. But, with the prices comparable to each other (motherboard/memory), there is no significant reason to get this if you already have a nicely fitted RDram system"

Overclockers...Yeah Granite Bay DDR does that better. Maybe you've been OC'ing single channel DDR?
So again, the next time you upgrade you'll likely not go for Rambus....
Again Rambus=loser in this.

As for the prices...WAY too early to make a comparison unless it's just comparing the prices of Rambus and DDR. We know who wins that.
The price of Granite Bay mobos will drop. How far depends on the cost of the chipsets. All else equal and they should be the same so the memory+mobo prices should favor dual DDR. Even more so if Intel decides to put rambus out of it's misery and sell granite bay for less that i850 chipsets.
 
I don't see Asus's Granite bay overclocked. Gigabyte GA-8INXP seems to be most impressive in the review. I didn't read the whole article...does Gigabyte GA-8INXP have apg/pci lock?
 
*ahem* to quote myself from yesterday, before the review was up:
Originally posted by: icecool83

Well, PC1066 and DC PC2100 both (in theory) saturate the P4's 533 MHz bus. We should expect that there will be very little difference in performance between DC-DDR and PC1066. The main differences being in efficiency and latency (not so much of an issue with PC1066 I hear). More importantly, however, getting large amounts of quality PC2100 is sure to be cheaper than the equivalent amount of PC1066. Furthermore, overclocking DDR RAM should be easier since there are memory modules out that can handle a 50% OC (PC3200) while still matching the P4's FSB. All things considered, it looks like GB is a great chipset for enthusiasts 🙂
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it didn't look too impressive
just a weaker version of the nforce2 for a P4 platform by Intel
and it's a poor overclocker too
heck it won't support ddr400 or anything..

Nice try Intel

although the hyper threading move was nice in there chips recently reveiwed



ps. i am not a violent person, i love you all
 
it didn't look too impressive
just a weaker version of the nforce2 for a P4 platform by Intel
and it's a poor overclocker too
heck it won't support ddr400 or anything..
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Please enlighten us on what's not impressive.
And how exactely is it a weaker version of the nforce2?
And how is it a poor overclocker?
And why does it need to support ddr400 again?
 
Originally posted by: Soulkeeper
it didn't look too impressive
just a weaker version of the nforce2 for a P4 platform by Intel
and it's a poor overclocker too
heck it won't support ddr400 or anything..

Nice try Intel

although the hyper threading move was nice in there chips recently reveiwed



ps. i am not a violent person, i love you all
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What a crappy post... 😛
 
Did anyone see a commercial box announcement using Granite Bay with 3.06 P4 - Dell only has it up with Xeon Workstations at 2.8?
 
Anyone has comments on Precision Worksattion 450.
Dell P4 2.53 Ghz came out to 1,357.
With same features +, PWS450 is 2200.
I need advice on which one to choose?
 
Originally posted by: Macro2

For those who have a P4 and Rambus, no need to upgrade to just get Granite Bay. Maybe when you upgrade your whole system....Granite Bay.
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The only reason why I would get GB chipset and DDR ram would be because of the pci/agp locking capability, as I never run them out of spec. And being the only I850 motherboard that provides this is the Abit Th7II which is a hit and miss with the memory clock generators that allow for good Rambus overclocking. I wish Asus would come out with a P4T-533C bios that locks this down, then I would be in overclock nirvana!
 
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