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Grad. School: public vs. private, shorter vs. longer, expensive vs. inexpensive:

jread

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I'm not going to make a drawn out post... just going to make a summary that lays it out. I'm so ****** sick of agonizing over this:

- Two options for grad. school if I decide to go the computer route (interests are Database Admin., Systems Analyst and possibly some Programming... not so much in Network or Desktop Support):

1. Private school, smaller, not widely known outside of the state, MS in Computer Information Systems, 50/50 focus on technology and IT management, excellent learning environment, will take 2-calendar years to complete, cost will be roughly $24,000 for the entire degree.

2. Public school, larger, somewhat known outside of the state, MS is Computer Science, 100% focus on hardcore CS, will take 2.5 or so years of undergrad courses (40 hours of undergrad CS, calculus, etc.) to qualify for acceptance into the program, then another 2 years for the masters (4.5 years total), cost will be roughly $8,000 for the entire degree.

Other, more minor factors: private school is ranked twice as high in masters programs as the public school (U.S. News rankings). Public school is in another city 30 miles away, while the private school is in the same city I live in. I work fulltime and will do all my courses in the evenings/weekends.

The million dollar question: 2 years of school for a CIS degree that will put me 24k in student loan debt, or 4.5 years of school for a CS degree that will put me 8k in student loan debt. Is the CS degree worth more or is the extra 2.5 years in the field worth more?

All input is appreciated. I'll be loading up my shotgun in the meantime.

 
Originally posted by: Tick
What's your Bachelors in?

Public Administration. I hate it but I'm almost done. I work for local government so it's somewhat applicable at a management level, but I have no desire to be a politician or public director of any kind.
 
I think a CS degree is usually considered more powerful, however I think what really matters is if you want a CS degree or a CIS degree, considering they aren't the same thing.
 
Always go to a public university over a private unless the private university can hook you up with a job... It's not worth the extra money, plus you will have more options to schedule your classes around a job while you're in. Private schools don't have as many night classes, etc...
 
If the private university isn't even well known, it doesn't matter how good their program is. The public school will be almost as good, and your future employers will actually know about it, and want to hire you. Plus, it's cheaper. Go public.
 
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
I've never heard anything about St. Edwards.

About the degree program or about the school? If you've never heard about the school and you live in Austin, then that's just incredible, lol.
 
Originally posted by: jread
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
I've never heard anything about St. Edwards.

About the degree program or about the school? If you've never heard about the school and you live in Austin, then that's just incredible, lol.

Why not 2 years at a public school for your masters? And if you need to go to undergrad to get into CS, what makes you think you dont have to for CIS? Theyre very, very similar...
 
And let me add to that by saying that 2 years of undergrad CS with no filler, straight CS/Math, that you HAVE to do extremely well in in order to get to grad, on the nights and weekends, while you have to work full time during the day, is quite an incredible undertaking, to put it lightly.
 
Originally posted by: jread
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
I've never heard anything about St. Edwards.

About the degree program or about the school? If you've never heard about the school and you live in Austin, then that's just incredible, lol.

I've heard of it 😀 but then again I've been in Austin too long...

My dad got his masters in CS at SWT (aka Texas State) back in '91 as an international student...it took him 3 semesters, but he had a bachelors in CS already back in the 70's. He ended up working for IBM eventually, but he was doing some type of testing for their unix products.

During an internship at IBM in college, the mentor that was overlooking my work got his undergrad in CS at St Edwards. I hear that he's been promoted to a team lead now...so I guess a degree from there wouldn't be bad either. I can't tell you what the CIS degree will bring you though...
 
Originally posted by: BD2003
And let me add to that by saying that 2 years of undergrad CS with no filler, straight CS/Math, that you HAVE to do extremely well in in order to get to grad, on the nights and weekends, while you have to work full time during the day, is quite an incredible undertaking, to put it lightly.

Yes, it is not going to be fun 🙁

mitaiwan82, it is great to hear good things about both programs being successful! I'm going to talk with the director of the program a little more (he has a BS in CS, MS in CS, MS in IT and Ph.D. in CS). I'm sure that he will be able to point me in the right direction 😀
 
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: jread
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
I've never heard anything about St. Edwards.

About the degree program or about the school? If you've never heard about the school and you live in Austin, then that's just incredible, lol.

Why not 2 years at a public school for your masters? And if you need to go to undergrad to get into CS, what makes you think you dont have to for CIS? Theyre very, very similar...

No, they are not.

CS deals very heavily with the theoretical and mathematical aspects of techonology, and more specifically, the software side of techonology.

MIS/CIS deals much more with business and practical application of the techonology in a working environment.

That being said, the theory and math courses are probably why he has to go back and complete all the undergrad courses, versus going right into school for the Masters in CIS.
 
For MS, it doesnt matter. For ph.D, school name/advisor name means a whole lot.

Either way, you shouldn't be paying if you are willing to RA/TA and carried decent grades during your B.S.
 
Originally posted by: BigJ
That being said, the theory and math courses are probably why he has to go back and complete all the undergrad courses, versus going right into school for the Masters in CIS.

You are exactly right! All I have to do for the CIS degree is take a VB.net course and a math course (there would be more but I've taken a lot of undergraduate CIS classes already).


Originally posted by: Tiamat
Either way, you shouldn't be paying if you are willing to RA/TA and carried decent grades during your B.S.

Won't be possible to RA/TA. I work fulltime and have a mortgage, car note, etc. No living on campus for me. I'll be going to night school for the entire thing (like I am now for my undergrad degree).
 
4.5 years is a long time for a Masters. Will they at least give you a B.S. after you finish the undergrad portion?

Just noticed that you said you're working and going to school at the same time. I couldn't take 4.5 years of that. I did it for 2 years and it was insane.
 
Originally posted by: AgentEL
4.5 years is a long time for a Masters. Will they at least give you a B.S. after you finish the undergrad portion?

Just noticed that you said you're working and going to school at the same time. I couldn't take 4.5 years of that. I did it for 2 years and it was insane.

I will get a "Certificate in Computer Science" after the undergrad portion: http://www.cs.txstate.edu/Certificate.shtml

Also, I agree that working fulltime and going to school is not easy. I've averaged about 9 hours (3 courses) per semester so far and it's hard to keep from being burned out. I've kept a 4.0 so far, though, and hope to maintain it if I can.
 
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