GPU Upgrade on OLD PC

[mihalyk2000]

I have AMD Athlon 6000+,an old HP 0a64h mobo, 4 gb ram, latest windows 10, and a burned AMD HD 6670 1GDDR5... I thinked to buy an AMD HD 7770 or 7790 for playing medium games. While playing, nothing is working in the backround, i use Razer Cortex + cpu overclock. Would the cpu bottleneck the gpu, or what gpu i should buy? I want AMD GPU ( i chosed those gpus for dx12, and i want a gpu in the future whit dx12) I don't want a beast GPU now, cuz after 2-3 years I will buy the latest CPU GPU etc...
Max price 50 eu, used is good too... Or if you know better gpu for that price (even if it bottleneck it, but on the same price it will be good)

 

[Red Hawk]

The Athlon 6000+ is a dual core, correct? I would only get a Radeon HD 7750 (aka the R7-250), max. Don't even bother with anything higher, like a 7770, 260, etc. Your CPU won't be able to keep up.

 

[Arachnotronic]

I have AMD Athlon 6000+,an old HP 0a64h mobo, 4 gb ram, latest windows 10, and a burned AMD HD 6670 1GDDR5... I thinked to buy an AMD HD 7770 or 7790 for playing medium games. While playing, nothing is working in the backround, i use Razer Cortex + cpu overclock. Would the cpu bottleneck the gpu, or what gpu i should buy? I want AMD GPU ( i chosed those gpus for dx12, and i want a gpu in the future whit dx12) I don't want a beast GPU now, cuz after 2-3 years I will buy the latest CPU GPU etc...
Max price 50 eu, used is good too... Or if you know better gpu for that price (even if it bottleneck it, but on the same price it will be good)

What country will you be buying from? What online retailer will you be using?

Tell us that so we can help you pick something.

 

[mihalyk2000]

The Athlon 6000+ is a dual core, correct? I would only get a Radeon HD 7750 (aka the R7-250), max. Don't even bother with anything higher, like a 7770, 260, etc. Your CPU won't be able to keep up.

Yes, it is dual core, but i'm using all his performance, and i get similar performance to a 3 core normal user. Btw, the 7770 is cheaper than the 7750 :d

What country will you be buying from? What online retailer will you be using?

Tell us that so we can help you pick something.

Romania, i already found those gpus, whit 44 eu (the 7770) My question would be that if the cpu can handle it properly... Or if is another gpu, lower price but higher performance ( i want dx12 card, but if an dx11 card is more powerfull, i would think about that)

 

[Arachnotronic]

Romania, i already found those gpus, whit 44 eu (the 7770) My question would be that if the cpu can handle it properly... Or if is another gpu, lower price but higher performance ( i want dx12 card, but if an dx11 card is more powerfull, i would think about that)

Just get the 7700. If the 6670 you were using was good enough for your needs, the 7770 should be just fine.

 

[SlickR12345]

Most newer games require at least 6gb in order to just start them, otherwise they won't even start, let alone play. So while you are looking at a GPU upgrade, that 4gb of slow DDR2 ram is not going to be enough to handle any game past year 2014. I suggest you look into a used r5 260, they go around for 50 euros and if you can find cheap 4gb of ram to get it, though I really doubt there is cheap ddr2 ram anymore!

 

[whm1974]

You may want to consider building a new computer.

 

[SPBHM]

this CPU is slower than lots of Core 2 Duos for gaming, you wont get much with it even with a really fast VGA...
if you can get a cheap 7770 OK, but even that deserves a faster CPU,

 

[2is]

this CPU is slower than lots of Core 2 Duos for gaming, you wont get much with it even with a really fast VGA...
if you can get a cheap 7770 OK, but even that deserves a faster CPU,

And that's putting it mildly. It's slower then pretty much all Core 2 Duo's, and that's before we even factor in over clocking where the Core 2's were nowhere near their ceiling and the X2's were, ESPECIALLY the 6000+

Unless you get someone's hand me down for free, I wouldn't be spending any sorts of money on that machine.

 

[happy medium]

Just get the 7700. If the 6670 you were using was good enough for your needs, the 7770 should be just fine.

I agree.

 

[mihalyk2000]

The DDR2 even if it's theoretically slow, it' enough to the new games. CPU even if it's slow, i can more then fully utilizate it.... Lowest gpu i'l buy will be the 7770 but maybe i'l buy ( if noone buy it before me) an 7850 dual x for 44 eu... I don't wanna buy low i5 now, instead I wait Zen, Vega, Navi and after have everything i want...

 

[2is]

4GB of DDR2 isn't enough for new games

 

[Arachnotronic]

The DDR2 even if it's theoretically slow, it' enough to the new games. CPU even if it's slow, i can more then fully utilizate it.... Lowest gpu i'l buy will be the 7770 but maybe i'l buy ( if noone buy it before me) an 7850 dual x for 44 eu... I don't wanna buy low i5 now, instead I wait Zen, Vega, Navi and after have everything i want...

Serious question. Are you in a financial position now to build a new system? If so, I would HIGHLY recommend just building now instead of waiting for "Zen, Vega, Navi and after" -- there's ALWAYS something better coming and at some point it's just time to buy.

With your current system, that "time to buy" is here. It was here probably half-a-decade ago.

A Core i5 6600K with a decent cooler, Radeon RX 480, and a nice new Z170 board + 16GB of DDR4 would be a HUGE deal for you. The gains that come from waiting just won't be much.

Don't invest in your old machine if you can afford to build new. It's just throwing money away.

 

[mihalyk2000]

I'm in a good financial position, but I really want to wait AT least 2 years, when current pc will be totally useless, and new games will apear (source 2 games, new gta etc) then I will buy what will be new then (i will not say that then i will wait for another etc)... Current I5 will be slow in some years, abd whitout cpu i don't have reason to buy new gpu... This is what i think

 

[2is]

Serious question. Are you in a financial position now to build a new system? If so, I would HIGHLY recommend just building now instead of waiting for "Zen, Vega, Navi and after" -- there's ALWAYS something better coming and at some point it's just time to buy.

With your current system, that "time to buy" is here. It was here probably half-a-decade ago.

A Core i5 6600K with a decent cooler, Radeon RX 480, and a nice new Z170 board + 16GB of DDR4 would be a HUGE deal for you. The gains that come from waiting just won't be much.

Don't invest in your old machine if you can afford to build new. It's just throwing money away.

Agreed. Only reason not to upgrade NOW is if you simply don't have the means. X2's haven't been viable gaming processors for years. Not good enough for new games, not good enough for not so new games either. Heck, even web browsing can be painful on an X2 with some sites.

 

[Arachnotronic]

I'm in a good financial position, but I really want to wait AT least 2 years, when current pc will be totally useless, and new games will apear (source 2 games, new gta etc) then I will buy what will be new then (i will not say that then i will wait for another etc)... Current I5 will be slow in some years, abd whitout cpu i don't have reason to buy new gpu... This is what i think

I think you should listen to us. Your current PC is already basically useless, there are cell phones that are much faster. If you buy something modern today, it will last you a long time. It's your money, your gaming experience, and your time, but really, a current gen i5 + new GPU (RX 480 or GTX 1060; you seem to prefer AMD, so go with an RX 480) will be a HUGE step up.

You could also spring for an i7 6700K if you are worried about longevity. I don't think the 6700K will be anything close to resembling "slow" for another five years.

Also, ALL CPUs become "slow in some years" -- that's just a fact. If you sit around waiting because you are worried that what you buy now will eventually be slow, you will never buy a new PC.

 

[mihalyk2000]

I know, even my phone is 8 core 64 bit, but... Uhhh.... Il still stay whit my ideea, Idk why I believe that it will be better/profitable for waiting 2 years, cuz i will not die whit this pc, even if you don't believe, it's still run esport games at good fps, and high end games smootly (don't talk about graphics:d specially whit old gpu) Thanks everyone for help!

 

[2is]

I don't see how anyone considering an AMD processor can be worried about the longevity of an i5. When was the last time an AMD processor was competitive with an i5 in gaming?

And no, you're not running "high end games" smoothly. It's not a matter of believing you. What you're claiming is quite simply impossible. You don't even meet the minimum spec of any AAA game released within the last several years.

 

[Red Hawk]

I'm in a good financial position, but I really want to wait AT least 2 years, when current pc will be totally useless, and new games will apear (source 2 games, new gta etc) then I will buy what will be new then (i will not say that then i will wait for another etc)... Current I5 will be slow in some years, abd whitout cpu i don't have reason to buy new gpu... This is what i think

Your PC is arguably useless for current PC games now. A GPU upgrade isn't going to do much at all to fix that.

 

[mihalyk2000]

Your PC is arguably useless for current PC games now. A GPU upgrade isn't going to do much at all to fix that.

Right, my bad, not exactly new high end games(like titsnfall 2), but some... New... Like gta v, bf4, cod (pes owerwatch etc)

I know that in paper this pc is slow af, but it's a little but better than how you believe... I want a big update too, but whit AMD having its "new" cpu already 3 year old... The difference is big, i will not die waiting for it it will worth..

Thanks again for everyone for contributing at it! ( i stick with 7770, mayve 7850)

 

[Red Hawk]

gta v

Nope, not on that CPU.

bf4

Bwahahaha. The Battlefield games are notoriously CPU heavy, bottlenecking much newer and faster CPUs than what you have. I'd be impressed if you could get Battlefield Bad Company 2 running smoothly on that CPU...

cod

Maybe Modern Warfare. The original, not the remaster. And it gets worse if you go with an AMD card, recent COD games are known to run especially slow on AMD cards paired with dual cores, even fast ones

(pes owerwatch etc)

Overwatch is a no-go also. When it comes to multiplayer, you need good CPU performance to be competitive. With a slow CPU the game is going to be laggy af and the only point to logging on will be to get shot dead over. And over. And over.

Sorry if this sounds harsh, but this is the reality. Your CPU is going to be useless at modern games.

I know that in paper this pc is slow af, but it's a little but better than how you believe... I want a big update too, but whit AMD having its "new" cpu already 3 year old... The difference is big, i will not die waiting for it it will worth..

The one reason I can see for you waiting to upgrade is if you want to wait for AMD's next gen Zen CPUs to come out. The moment it comes out, you have no excuse not to buy it.

Thanks again for everyone for contributing at it! ( i stick with 7770, mayve 7850)

A 7850 will be a waste of money. You're not going to see any improvement with it over a 7770, because of your CPU. If you're not upgrading your CPU now, don't bother going higher than a 7770.

 

[whm1974]

I'm in a good financial position, but I really want to wait AT least 2 years, when current pc will be totally useless, and new games will apear (source 2 games, new gta etc) then I will buy what will be new then (i will not say that then i will wait for another etc)... Current I5 will be slow in some years, abd whitout cpu i don't have reason to buy new gpu... This is what i think

What is your budget for a new system including a new display and KBM?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Your current PC is already basically useless

Agreed.

 

[2is]

You're not running BF4 smoothly with an X2. No way no how. BF2, sure but that's where the smooth relationship ends in the BF series.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Nope, not on that CPU.



Bwahahaha. The Battlefield games are notoriously CPU heavy, bottlenecking much newer and faster CPUs than what you have. I'd be impressed if you could get Battlefield Bad Company 2 running smoothly on that CPU...



Maybe Modern Warfare. The original, not the remaster. And it gets worse if you go with an AMD card, recent COD games are known to run especially slow on AMD cards paired with dual cores, even fast ones



Overwatch is a no-go also. When it comes to multiplayer, you need good CPU performance to be competitive. With a slow CPU the game is going to be laggy af and the only point to logging on will be to get shot dead over. And over. And over.

Sorry if this sounds harsh, but this is the reality. Your CPU is going to be useless at modern games.



The one reason I can see for you waiting to upgrade is if you want to wait for AMD's next gen Zen CPUs to come out. The moment it comes out, you have no excuse not to buy it.



A 7850 will be a waste of money. You're not going to see any improvement with it over a 7770, because of your CPU. If you're not upgrading your CPU now, don't bother going higher than a 7770.

I predict that the OP will be back asking for help on picking out a new system once the Radeon 7770 + Athlon X2 6000+ prove inadequate for the games he wants to play.