GPU temps

[dbuttcheek69]

whats a common/safe range for GPU temps?

 

[SynthDude2001]

Depends on what card you're talking about.

 

[dbuttcheek69]

for an x800 se

 

[dbuttcheek69]

bumpity bump

 

[superpandapower]

Well, my x800 runs 40C idle and 62C load and that seems to be in line with most of the x800s I've read about on these boards.

 

[orangat]

No one seemed know in my previous threads on GPU operating temperatures (in video and highly technical forums).

There is no scientific basis that 70 or 80C is alright for gpu temps. Its just a fallacy that became a 'fact' after being repeated ad nauseam.

My card manufacturer doesn't know (or wouldn't give(?)) the expected operating lifespan of my 6800GT after I emailed them. They said Nvidia specs a maximum of 120C before throttling down.

 

[orangat]

My advice is not to expect a 'normal' or long operating life in present generation cards which have an elevated operating temps. Eg. 6800 can reach 80+C in synthetic burn-in programs.

 

[hi5]

I remember I mailed leadtek sometime back regarding Ti 4200 threshold temperature and thay stated 102 deg C.

For X800 Pro, i got i from gigabyte and was a bit shaky after seeing it going to almost 76 deg C.

I was even more shocked when i touched the copper plate and the naked rams, they were boiling hot. I couldn't touch it for more than a few seconds.

I had to use a new Cooler and i did and now its under 60 deg C.

The Threshold temperature for ATI X800 Cards should be 100 deg C.

Another funny thing is that other ppl got lower temperature reading than me.

I was unlucky with this and even Gigabyte emailed me saying that ur just 1 of those who got unlucky.

Anyway, keep them down under 70 and its ok. Sadly the thermal diodes have problems sometimes, moreover, there arent thermal diodes placed on the rams for Ram temperature.

If ur that concerned, why dont u buy a new Cooler

 

[imverygifted]

i try to keep my temps under 80 when full load

 

[sparkyclarky]

Originally posted by: orangat
My advice is not to expect a 'normal' or long operating life in present generation cards which have an elevated operating temps. Eg. 6800 can reach 80+C in synthetic burn-in programs.

If NV specs the cards to throttle down at 120, any temp under 90 will give a perfectly acceptable operating life. What the hell defines a normal operating life anyways? That would vary from manufacturer to manufacturer and from component to component much more than the individual chipset being used would matter. After 5 years, today's top end cards will be worth no more than $25 anyways....

 

[orangat]

Originally posted by: sparkyclarky

Originally posted by: orangat
My advice is not to expect a 'normal' or long operating life in present generation cards which have an elevated operating temps. Eg. 6800 can reach 80+C in synthetic burn-in programs.

If NV specs the cards to throttle down at 120, any temp under 90 will give a perfectly acceptable operating life. What the hell defines a normal operating life anyways? That would vary from manufacturer to manufacturer and from component to component much more than the individual chipset being used would matter. After 5 years, today's top end cards will be worth no more than $25 anyways....

An acceptable lifespan would be in the 10year timeframe. CPUs should last that long at least with stock cooling un-oc'd.

After 5 yrs, I would expect my hand-me-down/odd-and-ends PC to work fine. On the books, it would be worth >$25 but to me and the majority of consumers, its worth more than that since a new card would probably cost more plus the time and hassle to replace it.

This is an issue not unlike the blown capacitor fiasco. No one likes to know that their motherboard or graphics card is going to conk out in 2-5 years because of a 'normal' operating environment.

Edit - Bottom line is to keep GPU temps in line with normal CPU guidelines if you want your gfx chip to last as long.

 

[dbuttcheek69]

well accorfing to ATItool im at around 44 idle, with my fan at 100%.

will a fan motor last significantly longer the slower it spins?

 

[sparkyclarky]

Originally posted by: orangat

Originally posted by: sparkyclarky

Originally posted by: orangat
My advice is not to expect a 'normal' or long operating life in present generation cards which have an elevated operating temps. Eg. 6800 can reach 80+C in synthetic burn-in programs.

If NV specs the cards to throttle down at 120, any temp under 90 will give a perfectly acceptable operating life. What the hell defines a normal operating life anyways? That would vary from manufacturer to manufacturer and from component to component much more than the individual chipset being used would matter. After 5 years, today's top end cards will be worth no more than $25 anyways....

An acceptable lifespan would be in the 10year timeframe. CPUs should last that long at least with stock cooling un-oc'd.

After 5 yrs, I would expect my hand-me-down/odd-and-ends PC to work fine. On the books, it would be worth >$25 but to me and the majority of consumers, its worth more than that since a new card would probably cost more plus the time and hassle to replace it.

This is an issue not unlike the blown capacitor fiasco. No one likes to know that their motherboard or graphics card is going to conk out in 2-5 years because of a 'normal' operating environment.

Edit - Bottom line is to keep GPU temps in line with normal CPU guidelines if you want your gfx chip to last as long.

But the difference is that these cards are almost certainly not going to die within 2-5 years. I just stated 5 years as a figure where the hardware is worth pretty much nothing anymore. Overclocking will certainly shorten the cards lifespan, but I honestly don't think that the component life will be so short that it will matter. Yes, it would be nice to have a PC that would last 20 years without component failures. However, thanks to semiconductor progress, chip densities are skyrocketing while heat removing solutions are fairly anemic. So, until some sort of drastic change occurs, the current situation is most likely bound to get worse, not better. I don't think it's worth fussing over a dead gfx card in 5 years anyways. The one computer component that does need longetivity is storage mediums. As far as comparing the GPU temp to a CPU temp, it simply is incorrect. CPUs have in almost all cases much fewer transistors then the average modern GPU. Barring any drastic difference in die size, CPUs will tend to run cooler. Not to mention the monster blocks of copper that sit on top of many CPUs nowadays, vs. the comparitively light cooling that can be supported thanks to the crappy physics of hanging a card off of an AGP or PCI-E slot. GPUs pretty much will always be warmer than their CPU counterparts.

Sorry for the stream of consciousness

 

[sparkyclarky]

Originally posted by: dbuttcheek69
well accorfing to ATItool im at around 44 idle, with my fan at 100%.

will a fan motor last significantly longer the slower it spins?

Not as far as I know. I'm sure issues such as quality of bearings and dust buildup play much more into fan life.

 

[sxr7171]

The way I see it, if I can get 3 years on a graphics card I'll be happy.